OT: Only one team has higher odds of landing Sanders.
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Yeah, hard pass.
Agree. McCord next to visit.
I kinda like the idea of Jaxon Dart.
I have a bad feeling that they're not only going to take a mid QB but also that they'll trade up to do it.
Hopefully these guys are better than what the experts are saying about them, because two first round picks in four years devoted to underwhelming quarterbacks would begin to approach Cleveland Browns territory. Not exactly good company.
Hopefully these guys are better than what the experts are saying about them, because two first round picks in four years devoted to underwhelming quarterbacks would begin to approach Cleveland Browns territory. Not exactly good company.
You are also drafting Deion. Do they realize that?
They are taking a DL.
They are taking a DL.
Not an original thought, but the only way to get the next guy is to be bad enough to get someone that's Tomlin proof. Someone that's talent is just so over whelming, no amount of offensive ineptitude or organizational dysfunction can stunt their growth. No one in this draft is that guy.
Oh, I know. Will be a complete sh!t show. From the boldly stupid move up to reach for him in the draft to the inevitable circus when Deion ends up on the sidelines. Personally, I'm looking forward to it because it will finally tank the franchise to the point they have to make some drastic and otherwise unthinkable moves.
I would enjoy Joey Porter Sr beating deion's ass on the sideline.
Shedeur would be the dumbest pick ever. Deion wants to get him paid and this is his best chance before people see his true ability. But I can’t see any way that 10 years from now he is a top QB in the league. Physically, mentally, emotionally, whatever…I don’t think he has it.
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Are you kidding? The Steelers and Tomlin love that kind of stuff.
The Steelers should trade down and acquire extra picks that might enable them to trade up in next years draft when there might be better QB options.
That's probably what they should have done when they took Pickett because what they really needed really wasn't there.
Tomlin loves Shadeur so we are rumored to be a serious contender. If only we had a real GM and not an internal accountant as a gm (in name only) then the HC wouldnt have 100% say on who we draft..
I swear Colbert went Kevin Stallings mode in his final years and only watched college games at Heinz Field. Conner, Pickett, Rudolph, Washington, Ryan Switzer... surprised he didn't ask Mardy Gilyard to be the special teams coach.
It makes so much sense to trade Watt, trade Pickens, and maybe even trade down in this year's draft to pick up a late 2nd or early 3rd to substitute for the 2nd we traded away. Then don't sign Rogers, so that A) Our compensatory formula nets us even more draft picks and B) We can have a worse season and obtain a higher slot in 2026.
I understand this is a bit extreme, perhaps to a point of being slightly childish, but if we do all of these things we can bring in such an influx of young talent that the fortunes of this franchise could turn around instantly. We likely wouldn't even have to trade up to get a QB next season, because we'd be in a good enough spot already. Start getting ready for the new generation, instead of clinging to some faint hope of maybe squeaking out a wildcard win.
Or we can just keep on doing what we're doing.
If you have enough draft capital, you don't even have to "tank" to have the flexibility to make a move. Heck, if you do things right, you might even be able to grab a FA QB that isn't older than some of the coaches.
Yeah, I wouldn't be entirely opposed to scooping up a FA QB if and when we stop paying Watt $35M/year to guess pass every play and blow past the running back.
My philosophy, if you want to be championship caliber, is that you either strike gold and find one of the 5 or so best quarterbacks in the world, or you build up a juggernaut team and plug in a QB who is solid/good... whichever adjective you want to use to describe guys on the Purdy/Hurts/late-career Brady level.
Personally, I like the idea of building up the team around a QB better than trying to part with a bunch of capital to go all in on a hopeful star. It feels like the Eagles' depth is so impressive that they could be good for a long time... and, at some point, probably clear Hurts' contract off the books and go with someone cheaper while not skipping a beat.
Yeah for sure. Except it’s 2 years later than we should have with Watt and Minkah.
(Let’s not forget that trading for Minkah might have already cost us our franchise QB if you’re to believe Herbert is one).
And the George Pickens trade talk on these boards only started, what, 8 months ago? Or has it been longer? Souf would know, as he dug in his high heels against it.
Agreed, but it's better late than never (I mean, unless you'd only get a return similar to what you'd get as a compensatory pick anyway).
The better franchises have stayed ahead of the curve by knowing when to part with big-time players who still had some meat on the bone. The Brady Era Patriots wrote the book on it. But the Eagles did it with Wentz and some others; the Chiefs did it with Hill; etc.
Between the Penguins and Steelers, however, Pittsburgh has become the Swan Song City.
i think steelers fans and media are way off on the trade value that Watt will give you on the open market. Steelers fans believing we'll get multiple first rd picks are out of their minds. even getting one First rd pick is extremely unlikely.
