Penn State head football trainer told frat members to get rid of evidence
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Remember that members of Joe Pa's staff, besides Sandusky, thought it was normal for grown men to shower with little boys who weren't their sons.
How soon will Franco be carrying around a card board cutout of this head trainer?
The day after Ron Cook proclaims the situation "healed" and orders the family to stop grieving.
And leered at Sandusky in the shower with boys while he did it, as Tom Bradley did (per sworn court testimony).
Plus, as nitters, they knew enough not to ruin anyone's weekend.
The core situation (fraternity hazing going too far) is not funny in the least and unfortunately can and does happen elsewhere. Pitt too.
Truth be told even Pitt could have a pedophile in lurking in its employ as well. No doubt has in the past.
PS may have a greater propensity for jerks and pervs than most, but unfortunately, not exclusivity.
The ghastly difference is the bizarre football team officials intimate involvement in both cases (as well as others like Vanderbilt and FSU rapes) and not doing a damn thing to prevent it ... indeed, only acting to cover it up and thwart justice.
That's not funny either ... ludicrous and outrageous, though. And since it's largely censored in all other venues due to the fear of economic reprisal from the cultist empire... it's vital to call it out here... If only so its called out SOMEWHERE.
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PSU continues to have chances to stand up for decency and do the right thing and chooses the wrong course.
LMAO-exactly-that's the part that raised my left eyebrow. 56 year old guy living in a frat house with a bunch of kids as a "chaperone" or "advisor". WTF????
If it were any other school he is likely gone fast. They Are Penn State.
Be proud nitters.
Mrs Buffett has expressed interest in being a " house advisor" for one of the local U frats?
But a 50 + year old guy??
Doesn't make much sense.
But a 50 + year old guy??
Doesn't make much sense.
I didn't want anything to do with fraternity house living when I was 18. I would think it odd for a 28 year old to want to live there. Someone twice that age choosing that lifestyle is beyond weird.
Very weird but it is PSU. Good job where buying and renting is dirt cheap right outside of St College.
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Penn State pledge's dad criticizes hearing into son's death
MARK SCOLFORO
Associated Press
12:32 PM
JUL 12, 2017
BELLEFONTE, Pa. — The father of a Penn State student who died from injuries suffered during a fraternity pledge night earlier this year said he’s exasperated by the pace of an ongoing pre-trial hearing for students charged in connection with his son’s death.
Jim Piazza released a statement late Tuesday that said he has not seen much evidence of remorse from defendants in the courtroom during three days of the preliminary hearing to determine if there’s enough evidence to send the case to county court for trial.
“For those parents of defendants who believe their son was improperly charged, I encourage you to talk to your son and to come forward with everything they have that is helpful,” Piazza said. “If they do, I will be extremely supportive.”
The hearing involves the now-shuttered chapter of Beta Theta Pi and 16 of the 18 young men accused of various crimes related to the February death of 19-year-old Tim Piazza of Lebanon, New Jersey. Two of the defendants waived the hearing.
It’s an early stage in the proceedings, and none of the defendants have been convicted of any crime. On Tuesday, several of the defense lawyers cross-examined the lead detective about the investigation. The hearing is tentatively expected to continue next month.
Jim Piazza, who sat in the front row of the courtroom gallery on Tuesday with his wife and civil attorneys, said defense attorneys have been trying to “shift the focus, shift the blame, and shift the responsibility” away from their clients.
“Tim’s death was no accident,” he wrote. “The facts show that there was a calculated plan carefully carried out by people who knew what they were doing and that it was wrong.”
Authorities say Tim Piazza consumed a dangerous level of alcohol the night of a pledge bid acceptance ceremony and party at the Beta Theta Pi house, then suffered a series of falls, leaving him with a fractured skull and severe injuries to his brain and abdomen. Security camera footage, which was shown during the first part of the preliminary hearing last month, depicted him in severe pain over the course of the evening, and showed fraternity members holding him down, pouring liquid on him and clumsily attempting to make him stand up and to dress him.
