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Looking forward to his 1st full year as a starter.
Looking forward to his 1st full year as a starter.
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I disagree with the "player people hope will be the savior of Pitt football" line .
That brand of hyperbole drives me batty. We don't need to be saved....we need excellence across all levels and NOT have our fortunes rise and fall on the play of one guy.
We need a program.
Not some once a decade supernova.
Well IMO he could be the best QB Pitt had since Dan Marino. If that turns out to be the case that's savior enough for me.
Truth somewhere in the middle....
Agree that it’s not a situation where the team needs a savior, but we DO need a QB to be what we want to be.
I completely agree with you on the hyperbole. Does it come out of ignorance or does it come out of malicious intent - a setup so if somehow Pickett falls short, the writer can revert to “there you go - same old Pitt”.
I don’t want negativity, I don’t want wild worshipful hyperbole. Just be factual.
I'm not sure that even Marino was our best QB since Marino. I've been re-watching those early 80's games on youtube. His Senior year, he was as bad or worse than any recent QB and his first 2 years he was a solid to good part-timer. Sure, his sophomore year may have been the greatest year ever for a Pitt QB but Van Pelt had a better career and Gonzalas, Peterman, Rutherford and Palko all had singular seasons nearly as good or as good as Marino's Junior year. His legend is based on NFL numbers.
Well, the one thing that can take a middling program like Pitt to big time, for a year or two is a QB
Billy Stull was as responsible for 10 wins in 2009 as any player on that team. He had an outstanding, all-conference senior year. You could look it up.
Pitt really needs good quarterback play but everything goes by the offensive line. Hope the wrs step up this year be nice if Mack can play this year. The defense looks very promising.
This may sound like a hot take, but there is some truth to it. In 1980 Pitt beats FSU with decent QB play, Marino threw 3 ints and I believe a couple fumbles
His SR year he was awful, Pitt probably goes undefeated that year if he played anywhere close to his potential
His Junior year was the year he threw 37 TD's. It is hard to compare "seasons" strictly on statistics between then and now. Football is so wide open anymore, same with NFL, look at the statistics from QB's in say 1980 vs now.
Getting a plus defense in place will "save" Pitt football. I have doubts that Pickett can surpass Nate Peterman's play as senior. Nate was a very good college QB but that team still needed a defense to win big.
Torrential rains. Better weather for running than throwing it. Easy to blame him for FSU loss; but, Marino probably would have had a much better game in dry weather. IMO, weather was major factor costing Pitt's pass happy offense that game.
Also a different era. QB play has evolved a lot, and probably made its biggest leap right when he went to the pros.
Why do people constantly repeat this? There weren't torrential downpours that year. I'm not necessarily blaming him for that loss, but his turnovers played a big role in the loss.
There was a hurricane in Florida. Did you watch the game. Sure looked like rain to me.
WRONG. He was fantastic that year. Did having talent around him help? Absolutely, but he was great
Stull did a good job. No need to denigrate his performance.
Just double checked, knew I was right, checked YouTube no rain, read the synopsis from the 1981 media guide and it described it as hot and muggy no mention of rain.
This is such a myth that keeps getting repeated
This.
Been following Pitt football since 1972. The best Pitt QB in my opinion is Matt Cavanaugh. He was dangerous to the opposition. He was a good runner as well as a good passer. Marino had the greatest season as a Pitt QB in his junior year. Overall QB's like Peterman, Rutherford, Palko, Van Pelt and even Stull had better careers. Peterman is the best QB since Cavanaugh in my opinion.
Marino wasn't a bad punter. If I recall, he had one really horrendous punt that went like 3 yards. Remember, all of his punts were quick-kicks usually on the opponents side of the field. Most of them that I recall ended up successfully being downed inside the ten. He had a knack for it. They weren't pretty but were effective.
I want to see two things from Kenny Panther
1) no stupid sacks
2) 3rd and 4....3rd and 5 or 6....run for the first down
That's it. That's all I ask of a true sophomore.
How many drives....from bostick.....to stull... to Tino...to Savage.....were killed because our QB was a statue?
Think about how many 3rd down conversions we failed on because we never had this option. Then.....consider if even one or two more third down WERE converted per game......how many more TDs or FGs we score?
I would suggest one more score a game....if a QB can run
Finally....go back and see how many games we lost by 7 or less over the past 10 years.
Peterman could run. Our offense kept drives going by converting third down. Under Nathan...we scored points.
Back to Kenny Panther:
No stupid sacks....make plays with your feet.
If he comes through on both of the above we have a chance at a 9 win season.
1) no stupid sacks
2) 3rd and 4....3rd and 5 or 6....run for the first down
That's it. That's all I ask of a true sophomore.
How many drives....from bostick.....to stull... to Tino...to Savage.....were killed because our QB was a statue?
Think about how many 3rd down conversions we failed on because we never had this option. Then.....consider if even one or two more third down WERE converted per game......how many more TDs or FGs we score?
I would suggest one more score a game....if a QB can run
Finally....go back and see how many games we lost by 7 or less over the past 10 years.
Peterman could run. Our offense kept drives going by converting third down. Under Nathan...we scored points.
Back to Kenny Panther:
No stupid sacks....make plays with your feet.
If he comes through on both of the above we have a chance at a 9 win season.
Terribly ignorant statement. Stull had a great senior year. Really learned to throw a great deep ball, very little interceptions.
I just looked up he’s stats. 2600+ yards, 65% completion, he did have 8 ints which surprised me a bit but still very good season.
Stull gets no credit , which is BS. He is the only QB to win 10 games since Marino and all Pitt fans do is criticize him.
