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PITT BASKETBALL NEEDS TO START OVER

We are all dumber for reading this post.

1. As others said, the ACC was the best possible outcome after the Big Ten.
2. If no ACC, we'd be in the AAC, but at least we'd still have the River City Rivalry with Cincy :)
3. If Pitt had the power to keep the Big East together (LOL by the way) then the Big Ten would have invited them.
 
There were forces in motion that were ending the Big East no matter what Pitt did.

If Pitt doesn't go with Syracuse to the ACC in 2011, Connecticut would have.

And today, we'd be in the AAC in Connecticut's place. Our football program would be dead. Our basketball program would have no hope going forward.

The Big East was on life support and in a coma. It was dead.

The best and only action Pitt had was to get to the ACC or some other Power conference while we still could.

If we didnt, we'd be where UCONN is today.

You're ridiculous.

You really do not understand "big picture" at all. Nice follower mentality. But a real leader would not have accepted those things as "given". They were not, and every one of those on your list could have been changed.
 
When even the board idiots call you dumb, and they're actually correct, you should probably log off and not come back.

I can assure you, I'm likely the most intelligent person on this board. But thank you for the name calling. Enjoy being banned.
 
Agree with the new coaches and system, completely. Don't now how you can start over with new players. Anyway, Dixon really needs to step down or be fired.
In all honesty would you step down & walk away from a contract that would pay you for seven more years? If Dixon is fired, are you willing to fund his buyout? Pitt is caught between a rock and a hard place, because if its fans are waiting for a sugar daddy booster to foot the bill, you might be waiting a long time. The alternative would be to cut the football team's budget to make this happen which would be absurd.
 
I can assure you, I'm likely the most intelligent person on this board. But thank you for the name calling. Enjoy being banned.

I'll rest much better at night knowing that a smart guy like you is out there roaming the world, so thanks for that.

Now, can you take a moment to tell us once again how Pitt was going to not only save the Big East but keep it among the "power" conferences? I'm dying to hear from a really smart person how that's possible, since I've yet to hear that from the countless dumb people I encounter every day.

Thanks so much for the help with this, I anxiously await your detailed response.
 
You really do not understand "big picture" at all. Nice follower mentality. But a real leader would not have accepted those things as "given". They were not, and every one of those on your list could have been changed.
The Big East as we knew it was dead. The same market forces that built it turned around and killed it. No dynamic leader was going to reverse those market forces.

Pitt and Syracuse held it together as long as possible but the Providence Mafia refused to make the moves necessary to save it when the push to super-conferences started. The hybrid conference model was never destined for long duration because its members simply had different goals. The old BE never wanted an all-sports conference because most of those Catholic schools didn't really play football. The football playing schools, Pitt, Cuse, WVU, the Ville, couldn't rush out the door fast enough when the P-5 conferences threw out some lifelines. The schools were just too different.

The moves that were proposed or made, inviting TCU and about half of CUSA, came too late. Probably the only thing that might have saved it was forcing Notre Dame into the BE as a full member and leveraging them into a better TV deal. The answer from Providence to invite Villanova to become D-1 in football was ludicrous.

The ultimate success of Pitt's move to the ACC will be determined by the success of the football program. If football can return to national relevance -and stay there while becoming financially successful, then the move was correct. But, those things in combination are going to be very difficult. Getting there may be possible. Staying there is much harder. Getting and keeping butts in seats and serious increases in donations is nearly impossible in this town, all considered.

If the football falls short of national prominance or does not become capable of carrying the finances of the Athletic Department, then quite possibly going to the AAC with Cincinnati woud have been the better decision.

The P-5 schools seem to have launched a determined campaign to spend everyone else into oblivion. Even with the ACC TV money, our finances are near the bottom of the P-5. We can't really afford the neighborhood we have moved into. Based on population and demographics, I don't see that changing significanty, so I suspect we will have exchanged being a big fish in the BE pond for a bottom half position in arguably the poorest P-5 conference.

I'm rarely optimistic anyway but I don't see this ending well. 5 years from now, I expect we will be most commonly grouped with BC, Georgia Tech and Va Tech as schools with good academics and mediocre athletic programs.,
 
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No. It's on the administration for leaving the best conference ever to join a bunch of hicks. Every time I see a Bojangles or tractor commercial it reminds me that Pitt left the most media savvy conference ever created for one that can't even figure out basic marketing. If you don't get how that affects recruiting, attendance and donations you have no clue about college sports.
Don't Bogart that doobie.
 
I'm not a fan of the ACC really. I desperately miss the old Big East. But seriously, what else was Pitt going to do? The Big East as we knew it is dead. We had to go somewhere where the football program was still a P5 program, and without the Big East, the ACC is again the top dog in basketball. No matter how you spin it, the ACC was the best and only option.
 
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