Prediction:Rutgers will surpass our program next year

[Joe the Panther Fan]

At Rutgers that is worthy of a statue and the stadium named after you. Maybe even the whole university named after you.

They’ve only been to 10 bowl games in program history, he was the coach for 6 of those teams. 3 of the other 4 were the 3 years immediately after he initially left.

But also remember how he compiled that record. They routinely played five non-conference games a year against teams that would have had a hard time beating IUP. I posted them all before and won't bother again, but they didn't play one good non-conference opponent in almost every season he was there.

Beat five soup cans in your non-conference games, go 4-3 in the crappy Big East and at the end of the season you are sitting there at 9-3. And you aren't actually all that good. But hey, 9-3.

As an example, see 2009. 5-0 in the non-conference with wins against Howard, Florida International, Maryland (2-10 that season), Texas Southern and Army. Not even a mediocre team in the bunch. Go 3-4 in the Big East in a year that the Big East ended up with three ranked teams (and Rutgers lost to all three). Win a crappy pre-Christmas bowl game. And viola, 9-4!

And hey, most coaches at Rutgers would have found a way to lose to that two win Maryland team or to Florida International. Or both. He should certainly get credit for that. But going 9-4 against a schedule like that isn't anything all that special.

 

[DruidTM]

Oh it’s Buttgers week for the Happy Valley faithful!

 

[Dointhatrag]

Havent heard from RutgersAl in awhile. New screen name buddy?

 

[Pittx9]

But also remember how he compiled that record. They routinely played five non-conference games a year against teams that would have had a hard time beating IUP. I posted them all before and won't bother again, but they didn't play one good non-conference opponent in almost every season he was there.

Beat five soup cans in your non-conference games, go 4-3 in the crappy Big East and at the end of the season you are sitting there at 9-3. And you aren't actually all that good. But hey, 9-3.

As an example, see 2009. 5-0 in the non-conference with wins against Howard, Florida International, Maryland (2-10 that season), Texas Southern and Army. Not even a mediocre team in the bunch. Go 3-4 in the Big East in a year that the Big East ended up with three ranked teams (and Rutgers lost to all three). Win a crappy pre-Christmas bowl game. And viola, 9-4!

And hey, most coaches at Rutgers would have found a way to lose to that two win Maryland team or to Florida International. Or both. He should certainly get credit for that. But going 9-4 against a schedule like that isn't anything all that special.

I agree, I wasn’t trying to make him sound like anything great. Just that Rutgers has been such a god awful program for forever, that his run of 4-3 and 5-2 finishes in the Big East was historically great for that school. They basically have no other relevant history.

 

[steelcurtain55.]

This should age as well as the "Larry Fedora is a real coach" threads from s few years ago.

 

[PittMan 72]

So you guys are gushing over a 2-4 team. LOL Okay

Yeah. It’s easy for some to make claims about things in the future for which they‘ll never be held accountable. Throw crap at the wall. See if anything sticks. And If/when it doesn’t, so what? It’s one of the beauties of conjecturing and making proclamations while posting anonymously on a blog. Just have to take it FWIW.

 

[9nationalchampionships]

I have no idea if some on here are fans that like to bitch and whine or they are trolls.

Yeah. It’s easy for some to make claims about things in the future for which they‘ll never be held accountable. Throw crap at the wall. See if anything sticks. And If/when it doesn’t, so what? It’s one of the beauties of conjecturing and making proclamations while posting anonymously on a blog. Just have to take it FWIW.

 

[PittMan 72]

I have no idea if some on here are fans that like to bitch and whine or they are trolls.

Probably some of both. Up to the reader to separate the rice from the rat poop.

 

[PittMiamiRivalry]

Maybe not next year but by 2022 yes. Say what you want about Schiano and his laughable NFL experience, but he’s a capable ncaa coach. Especially at a place like Rutgers.

West Virginia and Cincinnati have already passed us.

 

[Ghost of Pitt Stadium]

Pitt ranks #40 in the amount of money they spend on football. That is also where we are usually ranked.

They have the 4th highest spend in the ACC. And one participation trophy to show for it.

 

[TheSpecialSauce]

They have the 4th highest spend in the ACC. And one participation trophy to show for it.

His winning % in the ACC is right around 4th among active coaches. Once again - you get what you pay for.

 

[WannyandWalt]

His winning % in the ACC is right around 4th among active coaches. Once again - you get what you pay for.

