Pitt is what Pitt is

[NCPitt]

It’ll read that I’m pitching in for Heather Lyle’s miserable decision to extend this loser. And, Pitt is begging for donations, not tossing it in the trash.

I'm sure they will appreciate your $10.

 

[NCPitt]

Gee, that sound a bit harsh for discussion on a team message board.
Opinions are expected and not all will agree?

We have a history.

 

[MartyInLawrenceville]

Indiana is the hot new girl in school. Everyone wants her. If they get curb stomped by OSU Saturday, that hot new girl will be found out to be a whore and have the clap.

 

[thebadby2]

I respect what they have done. But they still haven't played a single team with a winning record. Our last 10 coaches haven't had that luxury. If they win this weekend, I'll be impressed.

So all they have to do to earn your respect is beat the #2 team in the country, a team with about 25 future NFL starters on it, and you'll give them some credit?

 

[PittPharm2002]

I've made it clear that I believe Narduzzi to be a perfect fit for Pitt.

The rest of your post is completely irrelevant except that it shows your continued jealousy.

Jealous of your complete lack of tangible support for the perfect fit ?

 

[TD_6082]

So all they have to do to earn your respect is beat the #2 team in the country, a team with about 25 future NFL starters on it, and you'll give them some credit?

Or play them close.

Not dissing them either, but is it too much to ask to beat a ranked team, or even ONE team with a winning record?

Even that fraudulent ass WVU team of 1993 beat a couple ranked opponents.

 

[PittPharm2002]

I'm sure they will appreciate your $10.

Which is $10 more that you, correct ?

 

[PittPharm2002]

Pitt has been and continues to be limited in its capacity for recruiting. I've stated this many times. Just because you refuse to accept it doesn't make it wrong.

What’s limiting pitt recruiting exactly ?

 

[PittPharm2002]

I wasn't aware that being a fan required an investment.

Btw, I have 2 degrees from Pitt. That's more investment than most here.

It is an investment in yourself
Not athletics

 

[Gunga_Galunga]

But they can't help that. They play the schedule as it comes, and the OOC schedule was made out years ago, and the conference schedule is laid out for them.

Same as any team. Some years there's a lot of luck involved. Where luck isn't involved is taking care of business each week. In that, IU has been flawless.

Agree, that's their schedule and they're taking care of business. I'm not looking for them to apologize.

It's also fair to point out their schedule has been horrible to date, and a big reason they're undefeated. Not much different than Pitt when they were 7-0.

I've been a fan of the good Cignetti since his JMU days. First year he put his team in the championship and got DiNucci drafted in the NFL.

 

[FreeportPanther]

Or play them close.

Not dissing them either, but is it too much to ask to beat a ranked team, or even ONE team with a winning record?

Even that fraudulent ass WVU team of 1993 beat a couple ranked opponents.

How do they change their schedule at this point??
You play the teams on your schedule, sometimes it's hard, sometimes it's easy.
Just like our schedule.
Important thing is to beat whoever is on your schedule and see what happens.

 

[TD_6082]

What’s limiting pitt recruiting exactly ?

1. Money
2. Money
3 Money
4. Conference affiliation

 

[thebadby2]

Cignetti has done wonders in his first year at IU, no question about it. However, SMU has played the tougher schedule (admittedly still not that tough). I don't think there is any site out there that ranks schedules that has IU above SMU.

Both teams got good conference schedule draws this year, but the best team IU played is Nebraska. That's friggin crazy easy. They get full credit for winning their games though.

However, SMU has played the tougher schedule

I'm seeing SMU's to date SOS ranked #63, IU's #66. I'd say that's about even.

IU remaining SOS puts them up to 26. SMU's puts them at 45.

 

[thebadby2]

LOL.

First, how many new coaches are hired every year? Second, how many turn out to the "right guy"?

The point is that it is easier said than done. It is like catching lightning in a bottle. Was Brian Kelly at LSU the right guy? How about Lincoln Riley at USC? There are no guarantees.

