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You got your numbers mixed up, 30 years is how long your nitters covered up for Sandusky.
I was just responding to Chethejet's post regarding Franklin had a healthy team. Not sure what you posted had any bearing on my post. Having said that I agree with your post.
Let's throw in Pitt's coaching-carousel recruiting rankings on Rivals and compare to PSU...
-----------Pitt-----------PSU
2011-----#59---------#35
2012-----#47---------#51
2013-----#35---------#43
2014-----#44---------#24
2015-----#66---------#15
If PSU is "woefully short on talent" right now, what does that make Pitt?
BTW, Sagarin's final ratings for 2015 season:
Pitt = #39 (with strength of schedule rank = 26)
PSU = #50 (with strength of schedule rank = 48)
Go Pitt.
Frankly.... TD needs to be banned. I mean, we all know here he is a pathetic nitter using a famous pitt players name to pretend he is a Pitt fan. But if others come on this board, they actually think this jag off may be legit. I mean, just look at these posts... die hard UPSers dont even back this guy this maniacally.
I mean, Pitt fans post negative psu post and they get deleted but we have to put up with his propaganda daily
I mean, Pitt fans post negative psu post and they get deleted but we have to put up with his propaganda daily
His sole purpose in life seems to be to defend Franklin. Increasingly I'm thinking he may well BE James from State College ...
I found it quite funny that ESPN did everything they could to NOT show the PSU sideline. They purposely panned away from it and concentrated on the GA sideline. The few times they did show the PSU side, it was pretty mixed up with red as well, except for those corner sections of 'psu fans' dressed in neon colors that normally are worn by kids that get into events for free. Say it ain't so? Of course none of us would give a rat's ass if PSU fans didn't attempt to disparage other schools with their nonsense we are better than you because we have more idiots going to games than you do, as if it really matters when you are 7-6 and a non factor in the CFB world for two decades and counting
I was there. What you are saying isn't true. Almost all of your pictures are of the Georgia side of the field. The PSU / Georgia fans were as close to equal as you can get. The lower bowls were at 95% full capacity during the game on both sides. The upper deck is only on the sidelines. There is no upper deck in the end zones. The upper deck was not empty as you claim. Between the 35 yard lines, the seats on each side were approzimately 60% full. From the goal lines to the 35 yard line, they were empty.
I am a Pitt fan. I also happened to live in Nashville during the Franklin era at Vandy and became a huge fan. I had Pitt season tickets from the 90s up until 2012.
The difference between you and I is that I can look at things concerning PSU objectively and you simply hate them. Myself, I could care less about PSU. I don't live in PA, so I don't have to deal with their fans. Besides, the Nits have mostly sucked since the early 90s. I don't read their message board and I don't let them rent space in my head. Most people here are just the opposite. They have that obsession that is common in most geographical rivalries, and simply hate everything PSU.
HATE or strongly dislike. Take your pick.
No need to ban anyone. Difference of opinion is a healthy thing. Not everyone is going to think the same way and will bring different views to a certain subject and you can take them or leave them. Look at state's board. You have to think like them or you are out, non-conformity is not permitted. You cannot have an opinion or share facts that prove them wrong and look how unhealthy it is because they are sick bunch.
TD tries to see things from both points of view, I can respect that. But you DO sometimes go over the top. At times you seem try to force things we know are not right. You are human though.
TD tries to see things from both points of view, I can respect that. But you DO sometimes go over the top. At times you seem try to force things we know are not right. You are human though.
That's right, no need to ever ban anyone. You know there are huge Pitt fans. like myself, for whom PENN STATE never crosses their minds, ever, never think about them or follow what they are doing, not ever. Now when we play them this year, I will have some interest. But if I didn't read this message board regularly, I'd know as much about what's happening at Penn State as I do the situation at Florida A&M or Louisiana-Lafayette. And there are those Pitt fans who for whatever reason, think more about Penn State than they do about Pitt, which I don't really get.