I bet you reward your kids for C's on their report cards!

 

[9nationalchampionships]

Well this has not aged well

 

[Team_Pitt_Fan]

Coaching matters. I expect the wood chopper to compete with us for recruits now and have a better record than us next year.

Idiot

 

[HailToPitt725]

I’ll give them credit; they certainly looked much better this season than they have in recent years. However, they still have a long ways to go and I feel more confident about our chances in the ACC Coastal than their’s in the Big Ten East.

 

[joeydavid]

Well this has not aged well

This whole thread is too funny. The B1G is a dumpster fire this year. An absolutely terrible football conference and RU goes 3-6. Lol.

 

[BFo8]

Rutgers made undeniable progress this year, all you have to do is look at the records over the last 2 seasons.

2019 - Record of 2-10 and outscored 440-159
2020 - Record of 3-6 and outscored 289-240

Still woeful, but those teams bear no resemblance to each other. Their issue is will they continue to show progress next season, I lean towards no, but for them being competitive is a huge improvement over what they’ve been recently.

 

[cashisking884]

This whole thread is too funny. The B1G is a dumpster fire this year. An absolutely terrible football conference and RU goes 3-6. Lol.

What should they have gone?

 

[DruidTM]

Rutgers lost again

I have no idea WTF you Rutgers ballwashers are seeing?

 

[cashisking884]

Rutgers was 122nd in F+ last year...out of 130 teams. They were by far the worst team in P5 football.

Some of you’ll are wild.

 

[BFo8]

Rutgers was 122nd in F+ last year...out of 130 teams. They were by far the worst team in P5 football.

Some of you’ll are wild.

They were quite literally comic relief to watch last year, you almost had to tune in to see how horrible they were.

This year they were just another bad team, for them that is a major improvement.

 

[Dan1911]

Tough loss for them last night, but I believe they will be much better. Schiano built a nice program there last time around and he took the same players this year and vastly improved on where they’ve been for years.

 

[TD_6082]

He’s proven he can win the Coastal. Lose the championship. And lose a bowl game all in the same season. That’s tough to pull off. Pitt is one of two schools to pull off winning their division and finishing with a .500 record. Kudos. That’s why Pitt pays him $4 million a year.

Pitt is paying a premium just to keep him. Pitt hired 3 head coaches in 4 years after Wanny. One was let go before he coached a game, and the other two left for a perceived better job, despite a combined 4 year record of 25-27. Any good agent is going to use that to bend Pitt over when it comes to negotiating a contract.

 

[pittmeister]

What record would an elite coach have Rutgers at this year?

2-4

 

[HailToPitt725]

Pitt is paying a premium just to keep him. Pitt hired 3 head coaches in 4 years after Wanny. One was let go before he coached a game, and the other two left for a perceived better job, despite a combined 4 year record of 25-27. Any good agent is going to use that to bend Pitt over when it comes to negotiating a contract.

Did Pitt not void Haywood’s contract with cause? Can’t remember.

 

[pittmeister]

Well bless their hearts, they still love us over there....

Pitt LOL

Isn’t there a Pitt guy here? Awful quiet.

rutgers.forums.rivals.com

Rutgers = most delusional fan base
Penn State = the most arrogant fan base
WVU = the most obnoxious fan base

 

[BFo8]

Did Pitt not void Haywood’s contract with cause? Can’t remember.

Thankfully we were spared a Mike Haywood era at Pitt and his 18-40 career record. That guy was overmatched at Texas Southern, he would’ve been an unmitigated disaster here.

 

[TheSpecialSauce]

I nominate Tennessee for the dumbest football department.

 

[TD_6082]

Did Pitt not void Haywood’s contract with cause? Can’t remember.

I can't remember, but I assume that is correct.

But the perception and morale was extremely low at the time. Pederson was booted out the door literally the same time Paul Cryst was walking out of it.

 

[HailToPitt725]

I can't remember, but I assume that is correct.

But the perception and morale was extremely low at the time. Pederson was booted out the door literally the same time Paul Cryst was walking out of it.

Yup. We’re in a much better position now than we were six years ago. Not only do we have stability at the head coach position, but we now have it at AD as well. And, even if Narduzzi gets fired after next season, at least the cupboard won’t be bare.

 

[sherepower]

Rutgers golden era under Schiano was a trip to the sun bowl to play Iowa st. Put that into perspective. The very best year under Schiano amounted to a meaningless bowl game.

