Listen Eleanor, he’s holding the city and fanbase hostage.
Not that it matters because the owner loves mediocrity. As you do too.
Sans KP, Steelers the worse for wear....
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Not that it matters because the owner loves mediocrity. As you do too.
If only there was someone beating this drum for a few weeks
Oh boo hoo hoo! The Steelers just went 10-8. Call victim services for their poor fanbase.
Seriously, your Tomlin obsession is approaching KennyHeisman8's KP fetish.
Take a breath, perhaps breathe into a paper bag!
I am approaching the point where I think if the Pirates and Steelers switched ownership, the Pirates would get worse and the Steelers would get better.
Though I will say, I do not understand why Shelton is back. Personally, Tomlin coming back makes more sense to me than Shelton coming back. At least Mike can point to ancient historic playoff success, and .500+ regular seasons. Shelton can't point to anything. I think the Buccos are wasting a full year of Skenes with Shelton managing in 2025.
It was leaked like less than a day from the Wild Card loss that Tomlin wasn't going anywhere. Rooney wasn't going to have that talk during the season or a week of playoff prep.
Fixed for ya. ^^^
Oh. And maybe you should tell those who cover the team to stop reporting new items every news cycle. Should we pretend these things aren’t happening? It’s the off-season and teams are making changes all around the league. But the Steelers are giving no indication that they are doing anything. When the fans are complacent, it gives the owner all the more reason to be complacent.
But hey maybe the Steelers will get really bold and rearrange some deck chairs.
I know you live out in Appalachia and not close enough or are smart enough to know what’s going on with the fanbase…but a majority of them, those sophisticated enough to know how things work, would cheer on a 3-14 season.
In the abstract, sure. But in the moment, while it's actually happening? You can't really think that. People would be losing their freaking minds.
Lots of time for them to make their adjustments.
Just Tomlin isn't going to be one of them, and never was.
Franchises that are moving on from their HC's and looking for new ones are active, that's about it. Clearly the Steelers aren't one of those.
NewsFlash: Accrisure will be sold out again next season, Tomlin or no Tomlin.
The real parallel is the Pens and Steelers ownership. Both think if they just tweak things they’ll get better results. Pens have been doing it longer and are now on the verge of being really bad. Steelers are not far behind
Anyone who thought they’d move on from Tomlin was dreaming. Just like anyone who thinks Tomlin will make any significant changes to his staff is dreaming.
Similarly if anyone thinks Dubas will start the rebuild this year is dreaming.
They absolutely will, sure. But they have the last 4 years too, knowing that the steelers will putter to 9-8 or 10-7 and the season will end in epic fashion and they’ll continue to spin their wheels with no end in sight. They also know that the last losing season yielded a franchise QB in the draft.
Old toothless Eleanor might yell and scream from her barstool at the Carpezzo Bar and Lounge, but she’s doing that anyway.
Not sure what your definition of "tweaking" is, but the Steelers have some major roster moves to make.
First, decide on QB. More than likely Fields on a 3 year deal.
Figure out the WR room. Either keep Pickens, and add a #1/1A to supplement him, or trade him and sign a top FA WR and pick one high in the draft.
Move Jones over the LT, get him healthy and see if he reaches his potential.
Find a RB replacement for Najee.
Add another top CB either by trade, signing or draft.
Get younger on D line.
Don't expect any major coaching adjustments because they never do, but personally would move Austin out. They won't but should.
But there are some pretty big differences there. Ownership of the Penguins decided (mostly for ticket selling reasons) that they wanted to keep the old band together for as long as they could, and they have thus limited what changes to the roster the GM can actually make. If Dubas decided the day that he got here that the correct path forward was to blow it all up and start from scratch he would have been prohibited from doing so by ownership.
On the other hand, if Mike Tomlin (and Omar Kahn) decide that blowing up the Stillers is the best path forward and they want to trade away guys like Watt and Fitzpatrick and pile up as many top draft picks as they could, they would have no problem what so ever getting ownership on board.
