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Pitt received 3 votes in coaches poll

It shows you what scheduling properly can do. We would be in the Top 25 as well if we had their schedule.

Or we would have lost to a Western Michigan team that won six in a row. Or lost to Purdue and beat Holy Cross and still would be who we are.

Win the division. I am not convinced Syracuse or Boston College is out recruiting us by having one easier game per year. Recruiting is mostly either about location (is what it is), infrastructure (stadium, facilities, fan base/prestige), and coach. I am not sure a few extra weeks in the AP poll is what is stopping Narduzzi from being a closer.
 
Not too bad. Seriously if we got even normal calls, we would be 6-2 now. Not saying we are a good team, but we are playing decent ball
 
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Compared to some other P5 teams, Pitt is playing 3 more difficult games than others. There's no way to minimize the negative impact that would have a 90% of the P5 teams..

Or we would have lost to a Western Michigan team that won six in a row. Or lost to Purdue and beat Holy Cross and still would be who we are.

Win the division. I am not convinced Syracuse or Boston College is out recruiting us by having one easier game per year. Recruiting is mostly either about location (is what it is), infrastructure (stadium, facilities, fan base/prestige), and coach. I am not sure a few extra weeks in the AP poll is what is stopping Narduzzi from being a closer.
 
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I though Pitt was the beneficiary of more than their share of the calls yesterday.

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Please tell me how the refs gave us the win? By taking back a TD we scored? I'll remind you we had 50 yards in penalties, and Duke only had 36.
 
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Please tell me how the refs gave us the win? By taking back a TD we scored? I'll remind you we had 50 yards in penalties, and Duke only had 36.

It is absolutely pointless discussing this with you, you will forever be unable to look at it impartially.

My bad for even responding.
 
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It is absolutely pointless discussing this with you, you will forever be unable to look at it impartially.

My bad for even responding.

Me? I simply asked to give examples. I am completely partial. I know the game yesterday was fairly officialled... there was no point for it not to be. It was Duke/Pitt. I really cant think of any calls not made other than late hits on Pitt guys out of bounds, which I wouldnt have called either.
 
And having sat on the 40 yard line, even the ND fans around me were agreeing with the egregiousness of the non-calls going against Pitt. Holds in the open field, right in front of the refs. Sure Pitt was holding, but ND had numerous and major, head scratching holds and PIs not called at critical times.

Yeah, Pitt couldn't engineer offense, and it still boils down to Pitt not getting the job done. But I can't say the officials did their job either. I have rarely seen such obvious penalties not called when they occur right in front of officials.

that seems to be the theme this year. I thought we caught a break Saturday on Watt's sack on Duke's last drive. Sure looked like he went high on that tackle and was going to get flagged.
 
Not too bad. Seriously if we got even normal calls, we would be 6-2 now. Not saying we are a good team, but we are playing decent ball
Here you go again with the bad call line of thinking?
It's mathamatically impossible for bad calls to influence one team, every season, all the time.

"it's five o'clock somewhere"
Signed: Mr Buffett
Go PITT & CSU Rams!
 
Here you go again with the bad call line of thinking?
It's mathamatically impossible for bad calls to influence one team, every season, all the time.

"it's five o'clock somewhere"
Signed: Mr Buffett
Go PITT & CSU Rams!
It was pretty funny when the ref signaled for a touchback on the final play
 
I do think the three votes (or one vote or whatever) shows we might have gotten a fairly good amount of votes if we had beaten UNC because losses to UCF, Notre Dame, and Penn State aren't held in low regard.

6-3 Washington and 5-3 Mississippi State are both in the top 25 of the coaches poll because of tough schedules.

Along the same lines, UCF isn't going to be able to move into the top 5 because their schedule is simply too easy. That's something the AP, Coaches, and Playoff committee will probably agree on.
 
Were they Pre Season early absentee write-in votes?
It probably was sent express mail USPS in August and just showed up.
USPS has great service?

"it's five o'clock somewhere"
Signed: Mr Buffett & CSU Rams
Go PITT & CSU Rams!
 
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I am not convinced Syracuse or Boston College is out recruiting us by having one easier game per year.
That would be because they aren’t out recruiting us at all. Other than BC looking like they’ll have a pretty good incoming class in ‘19, those two schools have been horrendous in recruiting. Pitt has been smoking them if you look at the recent class rankings here on rivals. If Narduzzi was bringing in the classes BC or Syracuse did the past 3 years there would be daily riots to have him fired.
 
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Having sat on the 30 yard line with a pretty good view of the field, Pitt got away with many holding calls and still managed one offensive TD ... no way the zebras decided that game.
I watch college football like NPR watches Trump and I have never seen as much blatant holding as I have seen this year.
It's as if all college coaches agreed to hold on every play and force the refs to either throw a flag on every play or turn a blind eye.
 
