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Mr. Miller: ouch

Yeah, I can't believe Willard would want to come here and I can't believe we'd actually want him to come here. We'd have to get waaaaaay down on the list for his name to get to the top.

I have no idea if he (or any of the guys mentioned on any of the lists) would want to go here.

Don't love Kevin Willard either. I'd just rather have someone who has coached in the BE or top conference than some of mid or lower Div teams.

But that's me -- I guess whoever we get, there are no certainties.
 
I have no idea if he (or any of the guys mentioned on any of the lists) would want to go here.

Don't love Kevin Willard either. I'd just rather have someone who has coached in the BE or top conference than some of mid or lower Div teams.

But that's me -- I guess whoever we get, there are no certainties.
My guess is Brandin Knight gets the job after all of Barnes choices decline.
 
There has been a contingent of about a dozen high powered donors and alumni who started putting heavy pressure to make a change with Dixon as soon as the new chancellor and AD were in place.

And this should be disconcerting for anyone that was familiar with how things went down in the 80s and early 90s that resulted in a nearly destroyed athletic department.

New AD with no institutional history comes in and the "Golden Panthers" immediately try to reestablish their power. These people better be cutting some new enormous checks.

What went down with JD is important to note because it speaks to how the new athletic administration is being influenced and operating. It is no coincidence that the winningest coach in 70 year at Pitt walked, for a job he could have had at any nearly prior point in his head coaching career, with 7 years left on his contract and less than a year into the new AD's tenure. That is not a criticism, just an obvious observation.

Barnes' primary responsibility, in addition to fundraising and selling tickets, is obtaining and retaining talent in his coaching stable. The "toxic environment" was allowed to begin developing under his watch. The lack of interest in retaining Dixon on Pitt's side of the table is on Barnes, and whatever the result of that will be will be credited to Barnes, for better or worse. Make no mistake, everyone hopes for the better and it certainly could turn out that way. After all, the basketball pedigree of this guy is well beyond any of his predecessors.

80s movie sequels are in vogue right now. This is starting to feel a bit familiar. I sure hope our boosters have gotten smarter and wealthier over the last 20-30 years.
 
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And this should be disconcerting for anyone that was familiar with how things went down in the 80s and early 90s that resulted in a nearly destroyed athletic department.

New AD with no institutional history comes in and the "Golden Panthers" immediately try to reestablish their power. These people better be cutting some new enormous checks.

What went down with JD is important to note because it speaks to how the new athletic administration is being influenced and operating. It is no coincidence that the winningest coach in 70 year at Pitt walked, for a job he could have had at any nearly prior point in his head coaching career, with 7 years left on his contract and less than a year into the new AD's tenure. That is not a criticism, just an obvious observation.

Barnes' primary responsibility, in addition to fundraising and selling tickets, is obtaining and retaining talent in his coaching stable. The "toxic environment" was allowed to begin developing under his watch. The lack of interest in retaining Dixon on Pitt's side of the table is on Barnes, and whatever the result of that will be will be credited to Barnes, for better or worse. Make no mistake, everyone hopes for the better and it certainly could turn out that way. After all, the basketball pedigree of this guy is well beyond any of his predecessors.

80s movie sequels are in vogue right now. This is starting to feel a bit familiar. I sure hope our boosters have gotten smarter and wealthier over the last 20-30 years.

Very accurate and worrisome for those of us who lived through that time.
 
And this should be disconcerting for anyone that was familiar with how things went down in the 80s and early 90s that resulted in a nearly destroyed athletic department.

New AD with no institutional history comes in and the "Golden Panthers" immediately try to reestablish their power. These people better be cutting some new enormous checks.

What went down with JD is important to note because it speaks to how the new athletic administration is being influenced and operating. It is no coincidence that the winningest coach in 70 year at Pitt walked, for a job he could have had at any nearly prior point in his head coaching career, with 7 years left on his contract and less than a year into the new AD's tenure. That is not a criticism, just an obvious observation.