I dont hate Penn state at all. I just look at the simple facts that the guy is an awful coach, he disgraced the university I love (Vanderbilt), and the school he is currently at should have had the death penalty ban for the worst scandal in the history of sports. I dont live in Pennsylvania either, it really has nothing to do with backing everything penn state on the Pitt board vs logically talking over subjects. TD does not logically talk subjects. You see Franklin's resume, it has been posted here, instead of logically looking at it and thinking "hmmm, yes, I could be wrong, his resume is pretty awful" he thinks "well, he beat 7-6 ole miss! He is better than Narduzzi. He said that actually. He spouts pure propaganda, it would be ok if he wrote for the post-gazette, but we should not have to read it on a Pitt web site.
This makes a little more sense now. I know some people from Nashville who also said they would have built a statue for Franklin if he stayed since Vandy hadn't done anything and he at least got them to a bowl and somewhat relevant. They were, however, highly pissed with the way he handled his whole departure from Vandy and lost a lot of respect for him.
But if you step back from Tootsie's and take off the Broadway colored glasses, you could see that the "impressive" record at Vandy came with wins over many patsy's (Elon, UMASS) and historically bad seasons for Auburn and Florida (both had coaches that were inept in Chizik & Muschamp).
TD - I swear you've shared here that you were born in Wisconsin and are a fan of that program?
Exhibit A:
Taken right before kickoff. Notice the upper deck is completely empty. The stadium holds 67K. The upper deck is about 25K.
Also notice that almost everybody in the stadium is wearing red.
Exhibit B:
Coin flip. Very sparse in the endzone.... and what is there is almost all red.
Exhibit C:
Another angle during the game. Almost all red.
Ok.... well maybe all those pictures were of Georgia's side of the field. I'm sure PSU's side was completely full all the way up, right?
Nope. Right before kickoff again. Upper deck on PSU's side completely empty as well.
So.... they claim the attendance was 58k in a 67k stadium. But both upperdecks were empty, meaning at least 25k seats were empty.
Military bowl had 38k in a 34k stadium..... with 15k+ being Pitt fans. TaxSlayer bowl had no more than 42-43k in a 67k stadium.... with <10k being PSU fans.
However, in their defense, and considering the rural fan base of the Nitters one would think that had they known there would be Nascar cars at the game the attendance numbers would haves shot up significantly....
"TaxSlayer Bowl President Rick Catlett says both universities sold more than 15,000 tickets."
http://www.wokv.com/news/news/local/taxslayer-bowl-sees-boost-tv-ratings-strong-crowd-/npxzs/
http://www.wokv.com/news/news/local/taxslayer-bowl-sees-boost-tv-ratings-strong-crowd-/npxzs/
So either the 15k psu fans wore a lot of red or they sold their tickets to folks that did....
I (I was at the game) am not denying there were more UGA fans there. But I definitely think there WERE 20K PSU fans there. Despite the revisionist history some here are trying to tell.
Not true. He tries to defend Wanny with the same zeal - probably just to annoy Pitt fans.
I wasn't there. But the television cameras in no way showed anything close to 20,000 people - and with your contrasting colors, the blue and white would've definitely stood-out in that sea of red - and it didn't. Your band stood out, but that was it.
You may have sold 15,000 tickets, but if so, you had a lot of no-shows.
Well, believe what you want. If you want to believe TV cameras who wouldn't necessarily show a comprehensive view of the stadium over both (a) people who were actually there, and (b) the TaxSlayer Bowl President himself, suit yourself.
I can't imagine who would buy a ticket to a game 700 miles away THEN no-show, but I suppose it's not impossible .......
Maybe the television cameras used a red filter, so that everyone in the stands - except the Penn State Blue Band - looked as though they were wearing red.
Maybe the television cameras used a red filter, so that everyone in the stands - except the Penn State Blue Band - looked as though they were wearing red.
No offense --- but you're simply wrong on this one. I'm not a "cultist" PSU fan, as others here can attest ---- I do call it like I see it.
So you are not a Pitt fan? If not, I guess that shows that it is not only Pitt fans who believe this.
Ambervision Lives!Maybe the television cameras used a red filter, so that everyone in the stands - except the Penn State Blue Band - looked as though they were wearing red.
