It's fair to say the hire didn't work out, but it didn't set us back. In this era of college football, the only thing that is really going to set a P4 program back is failure in the portal/NIL.
So Bell is interviewing at Oklahoma?
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You may be right. But if ever we were going to make a jump to the next level, it was going to be then. It's likely going to take a long time to build back up to that point, if it ever happens.
Clemson beat Wake head to head so owned the tie breaker. If they beat Pitt the NCSU loss is meaningless.
That's a mirage. There is no magical season that is going to result in long-term program success. It used to be somewhat that way because success sparked better recruiting, and boosters were a little more willing to give a few thousand under the table to maintain it. It doesn't work that way anymore. TCU & Cincy can make the playoffs, then go right back to being TCU and Cincinnati.
Harsh reality.
I got that reminder first hand in Baltimore 2 weeks ago and watching a hoops game between Virginia & Villanova. Two basically useless afterthoughts in the world of today's college basketball.
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Clemson vs Pitt
Since Clemson beat WF (both 7-1 )
Miami beat Pitt but had 3 conference losses to our then 2.
As noted
if Clemson beats ncsu they also win their division .
Just like I stated
Are we trying to downplay Pitt's ACC Championship?
I don't know; everybody has to start somewhere. It's better to have good seasons than it is not to. It helps with fan interest/donations and also makes you a more desirable transfer destination. It's not that I don't get what you're saying or that I completely dismiss it. But guys do take discounts to play for certain teams. If they didn't, Pitt would have nothing but Nate Temples at every position.
Why do you think a non-division loss is more meaningful than the earlier division loss ?
They beat ncsu and wf- the outcome
Of the Pitt game doesn’t matter
Same way Miami losing to both unc and uva , made their win again pitt meaningless .
Nah
Was the most fun I had in decades -
Went to Charlotte and Atlanta to celebrate the team .
But it’s also no a reason to overpay Duzz with an albatross contract .
Both things can be true .
OU fired their OC earlier this year.
This weekend's game was all OU defense and shitty Bama QB play. OU's offense is atrocious. Milroe threw 3 pics & only ran for under 20 yards. I think OU only threw for 68 yards in the game.
Division loss didn't matter at all in this scenario. NCSU loss was in the books and they needed the Pitt game for the Wake head to head to even matter, which they lost, and hence quit controlling their own destiny. Which is why Pitt knocked them out of the Championship game.
It also didn't matter if Miami lost to in division teams. Division losses were meaningless in each scenario.
Agree. But most fans of college football aren't that bright. They make the coach the face of the program. The HC represents success or failure. Fans associate the two. Case in point is right here in my back yard with Tony Bennett. Hoos were still seen as a formidable program with a high ceiling the last 3 years as opposed to the mediocre outfit they had become in reality. It took the CSU NCAAT game to start opening some eyes.
Like I said, I totally agree with you. But that's what they do in the ivory tower. Curt Cignetti has already cashed in on one season. The huge influx of vets that have been in his program and made the jump to IU was a one-off. Let's see if they have the talent to maintain it.
Ole Miss is the one football program that signed their coach to a long term deal that is actually making a legit effort to back it up and fund NIL to recruit with the big boys. That still doesn't guarantee success, but it's absolutely necessary to sustain a competitive program.
He most definitely is because he doesn't want to give Narduzzi any credit for anything.
In that respect, he’s very unusual, if not unique.
Got any recent examples of guys who walked away from their P4 head football coaching gigs in the prime of their career ages? Guys who retired in their 70s after long careers don’t count.
