But but but... Sean Idowu sucks...
the talent scouts on the Pantherlair have told me so for the past 3 years!
the talent scouts on the Pantherlair have told me so for the past 3 years!
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Oh good, we can read about souf’s white guilt not only on the political board but here on the football board too.
Damn it must suck to hate the color of your own skin.
Who slings it around.
You feeling sad because your middle school glory days are ancient history, is funny.
It’s the equivalent of Canadians wanting a physical hockey game with fighting and enforcers.
Skill wins.
White people cant have skill? Racist. Stopping the run is ancient history lol.
Your football knowledge is astounding.
I didn’t know Luke Kuechly and Sean Lee were black. Maybe you should tell them.
Souf is the Rachel dolezal of the Pantherlair. Just ignore him or you’ll regret it.
it’s the nickel D being used a little more then a traditional 4-3, let’s not be overly dramatic about this Rachel.
You are the one who said slow, WHITE guys. Slower, run-stuffing LBers who are black have been displaced as well.
Its not skill winning. It is rule changes and the enforcement of those rules that is causing the evolution of football. Those 2 things cause more teams to throw because why not. You either complete the pass, get pass interference, or the very rare case of an incompletion you will get a late hit on the qb.
Swearvin is right, football is becoming 7 on 7 instead of football.
That's true to some degree. But some of it is also analytics and reasoning. I mean, Paul Brown was mocked for throwing the football. Change happens slowly. Even without the rule changes, would we still have a fullback? Probably not, because the idea that stacking the box only helps the defense, is generally accepted by everybody.
Spreading teams out and creating lanes, is helped by the rule changes, but it's not dependent upon them.
You pick my position fullback. Dedicated fullback probably not as coache's would look for more versatility and still want HBacks fill that role. With that said the fullback spot is still used, maybe not like in yester-year but still used by a great majority of teams depending on the situation they are in.
its not evolution, it’s a cycle. Typical copy cat sport. Everyone goes big so someone goes small and fast. Everyone else copies that until sometime in the future, some coach will come up with the idea that the shortest distance between two points is a straight line and they will go big again, utilizing the size/strength advantage running over 6 man defensive fronts.
Rinse and repeat.
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In Las Vegas and Glo Vegas Over/under on total wins for Pitt is 5.5.
I went big on the over.
See you in Sept at Pitt vs UPS.
You coming down for Pitt at Unc game in Sept? The annual party at my house on Fri pm before the game is going to be epic this year. Pray for 3:30 pm or 7 pm kickoff. I hope you and your crew can attend the party.
Peace
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The Pats are more often than not a top 10 run defense team.
The NCAA champ and the runner up were top 20 rushing defenses. 3 of the 4 playoff teams were top 20 rushing Ds. Only 1 was a top 20 offense (1st in total yards) and they were the same team who couldn't stop the run.
Of course you have to stop the run first, because if you can't then nobody needs to throw.
We’re both saying the trend is a 4-2-5 to get an extra speed athlete in the field to cover in space. Very few college teams are running a third CB in their 4-2-5 because most college team don’t have corners physical enough to make plays on RBs in the gaps and on the edges. The typical college 4-2-5 is a “big nickel” with a big safety or smaller, fast LB taking the place of the typical WLB.
The 4-2-5 is different in the NFL where the corners are big and physical.
Hoping you’re correct as I’m on Pitt over as well, but you could’ve got over 5 at -135 at Southpoint still.
I'll see you at the Nit game. Let me know where you guys are tailgaiting.
Whether 4-2-5, 3-3-5, 2-4-5 if you are using that as a base, it is about increasing coverage while limiting the susceptibility against the run because that 5th DB will be in there defending run plays on 1st or 2nd downs. Plenty of NFL teams use a safety as a 5th DB as well for that reason and because the 4th WR is often a TE.
I think you are right that a lot of college teams don't have a bevy of big corners, but another reason they use a safety over a corner is the higher prevalence of running QBs and RPOs in college. That tilts the balance to a 5th DB that can play the run as a balance between a WLB and a corner.
That also requires intuition, which is why although everyone wants to recruit a hybrid, big athlete, it isn't always that easy. TCU is one of the prototype college teams that use a 4-2-5 base and Patterson has recruited HS option QBs to move them to play safety. If you think about it that is a kid that is athletic, probably decent size, played safety on D, likely has ball skills and overall, his brain is used to making decisions on the fly.
https://247sports.com/Player/Micah-Jones-75888
Here's #376 in 2018. He's still a 4 star on their site.
Here's #376 in 2018. He's still a 4 star on their site.
He also gets exposed in coverage.
The jaguars made us look stupid, fer crying out loud
I don't see the "stars" for the composite, but it could be a browser issue. However, their rating explanation clearly outlines what constitutes a 4 star or better (.9 and above) and 3 star or worse and aligns with an average ranking around #300.
https://247sports.com/Article/247Sports-Rating-Explanation-81574/
So, why insert race? HB Blades would be another great example of a LB who is schemed out of much of today's game.
Why do you keep going with the overall rank instead of the scouting grade? There is no set number. It's not like a Top 25, where there literally has to be a Top 25. So if you come in at 10th, you clearly didn't "just miss" the Top 25.
The services are just scouting these players and giving them a scout grade. How many get a 4* grade, and how great their 4* grade is, varies from year to year.
It also makes sense that so many 4* recruits would in fact "just make" the 4* cut. There are more kids with 89ish grade talent than there are 96ish grade talent. Just as there are more 1* players than 4* players in high school football. We would expect greater numbers as the talent gets worse.
So of course there are going to be a ton of 4* players that could just as easily be 3* players. That's how talent works.
If the 247 cut off for a 4* is an 89, and you received an 8902, you literally JUST made the 4* cut. According to the scouts, your talent is as low as we can possibly grade it and still give you a 4* ranking.
I don't know why they break it down like that. Anything above an 89 is a 4*. Below is a 3*.
You answered your own question. The stack rankings are based on their grade. It's one in the same.
The stack ranking and grade gives a better indication on talent than the star clusters. Personally, I think the star ratings are silly.
The stack ranking and grade gives a better indication on talent than the star clusters. Personally, I think the star ratings are silly.
Yes, your actual scout grade is a much better indicator of your talent. A 89 is far closer to a middle of the road P5 player in grade, than an elite player in grade.
Shhh you are raining on his negativity. We have a freshman of the year backing up Darrin hall at RB, who ran all over duke, and I mean ALL over Duke. And 2 4 star rbs behind him, yet our rb are ? And theirs are good, and their starting rb has 2 starts
cant imagine there aren't too many returning starter RBs better than Hall. he has about 1100 yards.... in 3 seasons.
What negativity? The debate wasn't even about whether the units I labeled as unknowns were actually unknowns, it was instead about whether that was common among P5 teams.
It's weird that people make the logical leap that "unknown = bad." I never argued any such thing. But when all you've got is a hammer, I guess everything looks like a nail.
Pitt's LB corp projected to be top four in the ACC.
https://www.cardiachill.com/2018/7/...urgh-panthers-football-idowu-zeise-brightwell
https://www.cardiachill.com/2018/7/...urgh-panthers-football-idowu-zeise-brightwell
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