Next year’s IDEAL lineup

[4upmc]

I’d run a Houston style offense. Not as many 3’s, but pass to Hugley, hand/off, fake hand off, dribble at backdoor, hand off, screen, roll etc...

Yes lots you can run out of this after you have the basics down. With the paint being open you have the basic back door on an over play to keep the D honest. And as you said the dribble hand off or fake hand off back door. P/R at different spots etc.

You can run quick hitting pin downs for a shooter like Horton by starting him in the corner spot and if the D is over playing him he can curl into the lane.

When Huggins took over at WVU he actually kept a lot of the O his first year or 2. I remember when Da’Sean Butler would cut down the lane they would have him stop dead mid cut at times and he would seal his man for a quick post up. This action would work for a guy like Justin or Hugley. If it’s not open you just fill the vacated spot on the opposite side you cut from when everyone rotates spots.

 

[Tonyt66]

I totally agree with that offense because they weren't a good shooting team. Now I know Horton can shoot and I think this offense can get him open for more shots and I'm really hoping Justin and Toney are working hard on there shooting and more importantly there handle an I think they can be very successful next year.

I’d run a Houston style offense. Not as many 3’s, but pass to Hugley, hand/off, fake hand off, dribble at backdoor, hand off, screen, roll etc...

 

[Chescat]

These are all good ideas. However until Capel gets all of the players
here and sees what he's got, strengths and weaknesses etc, it's
hard to predict. IMO Hugley is going to be a key. What he can or
cannot do will probably affect Capel' s decision on what he can
run offensively. In that he now has four Bigs, might influence him to
put two of them on the floor at once. That might be the saving grace
for Brown. Of course this won't work unless Hugley is a strong
presence in the paint.
No inside info....just my two cents.

 

[TheChair]

If this is true, his parents are very dumb.
1) the NBA is going smaller and he would be an ideal 4 in today’s NBA in a run and gun system if he could learn how to hit 3’s consistently with his athleticism and defensive prowess
2) he ain’t going to the NBA
3) whatever happened to parents being happy about a free education

I think we can all agree his ceiling is euro pro and a very good career overseas. It’s a shame with increased knowledge parents have found themselves knowing more than the coaches and become selfish for only their kids. Him performing at a high level at the “4” and the team winning would get him further than they think he can get as a “3” and another last place finish.

I do not agree about his ceiling being a Euro pro. He could become an NBA player if his offense continues to improve. He would fit in the NBA on defense as a 2 or 3 and likely could guard some 1s.

I would not at all be surprised to Au'Diese in the NBA in 2-3 years. I also would not be surprised if he was playing in the G-League or somewhere in Europe. But, he 100% has NBA potential. His shot will be the real key for him. If he establishes himself to be the shooter that he showed from January and onward except with a touch more volume, he should be able to have a really legitimate shot at the NBA.

We go down this road too often with Pitt players. Wanamaker, Patterson, Artis ... all guys who on this and other Pitt message boards never had a shot to make the NBA. Lets be patient with Au'Diese but also admit that he already has NBA quality skills on one end of the floor and has enough physical skills to make it.

 

[Chescat]

I do not agree about his ceiling being a Euro pro. He could become an NBA player if his offense continues to improve. He would fit in the NBA on defense as a 2 or 3 and likely could guard some 1s.

I would not at all be surprised to Au'Diese in the NBA in 2-3 years. I also would not be surprised if he was playing in the G-League or somewhere in Europe. But, he 100% has NBA potential. His shot will be the real key for him. If he establishes himself to be the shooter that he showed from January and onward except with a touch more volume, he should be able to have a really legitimate shot at the NBA.

We go down this road too often with Pitt players. Wanamaker, Patterson, Artis ... all guys who on this and other Pitt message boards never had a shot to make the NBA. Lets be patient with Au'Diese but also admit that he already has NBA quality skills on one end of the floor and has enough physical skills to make it.

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Audiese Toney Drops 27 on Duke
Hopefully I linked this right. Toney playing all over the floor, obviously not
just a 4. In this film he looks like NBA material. Can he do it cosistently?

Youtube Audiese Toney Drops 27 on Dukehttps://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Audiese+Toney+drops+27+on+duke

 

[Tonyt66]

I do not agree about his ceiling being a Euro pro. He could become an NBA player if his offense continues to improve. He would fit in the NBA on defense as a 2 or 3 and likely could guard some 1s.

I would not at all be surprised to Au'Diese in the NBA in 2-3 years. I also would not be surprised if he was playing in the G-League or somewhere in Europe. But, he 100% has NBA potential. His shot will be the real key for him. If he establishes himself to be the shooter that he showed from January and onward except with a touch more volume, he should be able to have a really legitimate shot at the NBA.

We go down this road too often with Pitt players. Wanamaker, Patterson, Artis ... all guys who on this and other Pitt message boards never had a shot to make the NBA. Lets be patient with Au'Diese but also admit that he already has NBA quality skills on one end of the floor and has enough physical skills to make it.

With him being 6'5 not only does his shooting need to improve but for him to make it to the next level his handle really has to improve big time. When one of the first things a person says he has to improve is his ball handling believe he knows its weak and I heard coach on the podcast say on Wed that as long as they have a ball they should work on there handle even if they can get shots up right now.

 

[TheChair]

With him being 6'5 not only does his shooting need to improve but for him to make it to the next level his handle really has to improve big time. When one of the first things a person says he has to improve is his ball handling believe he knows its weak and I heard coach on the podcast say on Wed that as long as they have a ball they should work on there handle even if they can get shots up right now.

I get what you are saying, but there are a lot of 3 and D guys in the NBA these days that are not great ballhandlers but know how to be patient, take their time and not play themselves into bad areas. Au'Diese has a strong mental game; I do not view his handle as a major impediment though it certainly could stand to improve.

He shot 35% from 3 in conference play last year. If you isolate his numbers from the start of January in conference play and onward, he shot roughly 37% from 3 in those final 18 conference games (he did miss a few of the games). If he bumps those numbers around 3-4% (he already improved the figures by 8% on the whole of the season from year to year) the shot looks a lot more where it needs to be for him to have a legitimate chance.

 

[Drew1208]

With him being 6'5 not only does his shooting need to improve but for him to make it to the next level his handle really has to improve big time. When one of the first things a person says he has to improve is his ball handling believe he knows its weak and I heard coach on the podcast say on Wed that as long as they have a ball they should work on there handle even if they can get shots up right now.

Yeah him & champ have the same homework.
Ball handling, 3 pt shooting.

 

[Tonyt66]

The eye test tells me he has a lot of work to do before he'll sniff the NBA. IMO if he puts in the work the next 2 years who knows what can happen.

I get what you are saying, but there are a lot of 3 and D guys in the NBA these days that are not great ballhandlers but know how to be patient, take their time and not play themselves into bad areas. Au'Diese has a strong mental game; I do not view his handle as a major impediment though it certainly could stand to improve.

He shot 35% from 3 in conference play last year. If you isolate his numbers from the start of January in conference play and onward, he shot roughly 37% from 3 in those final 18 conference games (he did miss a few of the games). If he bumps those numbers around 3-4% (he already improved the figures by 8% on the whole of the season from year to year) the shot looks a lot more where it needs to be for him to have a legitimate chance.

 

[Tonyt66]

Yes sir but the best thing about it is its up to them and its in reach for both!

Yeah him & champ have the same homework.
Ball handling, 3 pt shooting.