Mike Trout got half a billion for 12 years. Judge is 30 but given inflation levels, is it crazy if he gets a billion over 10-12 years? If so, can you send this to Message Board Geniuses?
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1. How much is he going to get? I dare you to answer. You wont. I would say 10 years/$600 million to be safeThis might be the dumbest thread you've ever made, and that's saying something.
these contracts are crazy and honestly, with baseball being so analytical, im surprised they are still rising. Trout is making like 35m a year, his WAR is 4. wouldnt you rather have two really good players at 17.5m a year or 3 good players at 11m a year vs putting so much into one player who gives you 4 wins a year?
it just doesnt make sense to me to pay one player that much. even in a salary cap - free league..
Trout's WAR is 6, he hit 40 home runs. And he only played 119 gamesthese contracts are crazy and honestly, with baseball being so analytical, im surprised they are still rising. Trout is making like 35m a year, his WAR is 4. wouldnt you rather have two really good players at 17.5m a year or 3 good players at 11m a year vs putting so much into one player who gives you 4 wins a year?
it just doesnt make sense to me to pay one player that much. even in a salary cap - free league..
48 million a year is already outrageous. 100 million a year is ……uh no!Mike Trout got half a billion for 12 years. Judge is 30 but given inflation levels, is it crazy if he gets a billion over 10-12 years? If so, can you send this to Message Board Geniuses?
Trout's WAR is 6, he hit 40 home runs. And he only played 119 games
im not saying he's not good, just saying that it's such an incredible investment in one player when you could spread it out to 2 or even 3 really good players..Trout's WAR is 6, he hit 40 home runs. And he only played 119 games
im not saying he's not good, just saying that it's such an incredible investment in one player when you could spread it out to 2 or even 3 really good players..
How are the Angels doing??? They have done great with both Trout and Ohtani? All those playoff wins.Mike Trout has had seven seasons over 7 WAR and two others very close (including this season). Judge has had two...his rookie season and this year (his contract year). And Trout has played a more valuable position (CF vs RF) over that period, though I understand his time in center is largely over.
Judge has had an epic season but he's not in the same category as Trout at the time of his contract.
Idk but I can't wait to see how the Angels miss the playoffs with Trout, Ohtani, Syndergaard, Rendon and Judge.
is it crazy if he gets a billion over 10-12 years?
Syndergaard just doesn’t have the juice anymore, and Rendon hasn’t been able to stay close to healthy.Idk but I can't wait to see how the Angels miss the playoffs with Trout, Ohtani, Syndergaard, Rendon and Judge.
Trout got $426million over 12 years when he was 26 years old. In the previous 7 seasons he won the MVP twice, was runner-up four times, and was 4th in voting once. His average WAR during the prior three seasons was 9.1.1. How much is he going to get? I dare you to answer. You wont. I would say 10 years/$600 million to be safe
2. Can we send this to Message Board geniuses if its such a dumb question?
One trout contract nets you two alex Bergmans or two Charlie Mortons. I’d rather have a guy who hasn’t had an ops lower than 939 in a full season of his career. trout is a monster and consistently a monsterim not saying he's not good, just saying that it's such an incredible investment in one player when you could spread it out to 2 or even 3 really good players..
Again, what has the Angels won with Trout??One trout contract nets you two alex Bergmans or two Charlie Mortons. I’d rather have a guy who hasn’t had an ops lower than 939 in a full season of his career. trout is a monster and consistently a monster
What do the analytics say about 1 baseball player's impact on wins and losses? How many wins is an all-time great like Trout or Judge responsible for? If you take them off a team, how many fewer games are won? Baseball is an individual sport like golf but with a team component like the Ryder Cup. One baseball player or one golfer does not impact a team like a star QB, basketball player, etc. But they are paid like it.How are the Angels doing??? They have done great with both Trout and Ohtani? All those playoff wins.
These are team sports, shouldn't winning be important.
SMF makes a very good point. Of course they use "WAR" as this metric, but again a CF who may have 4-5 at bats in a game and 6-7 plays in the field no way can impact a game like a QB or even a rush LB or any basketball starter or hockey player, especially goalie. Only a pitcher has that impact, and he only goes every 5 games (20%).What do the analytics say about 1 baseball player's impact on wins and losses? How many wins is an all-time great like Trout or Judge responsible for? If you take them off a team, how many fewer games are won? Baseball is an individual sport like golf but with a team component like the Ryder Cup. One baseball player or one golfer does not impact a team like a star QB, basketball player, etc. But they are paid like it.
Again, what has the Angels won with Trout??
It is a shame, but for guys like Judge and Trout, there only chance of winning is going to the Dodgers or Yankees. Just going after the biggest pay day doesn't do it.
Yeah, they signed a bunch of guys who were on the bad end of the age curve to big contracts, and then got unlucky with pretty much all of them.The Angels aren't bad because of the Trout contract. They are bad because all of the other bad contracts they've signed. They've depleted the farm system over the years due to trading, etc...and ended up in a point where the only way to put a team around Trout was free agency. And they went about it very poorly. They should have been looking for lesser, but still very high talent, like Starling Marte or KeBryan Hayes to give a few Pirates examples. Instead they were always in the running to sign every big free agent like Pujols and Rendon.
The 6-7 plays in the field are largely irrelevant. How many more games would the Pirates have won with Judge or Trout. I would say 5-10. On a good team like the Yankees, Judge or Trout may only be solely responsible for 3-5 wins.SMF makes a very good point. Of course they use "WAR" as this metric, but again a CF who may have 4-5 at bats in a game and 6-7 plays in the field no way can impact a game like a QB or even a rush LB or any basketball starter or hockey player, especially goalie. Only a pitcher has that impact, and he only goes every 5 games (20%).
So WAR is somewhat a way overrated stat.
Correct. He will be making huge bucks at 41 and 42 and may not even be an all-star but its what you have to pay to get him to play for you in his 30sHe’s today’s Albert Pujols. He’s gonna get a huge contract. But far before that contract expires he won’t be worth near whatever he ends up getting.
they have trout and ohtani and cant win. two of the best 3 players in baseball. Like i said, putting all your eggs in one (or two) baskets doesnt win you divisions..Again, what has the Angels won with Trout??
It is a shame, but for guys like Judge and Trout, there only chance of winning is going to the Dodgers or Yankees. Just going after the biggest pay day doesn't do it.
I think the reason why analytics work so well in baseball is because its an individual sport.The thing is, the original "fantasy" sport was baseball, because it is made for day to day analysis of statistics. And so many of these guys are stats collectors. But again, it is almost individual as a sport and it isn't fantasy
SMF makes a very good point. Of course they use "WAR" as this metric, but again a CF who may have 4-5 at bats in a game and 6-7 plays in the field no way can impact a game like a QB or even a rush LB or any basketball starter or hockey player, especially goalie. Only a pitcher has that impact, and he only goes every 5 games (20%).
So WAR is somewhat a way overrated stat.
they have trout and ohtani and cant win. two of the best 3 players in baseball. Like i said, putting all your eggs in one (or two) baskets doesnt win you divisions..
You were close...Mike Trout got half a billion for 12 years. Judge is 30 but given inflation levels, is it crazy if he gets a billion over 10-12 years? If so, can you send this to Message Board Geniuses?