Next round of expansion

[Sean Miller Fan]

I just don't see the Big Ten stopping at 14 teams. Delaney wants world domination. He wants to be the premier college football conference, better than the SEC and I think the very short, 6 year TV contract which coincides roughly with ACC and Big 12 GOR deals coming to an end is an indicator that we are in for some very nervy times ahead.

What do I think the Big Ten does?

1. Declares war on the SEC by adding Florida State, Miami, GT, and Clemson to give it access to recruiting and TV markets in prime SEC territory

2. SEC counters by taking UNC, NCSU, UVa, and VT

- With both leagues at 18 teams, the Big Ten and SEC turn to the Big 12 and ND.

- With LHN's fate sealed by this time, Texas and little bro (TT) pick the Big Ten in part due to its academic reputation but also in part because they don't want to be affiliated with Texas A&M. Also, Texas will feel it will be a big dog in the Big Ten, but just another also-ran in the SEC.

- Oklahoma and little bro choose the SEC.

- Notre Dame finally chooses a conference, going with the Big 10 which now has markets in the NE, MW, mid-atlantic, SE, and Texas.

I think they may stop at 20 teams or 21 with ND but just for fun, lets go a bit further.

- The Big Ten keeps going crazy and adds new markets, Syracuse, BC, and Duke to get to 24

- The SEC has to decide between Pitt, WVU, Wake, Duke, Kansas, KST, Baylor, TCU, Houston

- SEC takes Pitt, WVU, TCU, and Kansas

- Pac 12 takes Baylor, Houston, SMU to gain access to Texas markets plus KST, Iowa State, and UNLV to add new markets

SEC North
Pitt
WVU
Virginia
VT
UNC
NCSU

SEC East
Florida
Georgia
South Carolina
Tennessee
Vanderbilt
Kentucky

SEC South
Alabama
Auburn
Miss
Miss St
LSU
Ark

SEC West
Missouri
Kansas
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Texas A&M
TCU

Big Ten North
BC
Syracuse
RU
PSU
Maryland
Notre Dame

Big Ten South
Duke
Clemson
GT
FSU
Miami
Indiana

Big Ten Central
OSU
MSU
Mich
Purdue
Illinois
Northwestern

Big Ten West
Texas
TT
Nebraska
Iowa
Wisconsin
Minnesota

- I know most will act as if this can never happen but it is basically a foregone conclusion that the Big Ten and SEC will expand again. The only question is how far they need to expand to include Pitt in the plans.

 

[ThePanthers]

Why stop there? Let's have them raid the Pac 12 too and become 2 32 team conferences.

 

[Swervin27]

I've been reading the articles on this, I find it interesting. the big 10 TV deal ends in 2023, just before the rights to the ACC end. I forget what we call it, grant of rights or something like that? Saw an article yesterday on it, basically saying that the ACC needs to get off their butts and make this tv network happen sooner rather than later.

We were in a conference that was very reactive and now we seem to have jumped from the frying pan into the fryer.. Delaney is a bad man, you aren't too far off with his quest for global domination. ACC is a respectable conference but 1 or 2 teams get poached, this is a house of cards that will tumble. next time, pitt may not be so lucky with a seat at the adult table..

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Why stop there? Let's have them raid the Pac 12 too and become 2 32 team conferences.

The end game is 3 super conferences. Probably a 4 team playoff within the conferences with the 3 conference champion plus a wildcard advancing to Final Four. Just too much money at stake for Big Ten and SEC to stop.

 

[Swervin27]

Why stop there? Let's have them raid the Pac 12 too and become 2 32 team conferences.

pac 12 is safe, acc and big 12 are the wounded animal, exposed and vulnerable. GOR is nice but nothing is air tight. I am sure enough money and lawyers, loopholes could be exposed..

Id love to see 4 mega conferences, 16 teams each.. Think that would be the ultimate end game..

 

[H2Pittisit]

I think 20 is the MAX a conference would expand to simply for money and scheduling purposes. I don't think 20 will happen prior to 2025 and I am not sure it ever happens. I do think the B1G will eventually expand. The question is does it happen prior to the B12 expanding. A lot of rumblings regarding UNC and VA lately, but I do not see it. We just have to hope that VA, Duke, VT, NC, FLA St, and Clemson are not behind the scenes working on a way to get out of the GOR together.

