Miami's Non-Conference schedule

[steel_curtain]

-A number of posters want Pitt to be Non-Conference Powerhouse U. The same posters are claiming Miami is the only team worth a dam in the Coastal. And Miami is great again.

Miami's non conference this year

Bethune Cookman
Arkansas State
Toledo
Notre Dame

Miami's non conference schedule last year

Florida ATM
Florida Atlantic
App State
Notre Dame

Miami's non conference 2 years ago

Bethune Cookman
FAU
Nebraska
Cincinatti

Miami's non conference 3 years ago

Florida A&M
Arkansas State
Cincinatti
Nebraska

Miami's non conference next year

LSU
Savannah State
Toledo
Central Michigan


-All hail Miami. All hail. I dont see Miami scheduling Penn State, Notre Dame, Oklahoma State, Iowa, and a boatload of other good Power 5 Teams and Good Midmajor teams competing for Conference Titles and a Playoff.

-I see non-conference garbage U. All Hail Miami, They are Great Again.

-Then there is Pitt. Penn State, Notre Dame, Central Florida, 31-5 record this year and 3 preseason Top 15 teams next year. Way to go Barnes. Way to go 1% of Pitt fanbase that wants to be non-conference Elite scheduling U.

-Nice job Miami. Ranked in the Top 10 in the current polls.

-Following the Miami strategy, Pitt may have won 10 games in 2015, 9 games in 2016, and 7 games this year. Nope. 8 wins, 8 wins, 5 wins. Thanks Barnes and 1% of Pitt fanbase for zero poll rankings for Pitt and zero hype. Thanks non-conference Power Program Pitt. Thanks for letting me see Pitt go down 49-7 in the 2nd quarter against Ok. State. Thanks Barnes.

 

[paulbl99]

I like The U

 

[steel_curtain]

I like The U

-I would like to be ranked in the Polls before I and the rest of the posters on this board are 6 feet in the ground.

-Miami on how to rebuild a program, draw attention, and bring in better talent- Wins, piling up wins.

 

[jtownknowitall]

Eeeek! Central Florida! Eeeeek! Notre Dame! Eeeeek!

I sure hope the team isn’t As afraid as its fans.

 

[3genpanther]

Completely agree. Unless / until most other schools schedule 2-3 solid schools out of conference, why the hell should we? Should be 1 marquee game, 1 mid tier G5 game, 1 lower Div 1 school, and an FCS school. Period.

 

[phxpanther]

-A number of posters want Pitt to be Non-Conference Powerhouse U. The same posters are claiming Miami is the only team worth a dam in the Coastal. And Miami is great again.

Miami's non conference this year

Bethune Cookman
Arkansas State
Toledo
Notre Dame

Miami's non conference schedule last year

Florida ATM
Florida Atlantic
App State
Notre Dame

Miami's non conference 2 years ago

Bethune Cookman
FAU
Nebraska
Cincinatti

Miami's non conference 3 years ago

Florida A&M
Arkansas State
Cincinatti
Nebraska

Miami's non conference next year

LSU
Savannah State
Toledo
Central Michigan


-All hail Miami. All hail. I dont see Miami scheduling Penn State, Notre Dame, Oklahoma State, Iowa, and a boatload of other good Power 5 Teams and Good Midmajor teams competing for Conference Titles and a Playoff.

-I see non-conference garbage U. All Hail Miami, They are Great Again.

-Then there is Pitt. Penn State, Notre Dame, Central Florida, 31-5 record this year and 3 preseason Top 15 teams next year. Way to go Barnes. Way to go 1% of Pitt fanbase that wants to be non-conference Elite scheduling U.

-Nice job Miami. Ranked in the Top 10 in the current polls.

-Following the Miami strategy, Pitt may have won 10 games in 2015, 9 games in 2016, and 7 games this year. Nope. 8 wins, 8 wins, 5 wins. Thanks Barnes and 1% of Pitt fanbase for zero poll rankings for Pitt and zero hype. Thanks non-conference Power Program Pitt. Thanks for letting me see Pitt go down 49-7 in the 2nd quarter against Ok. State. Thanks Barnes.

How would Pitt have won 10 games in 2015 following g Miami's non conference philosophy, which is one big time opponent, and three cupcakes. Take away ND or Iowa that year and we still only win 9.

