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Narduzzi hated Canada’s offense here. It was too successful
Haha. I was thinking the same thing. Tomlin should pick up the phone and ask Pat for a favor, given Tomlin doesn’t seem to want his friend to be unemployed.
Narduzzi hates offense, period. Its partly why he doesn't recruit it. He wants to win every game 10-7.
Steelers offense has more talent at WR/TE than RB. They need an OC who can get the most out of that and that’s not Canada. Time to find someone from the Shanahan or Pederson couching tree.
As for Pitt, I cannot think any quality Qb or WR recruit is going to want to play in this system. Time to junk Cignetti and find a different path. Personally, I think Walt Harris was on to something with the West Coast offense. Probably not to happen with the almost monopoly of shotgun spread attacks in high school…
That’s for sure. Pitt brass won’t even be thinking about football now. They’ll schedule an hour meeting to discuss it sometime in December right before the office Christmas, whoops I mean Winter Solstice party
It's also an admission of a mistake. Not sure Duzz is capable of that.
I'm not crazy about Cignetti's offense but the QB play has been abysmal. I'm not sure any OC can do much when you can't even complete a simple pass play to sustain a drive but this is his QB that he brought in so it's on him.
But he wanted Phil so that’s his own fault. I do agree no one could help Phil.
Now I think last year is a much more legitimate discussion. That offense should have been significantly better
I’d really like to hear this explanation or narrative of how he didn’t have a choice.
Who were all these experienced transfer QBs wanting to come here?
People are pretending like they could have anything they wanted on the menu, and choose PJ.
It’s more like they are homeless and desperate, digging out of the trash. And this is what was thrown away.
Yeah, it's a multi-faceted problem that ultimately points back to Narduzzi.
By all accounts, this offense is not fun for the players.
But yeah - Phil has to hit wide open crossing routes, etc. and sustain drives.
But why the hell is Phil here in the first place?
And why couldn't we land a solid transfer receiver?
And why are there no other quarterbacks on the roster who are pushing Phil right now?
And who the hell are the long-term QB solutions we're recruiting (hint: none)?
It's just ugly all the way around. And I tend to think that even if the performance this season is 100% on Phil (which it's obviously not), then there is still plenty of blame on Cignetti/Narduzzi for not being able to attract better options - both now and for the future. The cupboard hasn't been this bare in some time.
Ok you confirmed what I figured. It’s not like PJ was forced on him and he had no choice, it’s just that you think there were no better choices out there for him to select.
So you original statement was false or at a minimum 100% misleading. There were definitely choices.
Just my thoughts:
I think the lack of success and inability to sustain drives is the main correlation to the lack of fun.
Phil was supposedly brought in to push Slovis. Slovis wasn't open to the idea of competition.
I think they feel they are okay at receiver. The brought in Reynolds.
The thing I find most concerning is the hesitation to move on from Phil. There is zero upside to continue to play Jurkovec. He needs to have Veilleux or Yarnell ready play. I don't expect it to be pretty. I just want to see progress.
Yes. If you took my post to mean the PA legislature passed a law requiring Pitt to take PJ in the portal, then I apologize.
It wasn't misleading at all. I think anyone reading it knew exactly what he meant. You would have to be totally oblivious to the context not to
Slovis was long gone before Phil ever came here. Narduzzi actually wanted Slovis back, but Slovis did not want to come back. Slovis was gone before the bowl practices, but his mind was made up before then.
Exactly.
The “this was their hand picked QB” narrative would make sense if they were landing guys at other positions in the portal.
But they struck out across the board.
They took an athlete with almost no experience just to get some higher end talent in the RB room.
Struck out at WR.
And people are wondering why they “choose” a big nothing at QB? For the same reason they choose a big nothing across the offensive board.
I think they looked at the offense as a whole and realized they needed some high end talent at QB.
That this offense wasn’t a distributor away from being good.
And that kind of talent wasn’t in the QB room. And so got who they could actually get that could hopefully bring that.
Assumption based on the relationship and timing. I don't know that they targeted a lot of other guys given the transfer happened in early December just a few days after Phil went into the portal. Felt pretty automatic.
He’s going to be lucky to have any qb’s on the roster after this season. Why would anyone want to stick around?
If it wasn’t misleading then it was just plain stupid, like PJ was the only choice he had. Give me a break, that’s really setting the bar low for his choices.
No, I was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt, suggesting that PN or some donor with big NIL $ was forcing PJ on him.
But guess not, it really was a stupid comment by you. Unless you for got to complete your post, it wasn’t his only choice, it was the only choice he considered or looked into.
Unfortunately he has NEVER had a defense to win that way. His "defensive genius " reputation is a myth both here and at MSU.
PJ was a guy he had success with at BC and knew the system. Pitt had nobody on campus ready to step in as starter. Don't know what happened to Phil, but he clearly isn't the same guy Pitt faced back in 2000.
I don't know if they were in on any other QBs or not, but I would assume they whiffed on few and PJ was deemed the best available to help out for 2023. I don't think they even look to take PJ if were anything more than to fill a one-year gap where they are just really thin at QB.
Again, this is a good thing. None of them are ACC level. 75% of the roster needs to be gone
Can't say that with any certainty about QBs. Just because they aren't today doesn't mean won't be in the future.
If Pitt had a QB, even a mediocre QB that was game ready, they would be 4-1 right now. So your 75% comment is hyperbole.
Villeaux looked much worse than Phil.....and he is the backup so its extemely possible that he is indeed worse than Phil. And Phil is an FCS or D2 level QB. And Yarnell is behind Villeaux so, again, its very possible that Yarnell is worse than Villeaux.
Pitt needs to clean house and get rid of most of their roster. They dont have much ACC level talent. They need to try to get lucky in the portal and sell early playing time since they wont have any players.
I don't think you can make a full evaluation of either of the backups without a week of practice that allows them to play with first teamers. Evaluating them when they are put in during a crushing defeat is meaningless.
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