No. Because firing Wanny after 2010 was incredibly STUPID! It's a move that has bit us in the ass for the past 4 years and caused the program a lot of damage. I was not on board with any of the other hires until Narduzzi.
I'm not the kind of fan that just happily goes along with whatever Pitt does and continues to cheer and maintain a positive attitude. At times I wished I were, but that's just not me.
No. Actually, I've never been to Wisconsin. However, I have a good friend that was an athlete there. I will admit that I find the Badgers to be very likable and easy to root for. So in that sense I guess you could say I'm a fan.
I hear what you say about his wins, and that does have some merit. However, even those teams like AU & Florida in their past historically bad seasons have almost always been able to count Vandy as an easy win. Franklin really did change all that. And Vandy just doesn't fit at all when it comes to SEC football.
FWIW, I went to a new Uni unveiling at the Barnes and Noble (or Boarders, whichever it was) on West End back in 2012 with my son, who had a poster signed by Franklin and got pictures etc. Anyways, as I thanked him, he asked me how long I had been a Vandy fan. I told him that I was more or less just a fan of what he was doing there and that my college team is Pitt. He said "Ahh The Pitt Panthers!" and immediately started rolling off the names of Pitt greats and going on and on about what a great program Pitt was. He asked me if I went to Pitt or was from Pittsburgh... Anyways, you get the point. I'd like to see him successful, he just happens to be at the wrong school right now.
As for his departure... honestly, we all have our pride and every fan base gets highly pissed when their coach leaves for another college job. There really isn't a great way to handle those kind of departures. Our fans were the same way towards Todd Graham. Although when it comes to Todd Graham, his presence here bothered a lot more than his departure.
The University you love?! LMAO!!
I can tell by your writing that you didn't attend Vanderbilt. And no way in hell you are a Vandy football fan. First off, unless you attended Vandy, you just don't become a fan of Vanderbilt football. Nobody cares about Vanderbilt. #2: If you were a Vandy sports fan, you would be smart enough to realize that the James Franklin era is the golden era of modern day Vanderbilt football and it will never be any better.
Why don't you go into more detail about your love for Vandy, Whit Taylor?
BTW, Never stated Franklin is better than Narduzzi. I simply stated that he is a little more accomplished than Narduzzi. However, that should go without saying as Narduzzi is a first year coach.
I say this not just about Franklin but all coaches when I say that I think it easier to make a doormat of a program at least competitive than it is turn a mediocre program into a powerhouse that can compete for national titles.
I will also verify that michnittlion is far from a Cultist. The Cult despises him to the point that they start threads on BWI begging McAndrew to ban him because he has an agenda against the entire Paterno family. The Cult even floats theories that michnittlion is getting paid to post on BWI by the Penn State Board of Trustees because he does not march in lockstep with the Paterno was martyred group think.
That being said, it is still amusing that Georgia outdrew PSU at the Taxslayer Bowl, given how much of the Cutl's collective self-esteem is attached to attendance and puffing out their chest about the massive, unwavering level of support the fanbase gives the team.
I will also verify that michnittlion is far from a Cultist. The Cult despises him to the point that they start threads on BWI begging McAndrew to ban him because he has an agenda against the entire Paterno family. The Cult even floats theories that michnittlion is getting paid to post on BWI by the Penn State Board of Trustees because he does not march in lockstep with the Paterno was martyred group think.
That being said, it is still amusing that Georgia outdrew PSU at the Taxslayer Bowl, given how much of the Cutl's collective self-esteem is attached to attendance and puffing out their chest about the massive, unwavering level of support the fanbase gives the team.
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Probably has something to do with those "Welcome to Georgia, the Peach State" signs that are within 15-20 miles of Jacksonville.
There's a reason UGA plays a game there annually.
I understand that. So much of the PSU fanbase repeatedly pats themselves on the back over attendance, though. Admittedly, I don't read any of the Georgia boards, but does that fanbase puff out their chest about how incredible and amazing their attendance is?
I will say that I don't recall ever seeing you make some "107,000 strong" at every game comment or something similar to that.
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