Only the blue bloods consistently win that many games a season.
Pitt is what Pitt is
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Only the blue bloods consistently win that many games a season.
He had 20 players transfer in, including 9 from his former team which finished 11-2 and ranked 29th.
We have a new AD to figure out who would be the new HC. Every OC and DC in college football would like to run their own program. Pitt is a better program than Indiana, but Indiana has the far better coach and program. It can be done, you just have to hire the right guy.
I don’t see any reason why Pitt can’t be a consistent 9 or 10 win team year in and out. Why you can’t have IMO is winning the ACC, and then 2 years later calling off a cliff and going 3-9. The vibes here were good when Pitt was 7-0, but finishing with 5 or 6 losses should put Narduzzi on the hottest of seats.
You're back?
So what? We could have done that. Instead we hired a fbs oc and brought his players and coaching staff.
If that's true, why aren't they bringing in more talent? Why is the basketball program whiffing on so many guys?
I never left. I just get tired of the negativity and refuse to continuously participate with you losers.
Please show me where a P4 coordinator brings 9 players from his former team. It doesn't happen.
Are you complaining about Dez Reid?
No they don't. They just have a far easier schedule. Let's see if you're still on your knees for Indiana in the next few years when they actually have some upper level B1G teams on their schedule.
Let's see how many Big 10 Championships Cignetti can win at Indiana. Is he even going to get the Hoosiers in the Big 1O Championship game?
LOL.
First, how many new coaches are hired every year? Second, how many turn out to the "right guy"?
The point is that it is easier said than done. It is like catching lightning in a bottle. Was Brian Kelly at LSU the right guy? How about Lincoln Riley at USC? There are no guarantees.
There is no guarantee than Cignetti is the right guy but Indiana just signed him to an $80 million extension. Is that smart after just 1 year? Maybe. But it is a huge gamble.
There probably isn’t a right guy for Indiana. It’s a job you’re hired to be fired at.
Another LOL. 65% of posters participated in a pre-season poll with a selection that chose 7 or fewer wins this year. You didn't post your prediction but I'm willing to bet yours was well under 7 wins. The point is that the team overperformed its expectations. Yet you want to put him on the "hottest" of seats.
For the record, I stated a prediction of 8-4 in that poll thread. Looks pretty good now.
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"Losers". lol.
You're so invested in this program the only thing you do is support it anonymously on a non Pitt directly affiliated non premium message board. Hahahaha
I’m not on my knees for Indiana, and their schedule might be easier, we’ll see this weekend how they do. But, I’d rather have Cignetti and Shanahan than Narduzzi and Bell that’s for sure.
I wasn’t trying to counter the agree with him or you. Only to point out that his position and your position (how do we know he’s the right guy) is a wrong framing. There is no right guy for that job.
Your post was just the last one in the thread on that topic.
Of course you would. James Franklin wil skullf*** Cignetti next year.
Cignetti is getting his first power conference gig at age 63 at Indiana. Why is that?
anytime we have a 9,10, or 11 win season
Since 1981--43 years ago:
- One 11 win season
- One 10 win season
- Three 9 win seasons
And we have posters here pissing on Indiana's shoes for starting their season 10-0 under a brand new head coach? Calling out their weak schedule when Pitt' plays a weak schedule?
Do you think SMU plays a tougher schedule than IU? The analytics and the people that study and interpret them don't think so. At regular season's end they will have played--and lost to--one ranked team. And there is no Ohio State on SMU's schedule--nothing even remotely close to that.
I wasn't aware that being a fan required an investment.
Btw, I have 2 degrees from Pitt. That's more investment than most here.
Again, you're replying to the wrong guy. The concept of "right guy" wasn't mine.
Who cares? He’s got the number 5 team in the Country, a packed stadium weekly, and will have a better recruiting class than Pitt once Dotson de-commits. So, who’s winning?
So you want to have an $8+ million per year coach with 1 year experience?
Narduzzi has a Conference Championship. How long do you think it will take for Cignetti to deliver one to Bloomington?
Recruiting class ranking is irrelevant. It's not possible to sign a highly ranked class at either school. It's largely going to be a big list of 3 star guys signed at both schools.
A packed stadium? IU plays in a 52,000 seat shithole.
TBH, I like both coaches and think they are both great fits at their respective university. But truthfully, neither program is nationally relevant & I don't see that changing any time soon. Both programs may flash at times and give you a few weeks mirage of national relevance, but neither are relevant and aren't going to seriously contend for a National Championship.
And of those 9, not one had a scholarship offer from a P4 school coming out of HS. Neither did his QB who transferred in from the MAC. Of his 31 incoming transfers, 29 were ranked as 3 star or below in the transfer rankings. Their best performing transfers are for the most part group of 5 guys. Most outside of the GO5 guys and Rourke are P4 castoffs who saw little PT at the schools they came from.
You are bolstering the counterpoint, not your own.
Come on man. You gotta respect what Indiana has done. They’ve dominated all season. And yeah it might be the equivalent of dominating the ACC…it’s still pretty darn impressive. Our last 10 coaches haven’t done that.
Send it in with your condition. Since they likely don't even know who you are, it will probably end up in the trash.
I respect what they have done. But they still haven't played a single team with a winning record. Our last 10 coaches haven't had that luxury. If they win this weekend, I'll be impressed.
For whatever reason it happens in the B1G. For as much as I hate PSU and HATE the fact that they are playing on New Years Day every year…gitta respect the fact that in most years they beat who they are supposed to. We haven’t done it in 40+ years.
Cignetti has done wonders in his first year at IU, no question about it. However, SMU has played the tougher schedule (admittedly still not that tough). I don't think there is any site out there that ranks schedules that has IU above SMU.
Both teams got good conference schedule draws this year, but the best team IU played is Nebraska. That's friggin crazy easy. They get full credit for winning their games though.
I don’t know why you’re turning this into an argument. If Indiana beats Ohio State this week, they’re in the drivers seat in the Big10. In fact, they’d probably be the number 2 team in the Country with a W this weekend. And I think they would win the Big10 this year, they’ve better than Penn State at every level. For as good as 2021 was to Pitt, Indiana hasn’t tripped up against inferior competition.
But they can't help that. They play the schedule as it comes, and the OOC schedule was made out years ago, and the conference schedule is laid out for them.
Same as any team. Some years there's a lot of luck involved. Where luck isn't involved is taking care of business each week. In that, IU has been flawless.
I have to ask - why are you so committed to Narduzzi ?
I mean - you don’t buy tickets , attend , and donate -
So why the undying support of a mediocre coach ?
It’ll read that I’m pitching in for Heather Lyle’s miserable decision to extend this loser. And, Pitt is begging for donations, not tossing it in the trash.
They haven't even played a team with a winning record.
Sounds like you are all in on this guy over a 1 year sample size in which the next team he defeats with a winning record will be his first.
Gee, that sound a bit harsh for discussion on a team message board.
Opinions are expected and not all will agree?
The major takeaway was that 9 of his incoming players knew Cignetti's system, which countered a point that the post to which I replied made.
Unsurprising that you didn't get the point.
I've made it clear that I believe Narduzzi to be a perfect fit for Pitt.
The rest of your post is completely irrelevant except that it shows your continued jealousy.
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