 

[H2Pittisit]

Very good thread on the main board regarding some scenarios. Many of which I hope do not happen

 

[ThePanthers]

Very good thread on the main board regarding some scenarios. Many of which I hope do not happen

Most of those are complete garbage spun by The Dude, TuxedoYoda, BlueVodReal, and MVHer.

IF teams were ever going to leave, I would say UVA and UNC to the BIG and NC St and VT to the SEC, but that is a big IF.

I fully agree, the ACC (along with the Pac 12 and Big XII) need to generate more revenue to catch up to the BIG and SEC, and I think some things are in the works for the ACC. But the majority of the cash is made from ticket sales and donations, that is what seperates a lot of those schools. Plus the ACC doesn't have to make BIG or SEC money, they just need to be in the ballpark.

Also, there is no end game. When in the history of college athletics has there been an organized, agreed upon reorganization.

PS - ACC GOR ends in 2027, Big XII in 2024 I believe.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

I have pretty much come to grips with the fact Pitt will be left behind in the next round.

The ACC's only hope is to add the combination of ND, Texas, TT, OU, and OKST. Let Texas keep their network but dont share in ACC Network revenue.

 

[paulbl99]

I just don't see the Big Ten stopping at 14 teams. Delaney wants world domination. He wants to be the premier college football conference, better than the SEC and I think the very short, 6 year TV contract which coincides roughly with ACC and Big 12 GOR deals coming to an end is an indicator that we are in for some very nervy times ahead.

What do I think the Big Ten does?

1. Declares war on the SEC by adding Florida State, Miami, GT, and Clemson to give it access to recruiting and TV markets in prime SEC territory

2. SEC counters by taking UNC, NCSU, UVa, and VT

- With both leagues at 18 teams, the Big Ten and SEC turn to the Big 12 and ND.

- With LHN's fate sealed by this time, Texas and little bro (TT) pick the Big Ten in part due to its academic reputation but also in part because they don't want to be affiliated with Texas A&M. Also, Texas will feel it will be a big dog in the Big Ten, but just another also-ran in the SEC.

- Oklahoma and little bro choose the SEC.

- Notre Dame finally chooses a conference, going with the Big 10 which now has markets in the NE, MW, mid-atlantic, SE, and Texas.

I think they may stop at 20 teams or 21 with ND but just for fun, lets go a bit further.

- The Big Ten keeps going crazy and adds new markets, Syracuse, BC, and Duke to get to 24

- The SEC has to decide between Pitt, WVU, Wake, Duke, Kansas, KST, Baylor, TCU, Houston

- SEC takes Pitt, WVU, TCU, and Kansas

- Pac 12 takes Baylor, Houston, SMU to gain access to Texas markets plus KST, Iowa State, and UNLV to add new markets

SEC North
Pitt
WVU
Virginia
VT
UNC
NCSU

SEC East
Florida
Georgia
South Carolina
Tennessee
Vanderbilt
Kentucky

SEC South
Alabama
Auburn
Miss
Miss St
LSU
Ark

SEC West
Missouri
Kansas
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Texas A&M
TCU

Big Ten North
BC
Syracuse
RU
PSU
Maryland
Notre Dame

Big Ten South
Duke
Clemson
GT
FSU
Miami
Indiana

Big Ten Central
OSU
MSU
Mich
Purdue
Illinois
Northwestern

Big Ten West
Texas
TT
Nebraska
Iowa
Wisconsin
Minnesota

- I know most will act as if this can never happen but it is basically a foregone conclusion that the Big Ten and SEC will expand again. The only question is how far they need to expand to include Pitt in the plans.

Where do you get this stuff

 

[Swervin27]

Where do you get this stuff

SMF has a very wild imagination regarding conference expansion.. I truly enjoy his posts, dude is expert on the network/cable stuff and usually pretty good with expansion, he just seems to take the "highly unlikely" scenarious and move them into the "probable" category and add a touch of pitt-doomsday sprinkled on top..

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Where do you get this stuff

What? Its common sense that the Big Ten will expand again so the teams can only come from the ACC and Big 12.

Personally, I think the B10 and SEC will stop around 20 and our league will look like:

Syr
BC
UConn
Pitt
WVU
Wake
Duke
ISU
Kansas
KST
Baylor
TCU
Houston
Temple
Cincy
UCF
USF
Memphis

 

[H2Pittisit]

What? Its common sense that the Big Ten will expand again so the teams can only come from the ACC and Big 12.