I’d be ok with Iron Mike if he brought in a Kingsbury type to lead the offense, and someone to run the defense instead of him. Gotta get a QB first though if you really want to rebuild. Their succession plan drafting Rudolph, then Trubisky, then drafting Pickett, then Russ and Fields was mangled.
Maybe we will be lucky and they will tank next year.
They had leads against the Browns and Cowboys into the final minute of each game, and the defense gave up last second TD's to lose both.
Those two wins would have clinched the AFC North, and changed the playoff picture significantly, by at least giving them a home game in the first round.
Can’t disagree.
Just about every super bowl over the last couple of decades was won by an elite HOF level QB. Knowing they didn’t have one after Ben, they tried to do it through the highest priced defense. While that isn’t the blueprint for a championship, it should have at least yielded some playoff wins. Instead it yielded blowout loses that the defense lost in the 1st quarter of games.
Yeah, right! You’re funny. Even out here in Appalachia with all the other branch campus dummies.
“Yay! 9-8. Yay! Yay! Keep it going we love non losing, non contending seasons and hampster wheels. “
-nitwits and halfwits
(When the last losing season yielded 3 Super Bowl appearances after drafting Ben)
Are guys like Ben available every year? Don’t forget Trevor Lawrence was the last can’t miss franchise QB. How ‘bout those Jaguars?
Good point. I was only pointing out both need to be done but neither will. Clearly for different reasons as you pointed out. I suppose the one constant is ownership for both is fine with tweaking
Generally true but they got no help from the offense either. The defense was over exposed by a bad offense.
Highest paid D in the league and not even top 10 rated. Is it coaching or the talent is over rated ?
KC is below 20 in salary on D and they are a top 10 D.
Don’t disagree. My point is they need to do ALL those things in addition to making coaching changes (OL and DC) but I doubt they make many of them
How about those Jags! Great example!
Playoff wins in the last 8 years:
Jags 3
Steelers 0
And one of those wins was vs the Steelers as a heavy underdog.
So yeah, they’re just another franchise that has surpassed the Steelers.
You’re not very good at this.
Sure he can. Rooney can say "Hey Mike.... there are teams out there interested in making a trade for you to be their coach. They offered a (whatever draft choice). I am considering a rebuild for the Steelers. I think I can trade away a number of our guys for some pretty high draft picks. It may be a good time for you to jump to a contender. If not, you better buy into my rebuild plan..... and stomach a losing season or two. And I am firing your O-line coach, your D coordinator, and your quarterbacks coach. I am hiring a "coaches challenge" coach because we need improvement there. I am going to require that you wear actual grown man clothes during practices and games because it's embarrassing to see you coaching in sweat pants. Are you sure you do not want to be traded to a contending team?"
I would take Trevor Lawrence on the Steelers in two seconds. I would trade Tomlin and pay his salary in perpetuity to Jacksonville for that trade.
Mel Kiper has egbuka mocked to the Steelers. https://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4567750/emeka-egbuka
Giving up long drives is what exposed the defense .
They couldn’t get off the field .
That’s on them .
I don't disagree with the sentiment but there were ten games where the offense scored under 20 points and they went 3-7 in those games (both the games you mentioned fell into that category). Averaged less that 3 points in the first quarter. Only one fourth quarter comeback all year. Yes, you should never let an aging Joe Flacco beat you and you shouldn't need a shoot-out to beat the Bengals but the offense has been a big problem for a while now.
Tomlin isn't stupid. Why would he agree to be traded knowing that his new team would need to give up multiple high rounds draft picks? It would be a huge win for the Steelers.
No you fool. Clearly that playoff statistic is the one and only measure of program success and isn't at all chosen because it's really the only factor that could possibly support his position.
Never mind that the Jaguars have only made the playoffs twice since Tomlin won a Super Bowl 17 years ago.
Never mind that the Jags have won 5 or fewer games in 11 out of those 17 seasons.
Never mind that the Jags have double digits wins once in the past 17 seasons.
Never mind that the Jags have only won their division twice in 17 seasons.
Never mind that the Jags have placed last in the NFL's weakest division for 8 of those 17 seasons.
Clearly, the Jags have surpassed the Steelers as a franchise.
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