There is no guarantee than Cignetti is the right guy but Indiana just signed him to an $80 million extension. Is that smart after just 1 year? Maybe. But it is a huge gamble.

There is no guarantee than Cignetti is the right guy but Indiana just signed him to an $80 million extension. Is that smart after just 1 year? Maybe. But it is a huge gamble.

I don't disagree with you about this, but unfortunately that's the way it is in college football now. If you don't make a massive commitment to your guy the minute he has a great season, someone else will. MSU did the same thing with Mel Tucker. A football never-was like IU spending $8 mill a year for a football coach is something i never thought I'd see in my lifetime, let alone paying him that after 1 season. But that's the absurd place the game has found itself in today.

 

[thebadby2]

Or play them close.

Not dissing them either, but is it too much to ask to beat a ranked team, or even ONE team with a winning record?

Even that fraudulent ass WVU team of 1993 beat a couple ranked opponents.

Not all ranked opponents are equal. Big difference between playing #2 Ohio State and let's say, #23 Iowa State.

But a lot of you guys are missing the big picture, which is that for about 120 years, including and especially last year, IU football has been one of those unranked, losing record "easy" opponents. In one season they have turned the tables around 180- degrees on that. Do they have staying power? We'll see. But their head coach certainly appears to have a proven process for succeeding that he sticks to everywhere he goes. It apparently doesn't involve things like 3 straight defensive offsides penalties or mulitple false starts, clock disasters and unforced penalties all on one red zone possession.

 

[TD_6082]

Not all ranked opponents are equal. Big difference between playing #2 Ohio State and let's say, #23 Iowa State.

But a lot of you guys are missing the big picture, which is that for about 120 years, including and especially last year, IU football has been one of those unranked, losing record "easy" opponents. In one season they have turned the tables around 180- degrees on that. Do they have staying power? We'll see. But their head coach certainly appears to have a proven process for succeeding that he sticks to everywhere he goes. It apparently doesn't involve things like 3 straight defensive offsides penalties or mulitple false starts, clock disasters and unforced penalties all on one red zone possession.

Indiana beat 3 ranked teams in 2020. One of them in the top 10.

Cignetti's resume is nothing special. Mike Houston was more successful at JMU than CC was.

Weird that you're talking about the big picture and suddenly switch to focusing on 2 possessions from the Clemson game.

And the answer is NO. It doesn't have staying power at IU & there isn't staying power at Pitt.

 

[Gunga_Galunga]

However, SMU has played the tougher schedule

I'm seeing SMU's to date SOS ranked #63, IU's #66. I'd say that's about even.

IU remaining SOS puts them up to 26. SMU's puts them at 45.

All in favor of SMU
Sagarin - 64 & 77
ESPN - 86 & 106
Colley - 68 & 103
Massey - 60 & 68
Team Rankings - 48 & 62

So yeah, as I said, pretty much every ranking service to date.

 

[Gep Dawg]

I just expect Duz's teams to play with more disclipine and for the coaches to stop making such terrible and easily avoidable mistakes on game day. I don't think this is too much to ask from a head coach who has been here for 10 years and makes millions a year. Even our best year's are always marred by some loss that never should have happened because the mistakes were so ridiculous and bush league that even high school teams don't make them.

 

[NatronaHeightsPanther]

They haven't even played a team with a winning record.

Sounds like you are all in on this guy over a 1 year sample size in which the next team he defeats with a winning record will be his first.

I’m not all in on anyone. It’s simply a recognition that Cignetti and Shanahan have one of the most prolific offenses in the Country, and are a top 5 team in college football. Narduzzi went 8-5 his first year. Just appreciate what they’re accomplishing.

 

[TD_6082]

I’m not all in on anyone. It’s simply a recognition that Cignetti and Shanahan have one of the most prolific offenses in the Country, and are a top 5 team in college football. Narduzzi went 8-5 his first year. Just appreciate what they’re accomplishing.

Yet IU is behind such offensive juggernauts as PSU, Clemson, and Tennessee.

They aren't going to finish in the top 5. They aren't going to win their conference. They aren't going to build anything more than a mediocre program at IU.