Personally, I think the B10 and SEC will stop around 20 and our league will look like:

Syr
BC
UConn
Pitt
WVU
Wake
Duke
ISU
Kansas
KST
Baylor
TCU
Houston
Temple
Cincy
UCF
USF
Memphis

No way

 

[paulbl99]

What? Its common sense that the Big Ten will expand again so the teams can only come from the ACC and Big 12.

Personally, I think the B10 and SEC will stop around 20 and our league will look like:

Syr
BC
UConn
Pitt
WVU
Wake
Duke
ISU
Kansas
KST
Baylor
TCU
Houston
Temple
Cincy
UCF
USF
Memphis

I think the 30 biggest revenue generators will tell the NCAA to flip off and form A League of Their Own
A federation more like the NFL with a name-only association with the school sponsoring them.

There will be no more nonsense about student athletes; they will be paid and only go to seminars occasionally...

They will conduct their own playoffs and just for stuff and giggles will keep The Rose , Orange , Sugar Fiesta Bowl and Cotton Bowl

The BB tourney will include all Clubs and maybe allow some of the all other schools still participating in Inter Collegiate Athletics.

They will have HUGE amounts of revenue and don't need actually the bottom feeders of the conference in which they currently reside ...

 

[Swervin27]

I think the 30 biggest revenue generators will tell the NCAA to flip off and form A League of Their Own
A federation more like the NFL with a name-only association with the school sponsoring them.

There will be no more nonsense about student athletes; they will be paid and only go to seminars occasionally...

They will conduct their own playoffs and just for stuff and giggles will keep The Rose , Orange , Sugar Fiesta Bowl and Cotton Bowl

The BB tourney will include all Clubs and maybe allow some of the all other schools still participating in Inter Collegiate Athletics.

They will have HUGE amounts of revenue and don't need actually the bottom feeders of the conference in which they currently reside ...

OK, soooo basically nothing to do with College football whatsoever but more of a minor league with a very loose affilitation with the university.. damn, that would be pretty much terrible.. Why would an educational institution associate themselves and allow the use of their school to a minor league team made up of non students?

 

[Panthergrowl13]

Nonsense!!!!

HAIL TO PITT!!!!

 

[Dr. von Yinzer]

I don't think anyone has any clue what's going to happen and it's useless to just blindly speculate.

 

[Piranha]

The TV Networks, in particular ESPN will not let these outlandish scenarios occur. SMF - I suggest switching to Decaf.

 

[ThePanthers]

I don't think anyone has any clue what's going to happen and it's useless to just blindly speculate.

This.

 

[Dr. von Yinzer]

I do think the B12 could be on the verge of expansion and that could happen as early as next fall.

They just hired a consultant who told them that their chances of winning a national championship increase by 4-5 percent by adding two or even FOUR more teams. They also named David Boren the head of their expansion committee and nobody has been a more outspoken expansion advocate than the Oklahoma president. That is a clear signal of their ever-evolving behind-the-scenes attitude toward expansion.

It will be interesting to see what they do. In my view the early favorites are Cincinnati and BYU, with UConn, UCF, and USF also in contention.

 

[ThePanthers]

I do think the B12 could be on the verge of expansion and that could happen as early as next fall.

They just hired a consultant who told them that their chances of winning a national championship increase by 4-5 percent by adding two or even FOUR more teams. They also named David Boren the head of their expansion committee and nobody has been a more outspoken expansion advocate than the Oklahoma president. That is a clear signal of their ever-evolving behind-the-scenes attitude toward expansion.

It will be interesting to see what they do. In my view the early favorites are Cincinnati and BYU, with UConn, UCF, and USF also in contention.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoo...rove-big-12s-playoff-chances-by-10-15-percent

Actually, the 4-5 percent was if they just added a championship game, it goes up to 10-15 percent if they add two teams and go to an 8 game conference schedule.

I personally think IF they do expand, it will be all east. Cincy and UConn would be my guess, but like you said, who the hell knows.

 

[H2Pittisit]

I don't think anyone has any clue what's going to happen and it's useless to just blindly speculate.

