OT: No doubt Pitt would blow their doors off, but...
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They have a good team, depth and are very well coached.
The A10 will answer your questions regarding a weak schedule. It is safe to assume that had they played Louisville and FSU they would have lost.
But they can protect the rim and the WVU game on a neutral floor would have been a toss up
pitt would likely win (id say 60-40 chances), but Pitt would not blow duquesne's doors off if they played 100 times.
Sagarin has WVU as an 89.59, Pitt and Duquesne are 80.53 and 80.46, respectively.
Duquesne would not be a pick-em against WVU, even if the game were played at Duquesne.
They are much better and deserve a lot of credit for being 8-0 at this point no matter who they have played.
In saying that, they did this last year as well to then finish under .500 in A10 play. They have played no one to this point so they should be undefeated.
In saying that, they did this last year as well to then finish under .500 in A10 play. They have played no one to this point so they should be undefeated.
Have they played anybody as good as Nichols? Asking for a friend.
The interesting thing, or odd thing, or whatever you want to call it, is that even though Duquesne isn't really playing any "true" home games this year because of the Palumbo Center renovations, they also still haven't actually played a road game yet either. They've played five "home" games and three true neutral site games. And their next four games are also true neutral site games. They don't actually play their first away game until January 8 when they play at St. Joe's.
Is Palumbo going to be updated in time for the A10 conference season or do that have an 'alternate' home location for the entire year? Are they playing at PPG? Apologies for my ignorance.
We didn’t play Duquesne (ranked 68) this season. However, they are not even remotely close to WVU (34th). Their comp is Pitt (73rd).
If you want to talk about a Pitt vs Dukes game my only answer is Pitt can lose to anyone on their schedule this year easily. There isn't a single "oh we got this" game. They are that bad on offense even with decent defense.
Palumbo is not going to be ready. They are splitting their home games up. So far they've played one game at PPG and the other four at La Roche College. Their conference games are split between PPG and Robert Morris' new place.
I'm basing it off the game the two played against each other in Morgantown and the play of the two teams since then.
Pitt certainly can lose to anyone if they don't show up to play. But Pitt also is 7-3 with 5 P5 wins already to this point including beating Florida St and Kansas St two decent to good teams. And they played pretty well against Louisville until the garbage foul call and Technical with 5 minutes left.
Again, I am not trying to knock Duquense at all. For them, this is much improvement from their historical level and a great start.
But before we start comparing them to Pitt, let them actually beat some decent teams. Their schedule is beyond bad to this point. They have won exactly 1 game in the last 19 years against Pitt and that is the year Artis and Young got suspended right before the game.
I looked up their record last year and they were 10-8 in Atlantic 10 play. Them beating anyone even low level teams, is an improvement. Looking at their schedule, their best wins are Indiana St. out of the MVC, and Lamar, which plays in the same conference a Nichols St. and were picked to finish ahead of them. You can basically say the Dukes have taken care of business. An NIT matchup is not out of the question, and would be kind of fun.
this isn't true. maybe to start the season, but you can pencil in the rest of the non conference in as Ws.
You are right. I thought they were 8-10 for some reason. They still finished 7th.
And I am not trying to diminish what they have done. Just think it is silly for people to try and act like they would beat Pitt because they have beat some cupcakes.
Duquesne's schedule (including the A10) is so weak, they would have to go something like 24-8 to make the NIT
Actually the A10 is pretty good this year (the top half anyway). They were awful last year, but have bounced back. Dayton is the real deal. St. Joe's is dreadful. How on earth did UConn lose to them at home?
I'm not an expert on Wvu BB like Columbus is but I was at the scrimmage in Motown. I thought Duquesne played well and will do well in conference play.Wvu only won by 8 and Huggy was playing to win.The Mounties pounded them pretty good on the boards and in the paint that night.Duquesne's guards more than held their own in this one..I left impressed with the little Dukies.bwdik I'm a retired public school teacher!
Helping prepare the next generation! Always a good thing. Maybe that's why we tolerate you
. Actually, well behaved posters from other programs who aren't trolls are usually a plus for a message board. You're ok in my book!
Dambrot can coach and I'll presume both teams are better now, but Maceo has a high ceiling.
