OT: STEELERS vs RAVENS

[King Of All Message Boards]

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Of course they don’t. There have been been many of us saying there’s no chance they’ll let him go.

If by some chance he wakes up one day and wants to leave then that’s another matter. But firing, right after an extension? If you think they should, fine. If you though they would, you’re out of your mind.

 

[pittiswhereiamfrom2]

Of course they don’t. There have been been many of us saying there’s no chance they’ll let him go.

If by some chance he wakes up one day and wants to leave then that’s another matter. But firing, right after an extension? If you think they should, fine. If you thought they would, you’re out of your mind.

If it weren’t for fear of being a loser with two teams, why wouldn’t he want out now.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

There’s a reason the Broncos were willing to dump Russ and eat the salary. We saw part of it yesterday. He’s a midget who can no longer scramble to buy time. He can’t see the middle of the field now that he’s not as mobile so he’s limited to chucking it down the sideline and short dump offs outside

The other reason they dumped him is because In Denver he had become a Diva. Getting cut seemed to bring him back to earth and he apparently cleaned up his act.

Will be interesting to see how much he commands on the open market and what the Steelers do There didn’t appear to be too much interest in Wilson when he was essentially free so I doubt there are many if any teams willing to pony up big money for him but time will tell

You have seen over the last month or so exactly why Denver was willing to pay him tens of millions of dollars to go play for someone else. And yet you still had people just this past week wondering if they should give him a $30 million a year deal, or if it was going to take $40 million to keep him.

In reality, at this point he's barely worth a tenth of that. He simply physically cannot do the things that made him a top quarterback any longer. And he's never been good enough at the rest of being a QB to make up for his diminishing physical abilities. As Herbstreit pointed out yesterday, he's now at the point in his career where he has two choices when he drops back to pass. Throw the ball to his primary receiver, or dump the ball off to the safety valve. He's never been good at going through his progressions, and now he can't move well enough to give himself the time and space to find the secondary receivers or make plays running the ball himself. He is a shell of the quarterback he used to be.

If he's looking for any more than a few million to be a backup, no thanks.

 

[King Of All Message Boards]

You have seen over the last month or so exactly why Denver was willing to pay him tens of millions of dollars to go play for someone else. And yet you still had people just this past week wondering if they should give him a $30 million a year deal, or if it was going to take $40 million to keep him.

In reality, at this point he's barely worth a tenth of that. He simply physically cannot do the things that made him a top quarterback any longer. And he's never been good enough at the rest of being a QB to make up for his diminishing physical abilities. As Herbstreit pointed out yesterday, he's now at the point in his career where he has two choices when he drops back to pass. Throw the ball to his primary receiver, or dump the ball off to the safety valve. He's never been good at going through his progressions, and now he can't move well enough to give himself the time and space to find the secondary receivers or make plays running the ball himself. He is a shell of the quarterback he used to be.

If he's looking for any more than a few million to be a backup, no thanks.

I have my doubts that he’d even accept a backup role. And if he did, I’m willing to bet it wouldn’t be long until he became an insufferable PITA. He may be already halfway there to begin with.

 

[Usuallyunusual-partdeux]

I'm impressed this thread still has life. It lasted longer than the Steelers post season.

 

[BFo8]

I think Wilson still is able to throw decently enough to be somewhat effective, but what made him great was his ability to get outside the pocket and make plays downfield. Those days are long over, he is so slow in escaping the rush that it’s almost painful to watch. He is barely able to outrun DT’s at this point, anyone else chases him down with ease.

 

[PittPoker]

I have my doubts that he’d even accept a backup role. And if he did, I’m willing to bet it wouldn’t be long until he became an insufferable PITA. He may be already halfway there to begin with.

No way Russell Wilson accepts a backup role. He basically said after the game yesterday he can play in the NFL for a long time still(I'm paraphrasing).

He'd leave here if he was told he would be a backup.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

No way Russell Wilson accepts a backup role. He basically said after the game yesterday he can play in the NFL for a long time still(I'm paraphrasing).

He'd leave here if he was told he would be a backup.

I think someone out there will be desperate enough to make him an offer to be their starter.

My prediction is that they will end up disappointed.

My hope is that that organization is not the Stillers.

 

[PittPoker]

I think someone out there will be desperate enough to make him an offer to be their starter.

My prediction is that they will end up disappointed.

My hope is that that organization is not the Stillers.

If Rooney still gives Mike Tomlin full power than I think it's a really strong possibility they re-sign Russ to a 2 or 3 year deal. If Rooney takes some power away from Tomlin then maybe a decent chance Russell moves on.

 

[boseman7]

Changes will happen when:

The stands are no longer full and the fans lose hope....

When the players become more out of control on the field and in the locker room...

When the team's reputation is tarnished and they are no longer considered the model franchise...

When the national media realizes that Tomlin is a fraud and says so loud and clear...

* There are many problems on this team and Tomlin is the key. Their coaching staff are a bunch of "yes" men. Even if you make changes to the staff, they will be replaced with other "yes" men. He has no coaching tree. He wants coaches who will not challenge him.

* His philosophy on winning games will not change. He believes in running the football and playing defense (Rooney believes this as well) and the Steelers can do neither. The NFL has evolved into a offensive game and Tomlin & Rooney are stuck in the 1970's.

* Tomlin is a players coach to a fault. There are no consequences for bad behavior and lack of discipline and that's not going to change as long as he's around...

If you want to changes FAST, There is only one solution and that's to fire Tomlin. Otherwise, they will be wandering in the desert for years....

But based on what you said Rooney will just hire another defensive ball control type coach. I think i have a theory on this

 

[Usuallyunusual-partdeux]

I think someone out there will be desperate enough to make him an offer to be their starter.

My prediction is that they will end up disappointed.

My hope is that that organization is not the Stillers.

What other choice do they have. Honest to goodness they painted their selves into a corner. The could take a flyer on a guy like Dart. Not sure he would fit in an Arthur Smith offense but.... If we are going to be honest the Steelers biggest problem is they are cheap as hell and are always looking to nickel and dime or looking for a bargain. They basically go shopping at Dollar General for players.