Exactly right. The Big 12 is more than likely expanding and that is all we know. I think if they add teams like Cincy, BYU, and UConn their product becomes even more watered down and disoriented than it already is, but I think it may be their only options

 

[paulbl99]

OWhy would an educational institution associate themselves and allow the use of their school to a minor league team made up of non students?

They already pretty much do.

This confirms it and streamlines things ....
The name on the uniforms still will use Dear Old State....or whatever
But everything else cuts to chase

Again this is only for the Top 30 or so

Everybody else continues as Inter collegiate athletes.
At a rung down of course

 

[Swervin27]

They already pretty much do.

no paul, they really don't.. students are full time students and they are governed by the ncaa.. You are talking about a minor league team filled with a roster full of paid professionals that have no correlation to any university.. Basically you are saying a minor league for the nfl that are using the name/uniforms/venue of an educational institution. NOt sure why or how that is possible..

 

[paulbl99]

They already pretty much do.

This confirms it and streamlines things ....
The name on the uniforms still will use Dear Old State....or whatever
But everything else cuts to chase

no paul, they really don't.. students are full time students and they are governed by the ncaa.. You are talking about a minor league team filled with a roster full of paid professionals that have no correlation to any university.. Basically you are saying a minor league for the nfl that are using the name/uniforms/venue of an educational institution. NOt sure why or how that is possible..

fullbtime students is laughable
The NCAA is bunch clowns sitting on their assess doing squat for 100 large and up.

Yes it is basically a minor league for the NFl

Oh wait.
Didn't you watch the draft.

 

[Swervin27]

fullbtime students is laughable
The NCAA is bunch clowns sitting on their assess doing squat for 100 large and up.

Yes it is basically a minor league for the NFl

Oh wait.
Didn't you watch the draft.

it is a minor league, supplying 99% of the players. Actually saw the white german dude get drafted, rooting for him because well he's white and german so yeah. Anyways, you said that the 30 biggest revenue makers will split from the ncaa and the players wont have to do any classes but in your words, only be affiliated with the school in name only.. I think that would basically be a sign that the apocalypse is fully upon us..

 

[Hero of the Oppressed]

My guess is Delaney will be retired in 2-3 years. He will probably consult for the big 10 after that.

What will cable even look like in 10 years? Young people stream everything. We will all pay a monthly fee to some type of service that we can pick and choose what we want to watch for sports.

 

[paulbl99]

it is a minor league, supplying 99% of the players. Actually saw the white german dude get drafted, rooting for him because well he's white and german so yeah. Anyways, you said that the 30 biggest revenue makers will split from the ncaa and the players wont have to do any classes but in your words, only be affiliated with the school in name only.. I think that would basically be a sign that the apocalypse is fully upon us..

I though that was coming in November
Regardless who wins.

 

[JoseLind13]

What will cable even look like in 10 years? Young people stream everything. We will all pay a monthly fee to some type of service that we can pick and choose what we want to watch for sports.

Agreed... Cable TV views was 99% of the motivation behind recent conference shuffling, but that will be much different business a few years from now. Traditional expanded cable is quickly becoming a dinosaur technology with the emergence of streaming alternatives. To remain price competitive, it would seem cable and satellite companies will eventually be forced to FINALLY cave to the demand for pure a la carte pricing and abandon the required bundle pricing arrangements with channels that many subscribers do not care to own and certainly will not pay, if the option exists. These sports bundles are the lifeblood to the lucrative networks revenues for the conferences. In reality, a huge number of New York fans will not buy the BTN, if they can get YES and MSG cheaper individually without paying for a package that includes BTN.

Exclusive streaming is the new horizon for revenue that the ACC and others entering the network business must adopt into their strategies. Don't laugh, but the WWE has actually pioneered something that may become commonplace in broadcast sports for many years ahead. Their online network contains a combination of exclusive live streaming events (games) with an endless library of on-demand historical content that becomes very attractive to the core market fans and eliminates the profit cut taken by cable and satellite providers (or in their case PPV providers). A conference can make equal money on such a network with FAR fewer needed subscribers using this technology. Subscriber numbers have not yet been as lucrative as initially planned in the WWE, but the format and technology is now proven viable and transferable to other sports programming.

It will be very interesting with how quickly broadcast entertainment technology and habits are going to move in the years ahead.

 

[pitt-girl]

Most of those are complete garbage spun by The Dude, TuxedoYoda, BlueVodReal, and MVHer.