And who cares, so we go 9-4 instead of 8-5, great, really not much difference

 

[jtownknowitall]

I assume had Pitt not played Oklahoma State (not Ohio State or Oklahoma but Oklahoma State) they would have beaten Syracuse or North Carolina?

 

[joeydavid]

You can change Miami to any number of other schools and make the same point. Pitt gets ridiculed for going 5-7 when they are likely better than most of the 6-6/7-5 teams playing in bowls.

-A number of posters want Pitt to be Non-Conference Powerhouse U. The same posters are claiming Miami is the only team worth a dam in the Coastal. And Miami is great again.

Miami's non conference this year

Bethune Cookman
Arkansas State
Toledo
Notre Dame

Miami's non conference schedule last year

Florida ATM
Florida Atlantic
App State
Notre Dame

Miami's non conference 2 years ago

Bethune Cookman
FAU
Nebraska
Cincinatti

Miami's non conference 3 years ago

Florida A&M
Arkansas State
Cincinatti
Nebraska

Miami's non conference next year

LSU
Savannah State
Toledo
Central Michigan


-All hail Miami. All hail. I dont see Miami scheduling Penn State, Notre Dame, Oklahoma State, Iowa, and a boatload of other good Power 5 Teams and Good Midmajor teams competing for Conference Titles and a Playoff.

-I see non-conference garbage U. All Hail Miami, They are Great Again.

-Then there is Pitt. Penn State, Notre Dame, Central Florida, 31-5 record this year and 3 preseason Top 15 teams next year. Way to go Barnes. Way to go 1% of Pitt fanbase that wants to be non-conference Elite scheduling U.

-Nice job Miami. Ranked in the Top 10 in the current polls.

-Following the Miami strategy, Pitt may have won 10 games in 2015, 9 games in 2016, and 7 games this year. Nope. 8 wins, 8 wins, 5 wins. Thanks Barnes and 1% of Pitt fanbase for zero poll rankings for Pitt and zero hype. Thanks non-conference Power Program Pitt. Thanks for letting me see Pitt go down 49-7 in the 2nd quarter against Ok. State. Thanks Barnes.

 

[phxpanther]

And let's not forget Miami's permanent cross over opponent is FSU, ours is SU

 

[MarshallGoldberg]

This guy and Sean Miller fan should get their own sub-board to talk about tarping our non-conference schedule.

Btw do you know something that doesn't impact our ability to win the ACC, the only realistic goal for Pitt? Our non conference record.

 

[jtownknowitall]

You can complain about your tough nonconference schedule when it is the difference between 12-0 and 11-1, not 5-7 and 6-6

 

[steel_curtain]

This guy and Sean Miller fan should get their own sub-board to talk about tarping our non-conference schedule.

Btw do you know something that doesn't impact our ability to win the ACC, the only realistic goal for Pitt? Our non conference record.

-It certainly impacts it. You know how much time our staff spends prepping for Penn State and Oklahoma State instead of prepping and spending more time for a conference game. We could schedule Prairie View and have the score 35-0 at halftime, rest the starters, and not even prep to win the game and focus on the conference schedule. No, lets go all out prepping for Penn State and Oklahoma State, 2 games that do nothing for us, and are annual auto losses. And the same time wasting valuable time trying to beat those teams when more time could be spent trying to beat conference teams.

 

[sappycrease]

We schedule traditional powerhouses to put butts in the seats. Simple as that. If we didn’t have 20k at a game vs Youngstown State, we wouldn’t have to schedule Penn State the following week.

 

[steel_curtain]

We schedule traditional powerhouses to put butts in the seats. Simple as that. If we didn’t have 20k at a game vs Youngstown State, we wouldn’t have to schedule Penn State the following week.

-I already proved that theory wrong in 2009. 50K against Youngstown in the opener. 55K against Buffalo in Week 3.

 

[Sarge25]

-I already proved that theory wrong in 2009. 50K against Youngstown in the opener. 55K against Buffalo in Week 3.

And 100k next year vs Albany!!! I countrd them on youtube!!!

 

[jtownknowitall]

How long ago was 2009? And how many fans weee really there?

