Very desirable if you want to walk by a soup kitchen,or a drug rehab house, or hear gunshots any time of the day. Lets not forget about the Garden theatre. I know someone who bought one of the new townhouses on Federal and they hear gunshots on a regular basis, they are selling. Maybe they will get $500,000.
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I was going to post the same type of comment, but the last time I was in that part of town was 10 or so years ago.
People were doing drugs in the Allegheny Commons park; prostitutes were on the street corners in broad daylight; and weird people (think Pee Wee Herman) were coming out of the XXX theater.
For people who were paying attention, long before the stadium was built and was still in the planning stages one of the Rooneys, I'm pretty sure it was St. Dan, said that the ultimate goal was for there to be less than 1,000 tailgaiting spaces on the North Side.
It's been heading this way since day one. Or actually since before day one.
I agree put all the Steelers tailgates on top of the Duquesne Incline instead of the low river country so they can crawl to the Heinz field which some do.
Lets see how that works out??
There was an after hours bar right by the park called “Johnny Adams.” We used to go in mid 90s. Was this door, no signs, nothing, just knocked and they’d let you in and you’d walk upstairs and it would open up to this huge room with a bar.
Think you’d pay 20 and they’d just walk around with plastic cups of beer. What a mess. Guess when you were 19-20, 2am is just too early to stop.
Something tells me Swervin never thought that far ahead back then. Just a hunch.
I understand. I just really never saw it as a game changer. That's all. I've had to show up at games last minute because of travel and I've tailgated. Never thought twice about it.
Well, there was that time a Steeler fan smacked that woman around. But I honestly cannot recall ever attending a Steelers game and not witnessing a fight that involved someone in the visiting teams jersey.
If you go to an nfl game wearing an opposing jersey, you have a 50% chance of getting into a physical altercation.
Pushing and getting sworn at is inevitable but to avoid actual fist fight, you have to actively avoid it. I went to a ravens v Steeler game years ago wearing a Steeler jersey. Made the mistake of bringing a girl and not being with a bunch of guys.
I had to avoid eye contact, move quick, keep cheering down. All that crap.
I didn't or wouldn't say i'd never ever go to another Pitt football game again if/when we can no longer have a regular tailgate. But that's kind of a condition for me to continue to buy season tickets and plan for attending most or all the games, as I do now.
We're no party organizers or anything but we do put a bit of thought and planning into ours.
One guy always has his weird IPA he insists on, another has the weird brand of rum he likes, they all think I'm weird because I like banana peppers for the burgers ... someone has the best portable grill, but if he can't make it early that game, can the backup person bring his grill, or can someone swing by the other guys house to get the good one; same for the cornhole board. Who is making the Costco run, the distributor run, the Italian Village pickup on the way, or whatever. Maybe most critically, who has the tunes mix.
Some will inevitably say "is that really better / less hassle than going to a NS bar before a game", and having done both, I still say unequivocally, yes. Our routine adds signficantly to our fun. Especially if the foundation for it is a freaking Delaware game. Do I imagine buying a ticket and trekking to the NS at the minute for a Delaware game in the future if it hadn't been part of the package and thus inked into the calendar in advance? Honestly no.
THIS^^^ If there is no tailgating, there is no reason to go, watch on TV, grill and drink in the back yard before the game. What? Fight through traffic, more difficult to park, then get to your seat right at kickoff totally sober? Then not really see the game because it's harder to watch in person? If there's no PARTY, no use going. Uh, no. sadly tailgating is the MAIN REASON people go in person, if they end that. I won't be going anymore.
That wasn't bad though, went there after a Steelers game last year and hung out for like 4 hours, although it was with a stock broker friend who has a locker there and had a reserved table for us, it was actually nice, but then again, it's not something I'd do regularly.
I was on that list, my number came up and I was offered 2 tickets in that new EZ section, with $4k/per seat license, I turned it down, I don't care THAT much anymore, plus, if there is no tailgating and way less parking, I don't want to go anyways. I don't go for the game, I go for the PARTY, if it's just a game, I can watch on TV.
Hell no! a nice bar where you have to stand in line for an $8 beer and wait 15 minutes instead of just having a cooler to reach into?
Tailgating is the only reason I go, to hang out with friends I don't see often and drink heavily, if it was just about watching the game it's way better on TV.
Not exactly, it's way easier to drink more at a pregame tailgate than a packed bar before a game. At the bar, you swill down the 12 oz. beer and then fight through a line of wall to wall people to get the next on, you could have drank 2 more within the time it takes to even get the next beer sometimes.
Really, I've been to about 60-70 Steelers games, I only remember seeing 4-5 fights total.
I guess my point was, it's possibly a less desirable destination without the football attraction. My observation is that the near North Side is a ghost town without a ballgame or concert of some kind.
The humidor and cigar selection is nice, but I bring my own. I just thought the bar wasn't some place that I enjoyed having a drink. Drinks weren't great and the beer selection sucked. Literally the only reason to go there is to smoke a cigar, which is fine, but I also enjoy drinking.
That day, I drank this whiskey barrel beer the whole time and loved it, it was like drinking boilermakers. It was something they had on tap.
Yes Kentucky Bourbon Barrel Ale. I know this because I have tried the place a couple of times and the beer selection is exactly the same each time.
Yeah, being able to get sloshed fast at my own tailgate isn't a reason I'd cite for preferring tailgating (anymore
), but slow/ poor service in the bars is definitely a reason i'd cite, and the two certainly could be related for those looking for that. I'll admit in younger days a faster buzz certainly was more of an objective. Recent years, i'd often just as rather have a good mug of coffee, especially the early morning tailgates...
I'm 60 and I still want to pound beers at tailgates, it's a good excuse to do that, I don't do it every dayYeah, being able to get sloshed fast at my own tailgate isn't a reason I'd cite for preferring tailgating (anymore
I'd go again, just to drink that beer and smoke a cigar, but no, I don't think I'd be a regular customer, it's nice occasionally to do something like that.
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