IF teams were ever going to leave, I would say UVA and UNC to the BIG and NC St and VT to the SEC, but that is a big IF.

I fully agree, the ACC (along with the Pac 12 and Big XII) need to generate more revenue to catch up to the BIG and SEC, and I think some things are in the works for the ACC. But the majority of the cash is made from ticket sales and donations, that is what seperates a lot of those schools. Plus the ACC doesn't have to make BIG or SEC money, they just need to be in the ballpark.

Also, there is no end game. When in the history of college athletics has there been an organized, agreed upon reorganization.

PS - ACC GOR ends in 2027, Big XII in 2024 I believe.

No way the Legislature allow UNC and NCSU to go to different conferences.

 

[Gary77]

I just don't see the Big Ten stopping at 14 teams. Delaney wants world domination. He wants to be the premier college football conference, better than the SEC and I think the very short, 6 year TV contract which coincides roughly with ACC and Big 12 GOR deals coming to an end is an indicator that we are in for some very nervy times ahead.

What do I think the Big Ten does?

1. Declares war on the SEC by adding Florida State, Miami, GT, and Clemson to give it access to recruiting and TV markets in prime SEC territory

2. SEC counters by taking UNC, NCSU, UVa, and VT

- With both leagues at 18 teams, the Big Ten and SEC turn to the Big 12 and ND.

- With LHN's fate sealed by this time, Texas and little bro (TT) pick the Big Ten in part due to its academic reputation but also in part because they don't want to be affiliated with Texas A&M. Also, Texas will feel it will be a big dog in the Big Ten, but just another also-ran in the SEC.

- Oklahoma and little bro choose the SEC.

- Notre Dame finally chooses a conference, going with the Big 10 which now has markets in the NE, MW, mid-atlantic, SE, and Texas.

I think they may stop at 20 teams or 21 with ND but just for fun, lets go a bit further.

- The Big Ten keeps going crazy and adds new markets, Syracuse, BC, and Duke to get to 24

- The SEC has to decide between Pitt, WVU, Wake, Duke, Kansas, KST, Baylor, TCU, Houston

- SEC takes Pitt, WVU, TCU, and Kansas

- Pac 12 takes Baylor, Houston, SMU to gain access to Texas markets plus KST, Iowa State, and UNLV to add new markets

SEC North
Pitt
WVU
Virginia
VT
UNC
NCSU

SEC East
Florida
Georgia
South Carolina
Tennessee
Vanderbilt
Kentucky

SEC South
Alabama
Auburn
Miss
Miss St
LSU
Ark

SEC West
Missouri
Kansas
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Texas A&M
TCU

Big Ten North
BC
Syracuse
RU
PSU
Maryland
Notre Dame

Big Ten South
Duke
Clemson
GT
FSU
Miami
Indiana

Big Ten Central
OSU
MSU
Mich
Purdue
Illinois
Northwestern

Big Ten West
Texas
TT
Nebraska
Iowa
Wisconsin
Minnesota

- I know most will act as if this can never happen but it is basically a foregone conclusion that the Big Ten and SEC will expand again. The only question is how far they need to expand to include Pitt in the plans.

Wishful thinking gone amok! You have far too much time on you hands.

 

[H2Pittisit]

No way the Legislature allow UNC and NCSU to go to different conferences.

I don't think it will happen but didn't we hear the same thing about Texas and Texas A&M at one time? Money talks.

 

[pitt-girl]

I don't think it will happen but didn't we hear the same thing about Texas and Texas A&M at one time? Money talks.

I think that was a bit difference given the unique status of Texas.

 

[yourhired]

SMF I give you credit for your imagination but the BIG Ten will not be expanding anywhere in future the schools don't want to split the pie any further than it has to. If the ACC does expand it will probably only if ND decides it's time NBC Sports would be a new tv partner for the ACC. The Big 12 is itching to expand but they don't like any of the options of those schools available they will only expand if they're force too. If that happens Texas & Oklahoma could leave and join the PAC 10 but I highly doubt it. Think about it does Memphis, Cincinnati, UConn add any value as a football partner and the answer is no and nobody is beating down BYU door.

 

[ThePanthers]

No way the Legislature allow UNC and NCSU to go to different conferences.

I think if they both landed in strong conferences like the BIG and SEC, they would.

That said, I think they both want to remain where they are.