How did the recruiting compare between Rutgers and a Pitt this year???

Pitt had the 21st ranked class. Rutgers 35th which is the best I can remember they ever had.

Any fan outside both programs that knows the game realizes Rutgers is one the worst P5 program of all time. Pitt is stuck in mediocrity after having a elite program for a decade or so.

 

[BFo8]

Rutgers golden era under Schiano was a trip to the sun bowl to play Iowa st. Put that into perspective. The very best year under Schiano amounted to a meaningless bowl game.

How did the recruiting compare between Rutgers and a Pitt this year???

Pitt had the 21st ranked class. Rutgers 35th which is the best I can remember they ever had.

Any fan outside both programs that knows the game realizes Rutgers is one the worst P5 program of all time. Pitt is stuck in mediocrity after having a elite program for a decade or so.

Speaking of worst P5 programs of all time, you’re going to hear a lot more about Brent Brennan if they hang on for the win today. When I think of the hardest places in the county to win Rutgers, Vanderbilt, Rice, and Tulane come to mind, but I’m not sure if there is worse place to be a head coach than at San Jose St.

Im still not totally sold on Brennan, but you could see it coming last season and this year has been nothing short of amazing. There seems to be a push for him to take the Arizona job, and if it’s offered I expect he will.

 

[RaleighPittFan]

Speaking of worst P5 programs of all time, you’re going to hear a lot more about Brent Brennan if they hang on for the win today. When I think of the hardest places in the county to win Rutgers, Vanderbilt, Rice, and Tulane come to mind, but I’m not sure if there is worse place to be a head coach than at San Jose St.

Im still not totally sold on Brennan, but you could see it coming last season and this year has been nothing short of amazing. There seems to be a push for him to take the Arizona job, and if it’s offered I expect he will.

Fun Fact: I can remember when Baylor was in that group of hardest places to win.

 

[TheSpecialSauce]

Fun Fact: I can remember when Baylor was in that group of hardest places to win.

The same goes for Northwestern at one time.

 

[boseman7]

Aren't you guys the ones who laughed at me when I MADE the thread saying hire Greg Schiano?

 

[NTOP]

Havent heard from RutgersAl in awhile. New screen name buddy?

He was a lot of fun. A victim of NJ toxicity.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

Aren't you guys the ones who laughed at me when I MADE the thread saying hire Greg Schiano?

Well I laughed at you. And I'm still laughing, so there is that.

They played two good teams all year and went 3-6. The three teams they beat won two games each this season. Hooray for him, I guess?

 

[boseman7]

Well I laughed at you. And I'm still laughing, so there is that.

They played two good teams all year and went 3-6. The three teams they beat won two games each this season. Hooray for him, I guess?

But while your laughing at me, other teams are laughing at us for underachieving in spite of having more talent. So when Greg Schiano gets that Rutgers team to overachieve don't complain about us going 6-6 or 7-5 and losing to NC State and BC type teams. I wont see those complaints right?

 

[TD_6082]

I'm a big fan of Greg Shiano too. Rutgers won 3 Big 10 games this year, which is the same number they won the previous 3 years combined.

That said, they have a long way to go. The difference in talent between the Huskers and RU was glaring. Nebraska moved the ball at will on RU last night.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

But while your laughing at me, other teams are laughing at us for underachieving in spite of having more talent. So when Greg Schiano gets that Rutgers team to overachieve don't complain about us going 6-6 or 7-5 and losing to NC State and BC type teams. I wont see those complaints right?

Are those two things supposed to be mutually exclusive? Are people only allowed to laugh at one college football team at a time?

IF, not when, IF Greg Schiano gets Rutgers to overachieve then come back and talk. As I pointed out before, by far the best part of his previous tenure at Rutgers was the way that he was able to schedule some mediocre teams to good records that people who didn't pay attention didn't realize were a house of cards.

And no doubt, he is going to attempt the same thing this time around. He is going to pack the non-conference schedule with teams like he did the last time, teams like Texas State and Delaware and Florida International. But now instead of five of those games he's only going to get three of them. And he's going to get Maryland every year, so a good chance for a fourth. And then he's going to hope for a couple seasons (like this year, for example) when someone like Michigan State is really down and/or their crossover games end up being something like Purdue and Illinois and they'll schedule their way into six or seven wins and everyone will say "look, the great and powerful Oz has done it again!"

Meanwhile, don't look behind that curtain. You might not like what you see.