Barnes' primary responsibility, in addition to fundraising and selling tickets, is obtaining and retaining talent in his coaching stable. The "toxic environment" was allowed to begin developing under his watch. The lack of interest in retaining Dixon on Pitt's side of the table is on Barnes, and whatever the result of that will be will be credited to Barnes, for better or worse. Make no mistake, everyone hopes for the better and it certainly could turn out that way. After all, the basketball pedigree of this guy is well beyond any of his predecessors.

80s movie sequels are in vogue right now. This is starting to feel a bit familiar. I sure hope our boosters have gotten smarter and wealthier over the last 20-30 years.

Exactly.
 
And this should be disconcerting for anyone that was familiar with how things went down in the 80s and early 90s that resulted in a nearly destroyed athletic department.

New AD with no institutional history comes in and the "Golden Panthers" immediately try to reestablish their power. These people better be cutting some new enormous checks.

What went down with JD is important to note because it speaks to how the new athletic administration is being influenced and operating. It is no coincidence that the winningest coach in 70 year at Pitt walked, for a job he could have had at any nearly prior point in his head coaching career, with 7 years left on his contract and less than a year into the new AD's tenure. That is not a criticism, just an obvious observation.

Barnes' primary responsibility, in addition to fundraising and selling tickets, is obtaining and retaining talent in his coaching stable. The "toxic environment" was allowed to begin developing under his watch. The lack of interest in retaining Dixon on Pitt's side of the table is on Barnes, and whatever the result of that will be will be credited to Barnes, for better or worse. Make no mistake, everyone hopes for the better and it certainly could turn out that way. After all, the basketball pedigree of this guy is well beyond any of his predecessors.

80s movie sequels are in vogue right now. This is starting to feel a bit familiar. I sure hope our boosters have gotten smarter and wealthier over the last 20-30 years.
can we at least ask ourselves WHY these donors want Dixon out, or added pressure? Because the program was falling under expectations.. It's really that simple, I doubt there is any secret agenda here.. High powered donors were not happy with direction of program.. Fans like to see wins, actual wins against D1 teams not called Western Washington or central Arkansas.. Maybe the expectations are too high for a program like ours, that might be a legit argument but the point remains, this program was not up to what the fans wanted..

I honestly don't see the issue here.. We should be worried cause some rich pitt alums don't like to go 9 and 9 in the acc and lose in the first round? Who the hell does? Paco, I like you here but you're being over dramatic on this one. Your allegiance to Dixon is honorable but clouding your sense of objectivity.. YOu can only give a coach so many extensions after losing seasons before it becomes a running joke.. Dixon has played the "rumor mill" game well, denying any truth to these rumors after he sigs extension. Ever notice that Dixon NEVER admitted he wasn't interested in these alleged jobs like Sean did. Never once did Jamie make a statement about these openings until after he was offered more money or more years.. NOT ONCE...
 
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And this should be disconcerting for anyone that was familiar with how things went down in the 80s and early 90s that resulted in a nearly destroyed athletic department.

Barnes' primary responsibility, in addition to fundraising and selling tickets, is obtaining and retaining talent in his coaching stable. The "toxic environment" was allowed to begin developing under his watch. The lack of interest in retaining Dixon on Pitt's side of the table is on Barnes, and whatever the result of that will be will be credited to Barnes, for better or worse. Make no mistake, everyone hopes for the better and it certainly could turn out that way. After all, the basketball pedigree of this guy is well beyond any of his predecessors.

80s movie sequels are in vogue right now. This is starting to feel a bit familiar. I sure hope our boosters have gotten smarter and wealthier over the last 20-30 years.

The 80's & 90's were a perfect storm of incompetence. An idiot AD (Bozik) and a chancellor who was on cruise control (Posvar) let things deteriorate and made some horrific decisions that have crippled the program 30 years later (joining the Big East instead of trying to work with Paterno to form the all-east conference). And when it looked like things would get better and a new regime was coming in, it actually got worse with O'Conner, Jaynes, and the rise in influence of Brisco and the academics.

I lived this time period Paco, saw it up close. To say what we are seeing now is in any way, shape, or form "familiar" is extremely narrow minded on your part.
 
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