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That counts 10K "free giveaway" student tickets that generally go unused. OK they are $25 for the season which is essentially free.
In my plan, you limit the student section to 5K and charge them $100. If they really want to be there, rebate them $10 every time their ticket is scanned when leaving the stadium AFTER the game ends.
You also limit the corporate giveaways. Pitt has such a huge supply, they give these companies large swaths of tickets that dont get used.
So you have 40K regular season tickets you can sell.
5K students
3K visitors
1K corporate sponsors
1K player comp, recruits, university use
40K regular student tickets
If the demand for those 40K season tickets exceeds supply, guess what, you raise the price. Higher prices created by demand mean fans will value going to the game more and secondary market ticket prices will be higher so fans actually can sell their tickets if they cant make it.
You must live on a very interesting planet. First, screwing the students is about the dumbest thing you have ever said--and that is saying something. The students are our future and the reason the games are played. Charging them more or limiting their ability to attend is IDIOTIC. Moreover, since they are the only ones that actually cheer and act alive when in the stadium, your plan would further erode the atmosphere in the stadium.
As for corporate sponsors, they get those tickets for writing big checks to Pitt. Take away the tickets, and you perhaps lose 100's of thousands in corporate sponsorships. Corporate tickets are used when the game is interesting--so it is no surprise that folks do not come out to see the likes of Villanova or Marshall, etc. The good news is that you have absolutely no role in Pitt athletics and that your plan will only come to fruition in your strange little world of fantasy. Peace. Hail to Pitt!
Pitt has one of the largest student sections in the country. You know why? Because they have too many available seats so they give them away for $25. Every student buys them and most only go to 1 game.
We dont need 6-7K empty student seats for every home game just so we can jam in 10K for PSU or Florida State. 5K student tickets is plenty.
Yeah, some of the stuff he says is mind blowing. Go read his ACC TV week 1 ideas. He has Louisville playing at 5:30 on Thursday, wants a Sun Belt game of the week at 9am on Saturday morning, etc.
Apparently the supply of cheap StubHub Pitt football tickets does not have you in the stadium often recently. The student section is pretty full in the lower bowl for nearly all games. Granted the upper deck seats are only filled for the big games, but they would not be full otherwise--as they are not desired seats locations. It is a very wise investment for the future of Pitt football and the Panther fan base to get the kids to the games, that is how future fans are made. Perhaps your tin-foil cap needs changed, as this idea is just simply as stupid as any you have ever advocated! Hail to Pitt!
Which is also why the Penguins continue the student rush program even though they probably do not need it anymore.
These people know what they are doing. Building goodwill is just as important as generating revenue. It will pay dividends in the future.
I did see the student section sold out their 12K allotment within the past week... Very, very good news. Does anyone know when the student section last sold out?
Stubhub info circles me back to the discussion regarding how many PSU fans actually bought season tickets. I know there are various ways to sell tickets, but if they bought as many as they claim, wouldn't you think there would be more than 2,500 tickets on Stubhub for the Marshall game. you would think they all would be dumping as many of the non-PSU games as possible.
Those aren't the tickets we are talking about. No wonder you are confused. We are talking about the 15k other seats.
I dont know how you are not understanding what I am saying. Currently, Pitt's student section is roughly 5K lowers and 5K uppers. The uppers only have people in them for the 1st game and a rare occassion (ND, FSU, PSU). What I am saying is if we had a smaller stadium, you would not give the students 10,000 of the 50,000 available seats considering 3K-7K will go unused to almost every game.
I am simply taking away a section that RARELY has anybody at all sitting in it. All those lower bowl students you love who leave at the end of Sweet Caroline, they still can come. The kid who finds $20 under his couch cushion and buys a season ticket to maybe go to 1 game, he'd have to pay $100 in a 5K student section meaning he wont do it but who cares, he wasn't a fan anyway. 5K is plenty big enough of a student section
There is simply no reason to extract more money from the students--none. They are paying one of the highest tuitions of a "public university" in the nation. The few extra dollars you charge would not make much of a difference for revenue any way. Affordable student tickets is a GREAT investment in the future of Pitt athletics by the University. Luckily, the people at Pitt understand. No reason to criticize the kids...they are the only excitement at the Pete and at Heinz Field. Hail to Pitt!
I said to raise the price and offer them some type of rebate every time their card is scanned AFTER the 4th quarter ends.
Listen, at a price of $25. Pitt is not selling student "season tickets." They are asking students to give them $25 so they can maybe go to a game or 2......maybe......if they're not to busy......if the weather is nice.
The goal wouldn't be to extract more money. The goal would be to limit the section to students who actually care to be there.