Tim Piazza was found unconscious in the basement the next morning by fraternity members who then waited about 40 minutes to summon help. He died the next day at a hospital.
The defendants are accused of charges that include, for some, involuntary manslaughter and aggravated assault. Others face less serious allegations, including evidence tampering, hazing, reckless endangerment and alcohol offenses.
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Penn State pledge's dad criticizes hearing into son's death
MARK SCOLFORO
Associated Press
12:32 PM
JUL 12, 2017
BELLEFONTE, Pa. — The father of a Penn State student who died from injuries suffered during a fraternity pledge night earlier this year said he’s exasperated by the pace of an ongoing pre-trial hearing for students charged in connection with his son’s death.
Jim Piazza released a statement late Tuesday that said he has not seen much evidence of remorse from defendants in the courtroom during three days of the preliminary hearing to determine if there’s enough evidence to send the case to county court for trial.
“For those parents of defendants who believe their son was improperly charged, I encourage you to talk to your son and to come forward with everything they have that is helpful,” Piazza said. “If they do, I will be extremely supportive.”
The hearing involves the now-shuttered chapter of Beta Theta Pi and 16 of the 18 young men accused of various crimes related to the February death of 19-year-old Tim Piazza of Lebanon, New Jersey. Two of the defendants waived the hearing.
It’s an early stage in the proceedings, and none of the defendants have been convicted of any crime. On Tuesday, several of the defense lawyers cross-examined the lead detective about the investigation. The hearing is tentatively expected to continue next month.
Jim Piazza, who sat in the front row of the courtroom gallery on Tuesday with his wife and civil attorneys, said defense attorneys have been trying to “shift the focus, shift the blame, and shift the responsibility” away from their clients.
“Tim’s death was no accident,” he wrote. “The facts show that there was a calculated plan carefully carried out by people who knew what they were doing and that it was wrong.”
Authorities say Tim Piazza consumed a dangerous level of alcohol the night of a pledge bid acceptance ceremony and party at the Beta Theta Pi house, then suffered a series of falls, leaving him with a fractured skull and severe injuries to his brain and abdomen. Security camera footage, which was shown during the first part of the preliminary hearing last month, depicted him in severe pain over the course of the evening, and showed fraternity members holding him down, pouring liquid on him and clumsily attempting to make him stand up and to dress him.
Tim Piazza was found unconscious in the basement the next morning by fraternity members who then waited about 40 minutes to summon help. He died the next day at a hospital.
The defendants are accused of charges that include, for some, involuntary manslaughter and aggravated assault. Others face less serious allegations, including evidence tampering, hazing, reckless endangerment and alcohol offenses.
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Yet recruits still flock there, fans still flock there. It is weird. They are completely teflon. You would like to think karma is coming to get them......but it just never happens. Somehow, their attitude always has a path of destructions with REAL victims and somehow they manage to turn themselves into the victims. It is just mindboggling.
Karma has come... look at the mess they are in.
So they win some football games... who cares
Maybe the trainer learned this from Joe. Instead of having to cleanup the stadium like the football players, he had the frat members cleanup the house.
As I tell everyone asking me about the game this year - you could not pay me enough money to be in that stadium with that many nutjobs - I will never set foot in that God forsaken place
Unfortunately Recruits is right. Nothing happened to the football team for having raped dozens or more children. It should have disappeared on a death penalty of at least 5 years. It got nothing.
In fact it benefited. It saw huge jumps in cultist donations. But especially got a convenient way to rid itself of its albatross geezer coach, who was clearly holding them back, as it turned out. A normal force-out like FSU with Bowden had been looming that would have been ugly, leaving serious hard feelings and fractures among the base.
But the exposure of the rapes (which they don't believe ever happened...WITCH HUNT!) led to the reluctant firing by (now pariah) trustees, who (along with the NCAA, Louis Freeh, and of course, us jealous bitter Pitt fans) are conveniently now the "bad guys" -- not Paterno or Sandusky, both of whom are still beloved. They can continue their God worship of those two unfettered. Most importantly, they got a better coach out of it (a better recruiter at least). The fact that he too should be in prison as an accessory to rape (at his old place)... as should be the current school president... also is reaping them nothing. Nothing but success i should say.