 

[steel_curtain]

How long ago was 2009? And how many fans weee really there?

-I already posted the videos. Watch them on youtube, any game you want. Youngstown State, Buffalo, Uconn, crowd was full because the team was winning and drawing excitement.

 

[MarshallGoldberg]

I'm not sure the staff spent any time prepping for Oklahoma State. Did you watch those games? I'm fine with a few cupcakes instead of T Boone Pickens U, but anyone who wants to cancel Penn State, WVU, and Notre Dame doesn't understand what makes college football fun (hint: it's not Pitt beating Grambling.)

 

[joeydavid]

Padding a win total will fill more seats playing a random P5 team like OkieSt. OkieSt was a very good team that was ranked but didn't move the needle in attendance as only 38k bothered to show up. That's a no upside game but losing more than likely hurt attendance though the rest of the season.

We schedule traditional powerhouses to put butts in the seats. Simple as that. If we didn’t have 20k at a game vs Youngstown State, we wouldn’t have to schedule Penn State the following week.

 

[MarshallGoldberg]

-I already posted the videos. Watch them on youtube, any game you want. Youngstown State, Buffalo, Uconn, crowd was full because the team was winning and drawing excitement.

That 2009 non conference schedule also included NC State, Notre Dame, and 10 win Navy and we still had WVU as a historic conference rival.

Apples and oranges.

 

[jtownknowitall]

So after winning eight games in 2016, how many fans showed up for You gstown State in week one in 2017?

 

[TJOlsen]

The ACC gains more and more respect every year. Honestly even if your team has decent prestige and they are undefeated in a power 5 conference, you will make the playoffs. It doesn’t matter anymore about your non conference sos.

The ACC and the SEC are the best conferences in football top to bottom. No conference is even close. Can’t wait to see the all of the conference’s bowl records this year!!

 

[phxpanther]

-It certainly impacts it. You know how much time our staff spends prepping for Penn State and Oklahoma State instead of prepping and spending more time for a conference game. We could schedule Prairie View and have the score 35-0 at halftime, rest the starters, and not even prep to win the game and focus on the conference schedule. No, lets go all out prepping for Penn State and Oklahoma State, 2 games that do nothing for us, and are annual auto losses. And the same time wasting valuable time trying to beat those teams when more time could be spent trying to beat conference teams.

Lmfao. Please tell me you don't really believe this nonsense

 

[steel_curtain]

So after winning eight games in 2016, how many fans showed up for You gstown State in week one in 2017?

-41,000 fans in the opener against Youngstown

Then the team lost 3 games in a row.

-We got 33,000 fans against Rice

Then team lost 2 more games in a row.

-Record was 2-5 at that point with blowout losses to Penn State and Ok. State.

Then the team played Virginia.

-Attendance was a season low 30,000 fans

-At 4-7 record playing the #2 team in the country with Miami, Pitt got 36,000 fans to finish the season.

-We had more fans at the opener when there was "some excitement", as opposed to getting blown out multiple times, have a pathetic 4-7 record, and drawing 36,000 fans against Miami, the #2 team, 4000 less fans then against Youngstown.

-Do any of you not see how wins and losses effect perception? People dont show up to games when the team sucks. No on cares when the team wins 4 or 5 games a year. People care when the team has 8, 9, 10+ wins and the team is ranked with a pulse.

 

[OhioPittFan]

We get maybe a 10-15% bump in attendance by playing a quality P5 (not named psu, Nd or wvu) vs a G5 school. I just don’t see that being worth adding those games beyond the 1 marquee game like psu or Nd.

On top of that, we always choose to schedule top-end P5 teams - Okie st, MSU, Iowa, Nebraska, A&M, etc. If it’s your 2nd P5 game, at least look to more traditional mid to lower end opponents like Illinois, Indiana, Minnesota, MD, Rutgers, Vandy, Ky, etc.

Literally no good program schedules OOC like we do. Most of the big programs never play more than 1 H-H. So why are we doing it? It adds little attendance, prob costs us 1 win(which this year does matter), and no one notices it nationally.

What recruits do see and hear from opposing coaches is that our school goes to bowl games and pitt sat at home. It doesn’t matter if it’s a shit bowl game - it’s still something that can be used against us.