 

[Pitt79]

The end game is 3 super conferences. Probably a 4 team playoff within the conferences with the 3 conference champion plus a wildcard advancing to Final Four. Just too much money at stake for Big Ten and SEC to stop.

Why not 4 leagues, so you can have a Final 4, Take the 4 conference champs that won their league's title game and leave out subjective selections all together? Each league could have 20, the Power 5 current teams, plus the very best non-P5 teams and relegate the rest to I-AA.

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

I just don't see the Big Ten stopping at 14 teams. Delaney wants world domination. He wants to be the premier college football conference, better than the SEC and I think the very short, 6 year TV contract which coincides roughly with ACC and Big 12 GOR deals coming to an end is an indicator that we are in for some very nervy times ahead.

What do I think the Big Ten does?

1. Declares war on the SEC by adding Florida State, Miami, GT, and Clemson to give it access to recruiting and TV markets in prime SEC territory

2. SEC counters by taking UNC, NCSU, UVa, and VT

- With both leagues at 18 teams, the Big Ten and SEC turn to the Big 12 and ND.

- With LHN's fate sealed by this time, Texas and little bro (TT) pick the Big Ten in part due to its academic reputation but also in part because they don't want to be affiliated with Texas A&M. Also, Texas will feel it will be a big dog in the Big Ten, but just another also-ran in the SEC.

- Oklahoma and little bro choose the SEC.

- Notre Dame finally chooses a conference, going with the Big 10 which now has markets in the NE, MW, mid-atlantic, SE, and Texas.

I think they may stop at 20 teams or 21 with ND but just for fun, lets go a bit further.

- The Big Ten keeps going crazy and adds new markets, Syracuse, BC, and Duke to get to 24

- The SEC has to decide between Pitt, WVU, Wake, Duke, Kansas, KST, Baylor, TCU, Houston

- SEC takes Pitt, WVU, TCU, and Kansas

- Pac 12 takes Baylor, Houston, SMU to gain access to Texas markets plus KST, Iowa State, and UNLV to add new markets

SEC North
Pitt
WVU
Virginia
VT
UNC
NCSU

SEC East
Florida
Georgia
South Carolina
Tennessee
Vanderbilt
Kentucky

SEC South
Alabama
Auburn
Miss
Miss St
LSU
Ark

SEC West
Missouri
Kansas
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Texas A&M
TCU

Big Ten North
BC
Syracuse
RU
PSU
Maryland
Notre Dame

Big Ten South
Duke
Clemson
GT
FSU
Miami
Indiana

Big Ten Central
OSU
MSU
Mich
Purdue
Illinois
Northwestern

Big Ten West
Texas
TT
Nebraska
Iowa
Wisconsin
Minnesota

- I know most will act as if this can never happen but it is basically a foregone conclusion that the Big Ten and SEC will expand again. The only question is how far they need to expand to include Pitt in the plans.

Seriously, does your mind ever shut off thinking about these things or broadcast rights? Wow.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Why not 4 leagues, so you can have a Final 4, Take the 4 conference champs that won their league's title game and leave out subjective selections all together? Each league could have 20, the Power 5 current teams, plus the very best non-P5 teams and relegate the rest to I-AA.

That's the goal of the ACC. Somehow get the TX and OK schools.

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

I think the 30 biggest revenue generators will tell the NCAA to flip off and form A League of Their Own
A federation more like the NFL with a name-only association with the school sponsoring them.

There will be no more nonsense about student athletes; they will be paid and only go to seminars occasionally...

They will conduct their own playoffs and just for stuff and giggles will keep The Rose , Orange , Sugar Fiesta Bowl and Cotton Bowl

The BB tourney will include all Clubs and maybe allow some of the all other schools still participating in Inter Collegiate Athletics.

They will have HUGE amounts of revenue and don't need actually the bottom feeders of the conference in which they currently reside ...

I can either see that happening, or again, the government stepping in (remember kids, there are a lot of votes in those seats) and squashing a lot of this.

I do know this, and Pitt fans don't want to hear this, if there is a contraction to a "SUPER LEAGUE" of the biggest powers, we aren't in it. We are in a dedicated NFL city with an iconic franchise. Pitt football doesn't move an economic needle.

 

[ThePanthers]

That's the goal of the ACC. Somehow get the TX and OK schools.

I don't think that is the goal.