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I also like to see investment in public transportation but, as someone who rides the bus to and from Oakland somewhat frequently, this strikes me as an inconsequential upgrade. I would have much preferred an expansion of the T to serve Oakland. I would really like to see a leader make a hard push to get the T to the airport and to Oakland, but I know the numbers are daunting.
an expansion would have been fantastic and i think was studied. remember an article in post gazette a few years back on this topic and they were talking about going underground at times under 5th and somehow looping it around hazelwood.
I remember hearing a cost figure around that number, too. The loop to Hazelwood isn't all that necessary in my eyes, but I would like for someone to show me a better stretch of roadway in all of America more deserving of an underground subway than 5th Ave in Oakland between Craft and Bellefield, that doesn't already have one. How many people have to die from getting hit by buses before someone in leadership thinks "gee, what a great idea it would be to put public transportation along this road underground!"
agree and tell upmc to foot the bill. they want to build yet another monstrosity on forbes in middle of oakland and have numerous outpatient and office buildings in oakland, they need to get the bill.
good point. i hear rapid transit i think of those things at wvu or that elevated rail thingy in south park back in early 80s. this is a bus with 44 stops in a route that cant be 4 miles long from end to end.
It would be worth the investment to spend to develop an expansive light rail system. Public transportation is such an asset to a city. I always found this concept an interesting take on what the T could look like.
It is. The 44 stops span everywhere from downtown, uptown, Oakland, Squirrel Hill, Greenfield, Shadyside, East Liberty/Friendship, and Highland Park. They’re eliminating a bunch of stops and significantly improving the remaining ones. If you’ve been in Oakland lately and have seen the new bus station outside of Presby on Fifth, they’ll all look pretty close to that.
Nonsense. These projects go through levels of planning with professional transportation and economic development people, and public input. To think that the Rooney’s have some special ability to determine the outcomes is just engaging in a conspiracy theory.
People focus on time savings, but more important is reliability. Riders need to depend on buses to be on time, and this project will make that more of a reality. It is not perfect, but given the funding constraints, it is likely as good as any other option for this corridor.
I don’t know how much of it is a sheer time savings, versus eliminating as many of the “slowdown” points as possible that can cause things to jam up and run behind schedule. So things like dedicated lanes, special traffic signals that give buses the right of way, fewer stations with more amenities to get people on and off faster, all might help decrease trip times...but the real benefit is keeping things more predictable and on schedule.
Correct. But don't let the cat out of the bag. It's the bestest thing evar.
RIP Garfield.. welcome back skeletons in rocking chairsmaybe they could use underground boats?
What are the slowdown points between downtown and Oakland? Is it coming inbound down Fifth during Penguin games or something like that? I somewhat regularly ride the bus to get to and from Oakland, although not all the time, so it's very possible I just haven't experienced it, but it seems like the trip is already pretty reliable ... much more reliable than many other PAT bus routes I've taken.
Lol
Plenty ride buses and public transportation -
public busses are awful, awful, horrid experiences. i've ridden T a zillion times and actually like it (i always lived in south hills so was always close to a stop) but bus lines are beyond depessing. the few times i've had to endure riding a bus in pittsburgh, it truly made me question what im doing on this earth..