1. You’re a jag.
2. It was the first scrimmage of the season. It was exactly as I said...very much like a practice. Huggs didn’t play everyone their representative minutes. I never said Duquesne wasn’t good. I simply said they aren’t to the level of WVU (talent and depth-wise). I don’t care what the score of the game was. St John’s isn’t either and they just beat us! There’s a reason teams like Pitt and Duquesne are located in KenPom where they’re located.
First rule of credibility. When your first argument is to name call, you've branded yourself a whiner.
Ignore button.
Pizza poster purports to be a WVU fan. He posts always acting as a 2nd rate poster because he’s a “WVU fan”. His posts are filled with grammatical errors, failed punctuation, etc. I call BS. Likely just a Pitt fan attempting to appear as a Mountaineer fan.
Honestly both of you goons should stop posting here. Just go away. I'm guessing whatever board WVU has there is a handful of Pitt guys there equally as stupid. I've seen it on other boards as well. Idiot Pitt fans pleading their cases to other fan bases.
check his posts out on the UPS board, he isn't very kind to Pitt when among the cult, so I doubt he's a Panther
Columbus at least I know my intellectual level and realize I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed! A problem a lot of people have is they overvalue themselves, that's a hint! Sorry about my grammar I weren't a English major,plus I'm a terrible spelar.Columbus I'm sure you're going to the Wvu game today so stop over to section127 and ask anyone where Pizzaboy is.Don't worry I'll pay for the beer two!
California you are correct I post on BWI and always as a Wvu fan.Like here they know I'm a Wvu fan.I can't remember some of my post on there (alcohol), but I bet I never ripped into the Pitt program.I'm not saying. I never put some fuel on their hate for Pitt fire.
I dislike Pitt. But I honestly don’t respect Penn St at all. I’d back a Panther any day of the week versus one of those whacko PSU disciples. PSU isn’t a rival like Pitt and I still respect Pitt infinitely more.
I’m not sure if it’s me being young enough to not even recall the last time Duquesne made the NCAAT (looked it up now and geez it’s been nearly 43 years, well before i was born) but I generally root for them to do well against anyone besides Pitt. Not sure how popular that opinion is.
To speak ill on them I will say while they may be improved it does seem like they are the beneficiaries of an easy schedule... and I’m not too crazy about their new branding/logo. Weird looking “D”.
Are you being serious? Marshall plays Duquesne right after OSU/WVU? I had zero idea that was happening. Yes, I’ll be in CLE with my bro and 4 friends/alum. I have zero interest in Duquesne (not from Pittsburgh) or Marshall (not from southern WV). From Morgantown. Mountaineers, Steelers, Penguins and Pirates (wish Burkle/Mario could buy from Nutless).
I'm pretty much the same way. Robert Morris too. It was harder to be a fan of both back when they basically were on the same level, but with Pitt playing at the top level, the Dukes at the second level, and Robert Morris at maybe the fourth level, it's pretty easy to pull for all of them. I haven't really followed the Dukes closely because they've been so bad. If they keep winning, I might have to check their schedule, and if there's a big game, and Pitt is idle, I might go check em out. Does that make me a bandwagon fan; probably. Might go out and check out Robert Morris' new digs as well. I had started following RMU pretty closely when they had that nice run of seasons a while back, but since they've fallen off, I haven't paid much attention. Never root for Penn St. in any sport. As for WVU, because the BE was always under siege in football from the critics, I pulled hard for them in all of their bowl games. I enjoyed 13-9 of course, but then I had no problem enjoying watching them smash Oklahoma a month later. I actually became a fan of Youngstown St. back when they were stacking national championships under Jim Tressel, and was disappointed that Pitt never gave him a sniff when they hired Walt.
I was a Duquesne fan growing up, late 60s and early 70s and still root for them when they are not playing pitt. Dukes had good teams back in those days. Would love to see them come back but they have a tough road. Storming Norman Nixon is one of my favorite all time college basketball players. I played against Bb Flannery in high school and the thug Gambridge brothers and Richard Cotten in many summer league battles.
I remember the thug Huggins running BB flannerys head into the basketball post. Bb likely deserved it.
I remember the thug Huggins running BB flannerys head into the basketball post. Bb likely deserved it.
Duquesne vs Marshall game will start 30 minutes after the Wvu/TOSU game ends.
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