Monmouth Game & Other Dribbles ...

[Fsgolfdr]

That isn't just true, it's
also sadly ironic in that
Capel is a product of that
very program.

Regardless, I'm convinced
after seeing X, Femi, Burton,
and even walk on Ezzy, that
he runs a pg oriented offense
that relies on excessive dribbling.

Just my two cents.

Other than Hugley Pitt really doesn’t have a guy who can creat on his own .

 

[Chescat]

Other than Hugley Pitt really doesn’t have a guy who can creat on his own .

Femi on occasion is able
to create. The problem is,
he's not really that type
of player. However, as I
posted before, Capel's
pg oriented offense puts
him in this situation. This
is an offense that depends
on initial dribbling. When
nothing comes from it, the
pg resorts to excessive
dribbling. We then wonder
why the offense breaks
down? Combine that with
no or little player movement
and we see the result.

 

[gary2]

Femi on occasion is able
to create. The problem is,
he's not really that type
of player. However, as I
posted before, Capel's
pg oriented offense puts
him in this situation. This
is an offense that depends
on initial dribbling. When
nothing comes from it, the
pg resorts to excessive
dribbling. We then wonder
why the offense breaks
down? It's pretty simple
to me.

Agree

 

[Fsgolfdr]

Femi on occasion is able
to create. The problem is,
he's not really that type
of player. However, as I
posted before, Capel's
pg oriented offense puts
him in this situation. This
is an offense that depends
on initial dribbling. When
nothing comes from it, the
pg resorts to excessive
dribbling. We then wonder
why the offense breaks
down? Combine that with
no or little player movement
and we see the result.

They need a guy or preferably 2 to bury open 3’s to open up the court .

 

[TWPitt]

I'd love to see Pitt not dribble once on offense and just pass. Nothing more...just pass and set up an offense off the pass only. I don't think Capel knows how to coach that.

For sure I went home after the game last night and watched Hoosiers. Maybe we can get Norman Dale to come coach next year...

 

[PittPoker]

Pitt had Hugley who they neutralized and what other scoring options did JC not try to use ? Big John was forced to make multiple bad passes when he was double and tripled teamed . He better get use to it . Pitt has no other natural scorers than Hugley . We’re going to see a lot of bad offensive bb this season .

I’d take their roster or if you could put Hugley on their team they’d be really good .

I guess you didn't read DT's dribbles because 1 of the things he mentioned was the high ball screen ineffectiveness by us and the coaching aspect of it. Look I'm sorry you don't agree but even competent coaching on our end and we win this game.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

I’ve noticed Jeffress is open a lot waving his arms for the ball and his teammates just ignore him . Guess he doesn’t make them in practice either !

And then the other side of the coin is that when he is wide open and waving his arms for the ball and they do pass it to him he doesn't take the open shot, he dribbles himself into traffic. Because HE knows he can't make those shots too.

We play two guys over 30 minutes per game on the perimeter on offense who simply won't shoot the ball unless they are wide open, and even then they usually don't. Which makes us so easy to guard.

 

[TWPitt]

But he still needs to make the shot !

Be nice to see them even get the shot.

 

[goalieman]

The Capel era at Pitt started out promising but then, a combination of too many transfers, injuries, arrests, lack of discipline, ineffective recruiting with time, and poor or at least underwhelming x and o's ........ result is that we are the worst or maybe next to worst P6 team at this point in time ....... it is what it is and Heather needs to try and get it fixed !

 

[Fsgolfdr]

And then the other side of the coin is that when he is wide open and waving his arms for the ball and they do pass it to him he doesn't take the open shot, he dribbles himself into traffic. Because HE knows he can't make those shots too.

We play two guys over 30 minutes per game on the perimeter on offense who simply won't shoot the ball unless they are wide open, and even then they usually don't. Which makes us so easy to guard.

There really is no answer to the Panthers offensive ills . Especially this yr without Nike and Horton .

 

[MarshallGoldberg]

DT's original post reminded me of something: for a team that is actually pretty good at defending the pick and roll considering our talent level and lack of a dominate rim defender, it's incredible how bad we are at running it offensively. Even when our offense lacked movement the first three years of Capel, we would at least score off the high pick and roll enough to force teams to go zone now and then.

 

[HailToPitt1985]

Well, to do what you're
asking, the other four
players have to be in
some sort of motion.
Either picks and screens,
or a motion offense. There
is such a thing called a
"Motion Offense." I've
always thought it was good
for a team deficient in
talent....like Pitt for instance.

With that said, I like your
suggestion. It's not a case
of Capel knowing or not
knowing. At this level they
do know. Whether they do it
or not is something else
entirely.

Oh, I'm sure Capel knows about it and the players know. Capel just doesn't make that part of his strategy and playcalling. Or maybe he knows the players he has aren't capable of doing it consistently.

Like I said, I want to see a couple of sets with ONLY passing, NO dribbling. Basics. Can they do that?

 

[JS School]

On the bright side....



....well, Odukale's FT shooting looks greatly improved.

 

[Chescat]

Oh, I'm sure Capel knows about it and the players know. Capel just doesn't make that part of his strategy and playcalling. Or maybe he knows the players he has aren't capable of doing it consistently.

Like I said, I want to see a couple of sets with ONLY passing, NO dribbling. Basics. Can they do that?

Yes they can do it. How
well they can do it is a
horse of another color.
BTW, I tend to agree with
your suggestion about sets
and passing. I would say
MORE passing, instead of
"only passing" because at this
level defenses are taught
how to play passing lanes.

What I believe is more
movement by all five
players. Add that to your
suggestion. There has to be
some times players will put
the ball on the floor, so you
can't eliminate dribbling
entirely.

 

[tps48]

If everything went as planned Capel could have made it as a coach here. Unfortunately it didn’t and his window for getting top 150 recruits I’m afraid has ended. I think early on he let his assistants have to much control and the virus and etc got Capel off his target which was Pitt basketball. This team shows heart but they don’t have the studs to do it. Tonight he needed to stop papas and he just didn’t. If they took away his shooting they probably win but that’s every game there does not seem to be a game plan on offense or defense for the opponent their playing. After the game it sounds like he knows about it I just don’t see anything during the game that shows his players respond to anything different. At times they seem to possibly be doing something that makes a rhyme or reason too but maybe their just simply not enough guys that can do it. Of course no one knew Nike could play last year till he had to put him in. Never did find out why he didnt play all year like didn’t Capel didn’t know he could play.

Capel's system is simple. Tell your players to attack with no discernible plan of attack. In other words, there is no plan. That may work if you have great shooters and ballhandlers. He hasn't landed many (any?) of these. Now his reputation is so tarnished that he can't recruit. There is no way for Capel to fix this situation. Can't win if you can't recruit or coach.