In this pledge murder situation, it's acknowledged here the coach was present, could have intercede but didn't and had advised a cover-up (sound familiar?). Normally a reason to charge him as a co-conspirator, but thanks to the usual corrupt crap justice system, no charges ... the football program conveniently escapes again.
And chances are so will the punks who killed this poor kid, because they are well connected. Their arrogance and cockiness pretty much suggests they know the fix is in.
All this would suggest anyone with an ounce of morality would flee the opposite direction of that hell hole, but as recruits noted, the opposite occurs.
Some karma!
Is it any wonder good people are frustrated and reduced to bad thoughts, like couldn't the PS team plane experience engine trouble or something?
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Why would anyone allow their kid near this place is beyond me
pittdan77
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Hell, even moreso than surviving this, they benefitted (the football program). They got rid of a huge roadblock and anchor in Paterno who was well past his prime and his entire staff which you have to wonder how good they were. In fact, it also prevented the possibility of JoePa using this entire coverup to put JayPa in charge to follow his footsteps.
So karma hell, they hired two better head coaches than Joe Paterno was the last decade.
But back to this thing, it used to be parents could feel more at ease when adults are present when their children leave their sides. At PSU, that seems to be when they are at most in danger, when the so called adults are around, the people you most expect to protect your kids.
I found myself in a meeting yesterday with an older chap... 60's...I had not met. There were a dozen or so people in the meeting.
I didn't like his olive suit nor the argyle olive socks. His comb over was not attractive.
But you know...it takes all kinds.
Late in the MTG I asked the intern sitting next to me where he went to school. "Pitt" he said. Great! I tell him I went to OSU but am a huge Pitt fan....
Comb over says some things to the young man about Penn State ...his school...
I bite my tongue.
He turns to me and says "now the thugs at Ohio State".
I turn to him and say "are you really going to go there? Really? Are you? Your president, AD, security head are off to prison...you hired and harbored Sandusky for well over a decade..., now your football Trainor.."
I actually got up and walked out.
They are sub human.
Did the trainer have to leave the Frat house? The chapter is "shut down" ... for now (it'll be back once the media dies down). But that looked like a pretty opulent building to leave empty indefinitely. Does Franklin just move in a bevy of players (and whores) into it with him now, like Dan Conner did with Ogre and Jefferson Darcy and the Pies in Revenge of The Nerds?
That is just awesome. And perfect analogy.
They will have that house until some roid laden 4 star gridiron hero decides to invent the "Fireball" and........it leads to....
speaking of nerds, Revenge of the Nerds 2 and 3 were on last night, back to back. ROTN 2 was bearable only because of Courtney Thorne-Smith was in a camo bra. The 3rd one I gave a minute before turning off..
Was the second version the one where Anthony Edwards only turned up in dream sequence because he thought he had become too important for that role? Only to go on to do a couple years on a prime time soap opera...
Kind of mirrors the Pitt attitude toward turning its nose up at successful football in the 80s. Surely we would be in the Ivy League by now thanks to that...
yep, nerds in paradise.. pretty bad, they get put on deserted island and Ogre becomes a nerd at the end..
I actually listened to an older interview with Booger and Skelnik (the main nerd) on Stern not too long ago. it was an awesome interview actually. Skelnik is Carradine's father (guy in Kung Fu and Kill Bill) so he is talking about this murder cover up of his father and booger is talking about Anthony Edwards leaving the nerds for ER, still pissed off about how he left them high and dry.
So you got these two topics going on simultaneously, one very serious the other, not so much.. Kind of weird because Booger actually did ok for himself, was in Moonlighting which was big in late 80's and still is in some movies now, most recently was the agent in "Ray".
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Sheesh. Glad I missed it i guess. Though i have to admit that I enjoyed Caddyshack 2.