It shows you what scheduling properly can do. We would be in the Top 25 as well if we had their schedule.
We’d be in the top 25 if we beat UNC(who we are supposed to beat) and don’t get blown out badly by UCF and Penn State. 5-3 with the hardest SOS in the country minus blowouts = top 25. See Texas a&m and miss st.

Impossible to predict strength of schedule as far in advance as the AD has to schedule these games.

Interesting articles regarding “consistency” and “laser focus” by Narduzzi today. Asked his players to see him about whether they were consistent or not. None of them approached him so he assumed they all felt they were consistent? When he says this stuff in the press it doesn’t inspire confidence in the season ticket holder.

The inconsistency, without much change to the depth chart, also screams a lack of talent on the roster to bench the inconsistent player.

And lastly, why haven’t we seen or heard of V’Lique Carter before this past weekend? Does it have something to do with the new redshirt rule?
 
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People bitch about Pitt scheduling UCF but they were coming off a 6-7 season where they were blown out in a bowl game by Arkansas State. They were 0-6 against top 80 opponents, and 6-1 against teams ranked 81+. The previous season UCF was 0-12. They were 0-7 in their previous 3 seasons against P5 programs.

Pitt wanted more of a presence in Florida and UCF seemed like a beatable opponent.
 
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People bitch about Pitt scheduling UCF but they were coming off a 6-7 season where they were blown out in a bowl game by Arkansas State. They were 0-6 against top 80 opponents, and 6-1 against teams ranked 81+. The previous season UCF was 0-12. They were 0-7 in their previous 3 seasons against P5 programs.
People dont want to hear this . They think Pitt makes the schedule 10 minutes before the season starts
 
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People bitch about Pitt scheduling UCF but they were coming off a 6-7 season where they were blown out in a bowl game by Arkansas State. They were 0-6 against top 80 opponents, and 6-1 against teams ranked 81+. The previous season UCF was 0-12. They were 0-7 in their previous 3 seasons against P5 programs.

Pitt wanted more of a presence in Florida and UCF seemed like a beatable opponent.
Way to cherry-pick stats.

UCF # wins this decade, by season: 11, 5, 10, 12, 9, ZERO, 6 (then scheduled). From 0 to 6 wins is definitely a sign of a program on the rise (which resulted in an undefeated season last year, obviously).

Not saying we should be afraid to play UCF, but obviously not the type of program to schedule with PSU and ND already on the non-conference schedule.
 
Way to cherry-pick stats.

UCF # wins this decade, by season: 11, 5, 10, 12, 9, ZERO, 6 (then scheduled). From 0 to 6 wins is definitely a sign of a program on the rise (which resulted in an undefeated season last year, obviously).

Not saying we should be afraid to play UCF, but obviously not the type of program to schedule with PSU and ND already on the non-conference schedule.
If a team wins a single game after a winless season they can technically be "on the rise." Obviously they were destined to be undefeated after winning 6 games the previous season, that's why every pre-season prediction had their over-under between 6.4 and 7.5 for 2017. There is literally not a single person I could find that had them picked to win their division, let alone 10+ games.

I'm not going to pretend to know what other teams were available to schedule at the time, but I'm certainly not going to fault Pitt for scheduling a rebuilding G5 opponent in one of our recruiting hotbeds. Especially when UCF's 5 recruiting classes prior to scheduling the game averaged 71st in the country. Or that they had not beaten a P5 team in 3 years.

Everyone better start emailing the administration demanding that Pitt doesn't schedule Charlotte for 2020. They only won a single game last year but have already won 4 this year, so obviously they are going to be undefeated next year.
 
People bitch about Pitt scheduling UCF but they were coming off a 6-7 season where they were blown out in a bowl game by Arkansas State. They were 0-6 against top 80 opponents, and 6-1 against teams ranked 81+. The previous season UCF was 0-12. They were 0-7 in their previous 3 seasons against P5 programs.

Pitt wanted more of a presence in Florida and UCF seemed like a beatable opponent.

Way to cherry-pick stats.

UCF # wins this decade, by season: 11, 5, 10, 12, 9, ZERO, 6 (then scheduled). From 0 to 6 wins is definitely a sign of a program on the rise (which resulted in an undefeated season last year, obviously).

Not saying we should be afraid to play UCF, but obviously not the type of program to schedule with PSU and ND already on the non-conference schedule.

They averaged 10 wins a year the 3 years before they bottomed out at 0-12. Looking back the 0-12 is the outlier. They consistently are pretty good to very good football team.

Pitt scheduling USF would be just as dumb, imo.
 
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