You love co.paring apples to Oranges. Big neutral site game vs big opponent vs home game against fcs opponent. Fans aren't making it to a 5:30 Thursday game for that. Post something else stupid.
Sorry, but this idea of yours is simply STUPID! The student section in the lower bowl is nearly always full for most games. Pitt has plenty of issues with the program, but limiting student attendance and hiking their season ticket prices are simply the dumbest "idea" you have ever uttered. Hail to Pitt!
Until the Pens lose and the exodus. You have to win here. In fact win big here and the price of tickets are secondary.
That's my point. The student rush keeps the future. Those kids will continue to come and that is why the pens still have it even in the good times.
Trust me. I was one of those kids back in the early 2000s. And I a current season ticket holder now and have been.
????????
Since when are fans thought of when it comes time for TV scheduling?
SECN's debut featured a 6PM kick between A&M at South Carolina, an inconvenient late afternoom weekday 5PM kick for 9 of the 14 SEC fanbases including A&M's.
Its all about ratings. You know this. I woukd fully expect ACCN to squeeze in 2 Thursday night games in Week 1. It simply makes more money for them than if they broadcast the 2 games regionally? You think ESPN cares if 8000 fewer people show up for Charlotte @ Louisville because the game kicked at 5:30 as opposed to 7? They aren't a charity.
And not that it makes any difference but Charlotte isnt FCS. They are in CUSA.
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Again,you're not comprehending. Those lower bowl student seats which you claim are filled for every game (for 3 quarters at least), those WOULD stay!!!!!!
I am saying to simply remove the upper deck student seats to condense the stadium down to 45K or 50K seats. You create more demand for the 5K student seats which enable you to charge more and ensure people who want to go will be there.
I am removing seats that go unused for all but 1-2 home games per year.
So you think it in a limited capacity stadium (say 50K seats), Pitt needs to allot 10K to students? I mean its no problem now because we arent selling 70K seats anyway except for rare situations but if capacity was limited, those never-used upper deck student seats would have to go.
You are trying to solve a problem that does not exist by creating a bigger problem. Go back to the drawing board on this one--it simply will not happen--and it should not. If Pitt could get a way with it, they ought to increase the number of seats that require a donation, as well as raising the donation level per seat--that would be the best way to raise revenue. Unfortunately I do not believe demand is high enough yet for Pitt to try this just yet. The idea that price will compel a person to attend a game they otherwise would not, simply is unproven. The guy next to me at Heinz Field has two club seats for which he donates $500 per ticket per season for the privilege of purchasing. He has used them once since the stadium opened, now that we have a new AD. He plans to use them twice this season. While I know it motivates you, money has very little impact on whether people attend a game or not. This is the very same reason that people are paying hundreds of dollars on StubHub for Pitt v. PSU tickets, when they could have purchased a season ticket for less. People pay for what they want. Hail to Pitt!
Jesus Pitt needs to do this because A) The students are buying them....B) Those other seats have a good chance of going unsold C) They need to get the young crowd interested in Pitt football due to the fact that Pitt lost a generation of kids because of the continuous tripping over their own balls........ Seriously step away for a minute
Still don't understand my point. Pitt has a few thousand true student fans, and many more who just go to drink and watch an hour or 2 of football. In a limited capacity 50K seat stadium, you simply dont have room for the 19 year old girl from Bucks County who cant name 1 player and is only going to the game so she can tailgate with her friends. She only paid $25 for the season, which is essentially a free ticket. In my plan, this student either has to pay $100 (most of it being rebated back if she stays for entire games) or not go. The $100 will scare off a lot of students and only the ones that want to be there, will be.
40K regular seats
5K student seats
3K visitors
2K corporate/university/recruiting
The fact Pitt would only be selling 40K regar season tickets in a limited capacity stadium would create more demand and higher prices.
There are plenty of 49 year old men from Blawnox that couldn't name 1 payer and are only there to tailgate with friends in that mix of 40k general seating..just saying.
I completely disagree with your premise that Pitt only has a few thousand student fans--the stadium says otherwise. Moreover, Pitt is not playing in a 50K seat stadium--so your silly rambling is absurd. Finally, the vast majority of student football season tickets are paid for by the kids parents--not the student. I see no reason to raise prices on the students. For any hypothetical and minimal raise in revenue that your "plan" would raise--there are about a hundred better ways to raise real revenue than on the backs of the students. In case you forgot, this is a university and it is actually about the kids and their college experience. Bottom line, Heinz Field is to large for the present fan base for a regular season....there is no way to wave a wand and magically make the stadium smaller than it really is. So back to reality, get as many people as you can into the stadium each game--and make the best of it. Hail to Pitt!
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