 

[Chescat]

-A number of posters want Pitt to be Non-Conference Powerhouse U. The same posters are claiming Miami is the only team worth a dam in the Coastal. And Miami is great again.

Miami's non conference this year

Bethune Cookman
Arkansas State
Toledo
Notre Dame

Miami's non conference schedule last year

Florida ATM
Florida Atlantic
App State
Notre Dame

Miami's non conference 2 years ago

Bethune Cookman
FAU
Nebraska
Cincinatti

Miami's non conference 3 years ago

Florida A&M
Arkansas State
Cincinatti
Nebraska

Miami's non conference next year

LSU
Savannah State
Toledo
Central Michigan


-All hail Miami. All hail. I dont see Miami scheduling Penn State, Notre Dame, Oklahoma State, Iowa, and a boatload of other good Power 5 Teams and Good Midmajor teams competing for Conference Titles and a Playoff.

-I see non-conference garbage U. All Hail Miami, They are Great Again.

-Then there is Pitt. Penn State, Notre Dame, Central Florida, 31-5 record this year and 3 preseason Top 15 teams next year. Way to go Barnes. Way to go 1% of Pitt fanbase that wants to be non-conference Elite scheduling U.

-Nice job Miami. Ranked in the Top 10 in the current polls.

-Following the Miami strategy, Pitt may have won 10 games in 2015, 9 games in 2016, and 7 games this year. Nope. 8 wins, 8 wins, 5 wins. Thanks Barnes and 1% of Pitt fanbase for zero poll rankings for Pitt and zero hype. Thanks non-conference Power Program Pitt. Thanks for letting me see Pitt go down 49-7 in the 2nd quarter against Ok. State. Thanks Barnes.

Ok, OK we hear you, and for me, I even agree with you....BUT how many times do we have to listen to this rant. You've been reminding of this over and over. So do us a favor
and take it to those who can do something about it......as if they'll listen to you LOL.

 

[jtownknowitall]

Oklahoma State is a top end team? Really?

 

[CJsE]

Pitt scheduled UCF after the 2016-2017 season when UCF finished 6-7 including a bowl beat down by Arkansas State(who Miami was scheduled to play this year but was cancelled due to hurricane) and 0-12 the previous season. That series was scheduled to get a game against a #50-75 ranked team in a recruiting hotbed. So let's forget the idea that they scheduled a potential powerhouse on purpose.

You mock Miami's 2014 and 2015 OOC schedule, but they are extremely similar to Pitt's schedule this year. They scheduled against Nebraska back in 2011 for that 2015 game. Nebraska had gone 9-4 that year and 10-4 in each of the previous 2 seasons. The announced the 2015 Cincinnati game in 2013 when Cincinnati finished 9-4 and 10-4 in each of the previous 2 seasons.

So it looks pretty damn even when you break it down and look at the teams and 3-year prior records when the games were scheduled.
Nebraska (2008-20010/11) 29-12_____________PSU (2008-2010/11) 29-10
Cincinnati (2011-2013/14) 29-12______________OK St. (2011-2013/14) 30-9
sub-500 CUSA_______________________________Sub-500 CUSA
Mid-Major___________________________________Mid-Major

edit: I might be off on the date we scheduled UCF, but I can't find any Pitt announcement prior to the time frame I have listed.

 

[joeydavid]

That's really the point. You are on a college football message board questioning whether OkieSt is a top end team.

They have 10 plus wins 6 of the last 8 years with a .750 winning percentage. If a frequent message board reader doesn't know this- the average fan has no clue.

Oklahoma State is a top end team? Really?

 

[SempleFest06]

This thread is dumb. We shouldn't play ND and Psu ooc is fine I guess even though they will be the 2 most looked forward to games on the entire schedule. If we can't beat UCF then we have bigger problems. If we replace PSU with a cupcake we will add another win (if u just assume we will always lose to psu I guess?). The difference between 7-6 and 8-5 doesn't mean anything in the grand scheme of things.

 

[thebadby2]

This thread is dumb. We shouldn't play ND and Psu ooc is fine I guess even though they will be the 2 most looked forward to games on the entire schedule. If we can't beat UCF then we have bigger problems. If we replace PSU with a cupcake we will add another win (if u just assume we will always lose to psu I guess?). The difference between 7-6 and 8-5 doesn't mean anything in the grand scheme of things.