At best it would be a 2nd round pick and maybe a later rd pick too. a team is only going to get him for one year, they arent giving away future first rd picks for a 31 year old DE who will give you one year..
I think the steelers will let him finish out his contract here, not trade him and take the PR hit that would come from it, maybe negotiate a next contract but with what he will most likely be asking, not come close to signing him. That way he finished out his contract here, rooney doenst get fans blasting him for trading away a legend and he gets over-paid by another team. its a Win -win scenario.
Yeah, I have no delusions about what Watt would fetch in return. I was thinking a 2nd and a 4th. As FK mentioned, this should have been done two years ago. At one point, he would have yielded two first round picks and maybe something else, also. Those days are long gone.
They need to send Watt packing. I don’t remember but I’m pretty sure the Bills gave up capital for an aging Von Miller. Watt can still be a bigger asset for the Steelers off the field than he is on the field. But they won’t do it.
The mediocre high priced Tomlin led defense can still be ranked in the bottom 3rd in the league in YPG without Watt.
Edit: miller was traded for a 2nd and 3rd
Tomlin is desperately trying to end that playoff winless streak, and he'll have no issues with mortgaging a few more seasons of this franchise's future to do so. Taking a step back for just one season can drastically alter the course for the better of this organization, but he won't do it because that .500 or better streak is the last piece of ground he has to stand on.
Trading pickens, i go back and forth on..
One one side, i think if you can get a 2nd rd, you do it, use that pick to draft a WR and you basically traded out a head case on his last year of contract for a rookie with 4 years of control under a rookie contract.
the only problem with this is we have a very spotty history of drafting wrs. we seem to find the biggest head cases or busts in the draft and draft them. it's almost frightening how inept we are with drafting wrs..
On flip side, i am tempted to see what pickens can do now that he's back as a #2 wr and not getting double teamed every play since we finally have a wr opposite of him who opposing defenses will actually respect...
Von Miller was 32 years old when he was traded from the Denver Broncos to the Los Angeles Rams on November 1, 2021. At the time, he was in the final year of a six-year, $114.1 million contract extension signed with the Broncos in 2016, with a base salary of $17.5 million for the 2021 season. The Broncos agreed to pay $9 million of his remaining salary, while the Rams covered the rest, making the trade financially feasible for Los Angeles.
Pickens never once played with a viable WR opposite of him. Just look ant how bad Johnson was when he left. He was an jabroni. And Carl Jr still didn’t run routes half the time. Imagine how easy it was to play in a secondary against the Steelers the past 3 years.
It's tough to predict what we would get with only one year left on his contract. I don't think it'd be as high as a 2nd though. Only getting a 5th for Deebo Samuel is kind of discouraging.
I agree him and Metcalf on either side is intriguing. But intriguing doesn't make us a championship contender. I just think this franchise has a tendency to not be realistic with itself.
i dont disagree with this and that's what makes me think keeping pickens for his last year wouldnt be terrible. we obviously cant sign him so this is it for him but still will be fun to watch (I hope)..
Ehh…yeah but what would it yield? When the ceiling is a wild card game, I’m not interested.
I agree that TJ should be traded. Anyone thinking that he would fetch a 1st round pick is delusional maybe a 2nd or a 3rd pick. IMO they need to rebuild the defense first DT CB OLB. Wilson looks like he’s going to be good and take over for Highsmith when his contract is up.
Drafting Sanders in the 1st round doesn’t help right now
Drafting Sanders in the 1st round doesn’t help right now
yield actual winning results? no, most likely not..
get a few first downs and make me not want to throw my f'in TV Thru my window every sunday like i have for the last 3 years because i was forced to watch the most inept passing offense in the history of the nfl with that abortion of an offense dating back to 2021?
maybe..
Pickens is supposed to be a true #1 who doesn't need anyone opposite of him to draw coverage away. But even if he isn't, just quitting on routes and taking plays off won't be helped by having anyone better on the other side. Just means he's going to lose targets and that will just make him worse.
What you said about Pickens and losing targets and quitting on routes seems like it’s going to result in more tantrums from Pickens. This type of play will end up hurting having 2 good WR. Of course Tomlin will defend Pickens. The issue with Pickens is everyone knew of behavior before he was drafted and Tomlin has never done anything to help him to play the game the right way. They should trade him now while he has value to get at least a 3rd round pick. Keeping him around doesn’t help this team
If he falls that far it’s an absolutely no brainer to take him .
There is a lot of DT depth and no real stars
There is a lot of DT depth and no real stars
You folks may as well get mentally prepared
Money in a small extension for Pickens soon
I'm not sure a QB that wasn't even invited to the draft would be a no brainer. If what you're saying is true, the no brainer move would be to trade back.