You must not be familiar with the OP. He’s a pice of work.

 

[phxpanther]

Oklahoma State is a top end team? Really?

On the field, yes they are, do they move the needle like a top end team? No.

 

[steel_curtain]

On the field, yes they are, do they move the needle like a top end team? No.

-Excellent. Then another poster has agreed with me. We can now stop playing Oklahoma State (2 losses) Iowa (2 losses) Texas A&M (2 losses), Michigan State (2 losses), Penn State 1-1 with probably 2 more losses, Nebraska (2 losses) etc... Every time we schedule one of these home and homes, we lose every single time, home and away.

-No more Oklahoma State, a team that is almost always ranked at least Top 25 and wins somewhere around 10 games, and we exchange that game with Rutgers, Kansas, or Indiana moving forward.

-In the last 5 to 10 years, Pitt probably has lost the most games in the non conference schedule of any P5 team in the entire country. Because we schedule like idiots in the non conference. Next year we lose probably 3 in the non conference, putting us in a giant hole. Crowds will be dead by seasons end just like against #2 Miami this year regardless of who we play if our win loss record sucks.

 

[steel_curtain]

Pitt scheduled UCF after the 2016-2017 season when UCF finished 6-7 including a bowl beat down by Arkansas State(who Miami was scheduled to play this year but was cancelled due to hurricane) and 0-12 the previous season. That series was scheduled to get a game against a #50-75 ranked team in a recruiting hotbed. So let's forget the idea that they scheduled a potential powerhouse on purpose.

You mock Miami's 2014 and 2015 OOC schedule, but they are extremely similar to Pitt's schedule this year. They scheduled against Nebraska back in 2011 for that 2015 game. Nebraska had gone 9-4 that year and 10-4 in each of the previous 2 seasons. The announced the 2015 Cincinnati game in 2013 when Cincinnati finished 9-4 and 10-4 in each of the previous 2 seasons.

So it looks pretty damn even when you break it down and look at the teams and 3-year prior records when the games were scheduled.
Nebraska (2008-20010/11) 29-12_____________PSU (2008-2010/11) 29-10
Cincinnati (2011-2013/14) 29-12______________OK St. (2011-2013/14) 30-9
sub-500 CUSA_______________________________Sub-500 CUSA
Mid-Major___________________________________Mid-Major

edit: I might be off on the date we scheduled UCF, but I can't find any Pitt announcement prior to the time frame I have listed.

-Im glad they look even to you. Ill happily play Cincinnati every single year as opposed to Oklahoma State since you think those teams are equal to you. Had the teams played this year, Id give you a 28 point spread Oklahoma State would embarrass Cincinnati anywhere on the planet. Cincinnati hasnt beat a ranked team since Brian Kelly coached there, back in 2009.

 

[VAPITTALUM]

Oklahoma State is a top end team? Really?

A P5 team who consistently wins 10 games each year... yeah, I would consider that a "top end team".

 

[jtownknowitall]

If you can’t beat Oklahoma State what is the point of going 10-2? The chance to lose to a team like say Oklahoma State in the Cotton Bowl or maybe the Bell Bowl?

 

[jtownknowitall]

And how can the number two team in a state with a population of just four million be superior to the number two team in a state with a population nearly three times its size? A Weaker out of conference schedule?

 

[steel_curtain]

If you can’t beat Oklahoma State what is the point of going 10-2? The chance to lose to a team like say Oklahoma State in the Cotton Bowl or maybe the Bell Bowl?

-Oklahoma State is on the verge of having 5, count them, FIVE, Top 20 Nationally ranked finishes in the last 8 years.

 

[jtownknowitall]

And why were they so stupid to schedule Pitt as an OOC game?

 

[thebadby2]

-Oklahoma State is on the verge of having 5, count them, FIVE, Top 10 Nationally ranked finishes in the last 8 years.

Actually they have one-count it-ONE—top 10 finish since 1984, and that was in 2011. Foiled by google again.

Do you assume nobody’s going to fact check you when you publish these blatant falsehoods, or do you just make this stuff up?