So if Pitt doesn't play OKST this year

[Sean Miller Fan]

and plays a buy game vs a G5 school instead, we are in a bowl game. Not that going to a bowl at 6-6 is a big deal but its better to go than to not.

I think most of us agree that there is no point in playing P5 home and homes that don't move the needle and that don't increase attendance by any real margin.

By ACC rule, we have to play 1 P5 home and home which will be PSU/WVU/ND more often than not. But for us to play a 2nd one, it would have to be one of those schools or:

Ohio State
Michigan
Florida
Tennessee (they travel and that's a cool road trip)
Alabama
Auburn
LSU
Texas
Oklahoma
USC

And its doubtful any of those schools would play us.

The home and home with OKST's parting gift and the brilliant home and home with UCF, months after declaring "no more G5 home and homes" was Barnes's parting gift. What morons.

 

[Sarge25]

If Pitt is in a bowl game, does the coaching staff know about the qb transfers?

If they were not aware of the qb transfers, would they have enough time to act on Town and get him inked?

This year sucked, i’m glad they are not in a bowl game. Less time wasted on a shitty team and more time to focus on next year’s team.

 

[pittengineer75]

I prefer playing a tougher OOC schedule than making any bowl game other than the CFB Playoffs. You get to pick your opponent, whereas with bowls its whatever bowl your conference purchases (bowls are bought, not rewarded). For that reason, give me the tougher OOC schedule with multiple P5 teams on it given that one will be a home game every two years (versus a neutral site game and some bowl games are in really crappy locations).

 

[Dan1911]

Agreed. I prefer losing to tough ooc teams and missing bowl games. As a bonus, we schedule schools where we don’t get recruits. Recruits and bowl games are no way to measure a program. We should measure ourselves by the tough ooc schools on our schedule we lose to every year.

 

[YourPittDanceTeam]

and plays a buy game vs a G5 school instead, we are in a bowl game. Not that going to a bowl at 6-6 is a big deal but its better to go than to not.

I think most of us agree that there is no point in playing P5 home and homes that don't move the needle and that don't increase attendance by any real margin.

By ACC rule, we have to play 1 P5 home and home which will be PSU/WVU/ND more often than not. But for us to play a 2nd one, it would have to be one of those schools or:

Ohio State
Michigan
Florida
Tennessee (they travel and that's a cool road trip)
Alabama
Auburn
LSU
Texas
Oklahoma
USC

And its doubtful any of those schools would play us.

The home and home with OKST's parting gift and the brilliant home and home with UCF, months after declaring "no more G5 home and homes" was Barnes's parting gift. What morons.

I would love to see Pitt play either Navy or Army in football every year. The games would be competitive most of the time and each of the school has a large following that would attend games in Pittsburgh. Add to that, the game day experience that both school bring along with them, it's a no brainer. If it's good for Notre Dame it should be good enough for Pitt. Also, Annapolis and West Point are only a short drive from Pittsburgh for away games. I'm sick of the games against Albany, Youngstown State, Citadel, Delaware, etc...

 

[wbrpanther]

and plays a buy game vs a G5 school instead, we are in a bowl game. Not that going to a bowl at 6-6 is a big deal but its better to go than to not.

I think most of us agree that there is no point in playing P5 home and homes that don't move the needle and that don't increase attendance by any real margin.

By ACC rule, we have to play 1 P5 home and home which will be PSU/WVU/ND more often than not. But for us to play a 2nd one, it would have to be one of those schools or:

Ohio State
Michigan
Florida
Tennessee (they travel and that's a cool road trip)
Alabama
Auburn
LSU
Texas
Oklahoma
USC

And its doubtful any of those schools would play us.

The home and home with OKST's parting gift and the brilliant home and home with UCF, months after declaring "no more G5 home and homes" was Barnes's parting gift. What morons.

Pitt needs to get it’s program to a place where we aren’t sweating out six wins in any given year. We had chances against Cuse, NC and VT to be bowl eligible.

 

[jtownknowitall]

Pitt is in a bad bowl if it beats North Carolina, Syracuse, Georgia Tech, Virginia Tech, NC State, Oklahoma State Or Penn State. The problem wasn’t the schedule.

 

[Cap pitt]

Blame you know who

Dixon?

 

[happjack]

I would love to see Pitt play either Navy or Army in football every year. The games would be competitive most of the time and each of the school has a large following that would attend games in Pittsburgh. Add to that, the game day experience that both school bring along with them, it's a no brainer. If it's good for Notre Dame it should be good enough for Pitt. Also, Annapolis and West Point are only a short drive from Pittsburgh for away games. I'm sick of the games against Albany, Youngstown State, Citadel, Delaware, etc...

I like the Panthers d-line keeping their knees in tact, so I’m all for leaving the Service Academies off the schedule.

 

[paulbl99]

Blame you know who

Haley???

 

[BuffetParrothead]

Blame you know who

My brothers three ex wives & four live in girlfriends???

Now dont get the wrong impression it wasn't all at the same time he spreads things out literally?

Signed: Mr Buffett
Go Pitt & CSU Rams!

 

[President Stache]

and plays a buy game vs a G5 school instead, we are in a bowl game. Not that going to a bowl at 6-6 is a big deal but its better to go than to not.

I think most of us agree that there is no point in playing P5 home and homes that don't move the needle and that don't increase attendance by any real margin.

By ACC rule, we have to play 1 P5 home and home which will be PSU/WVU/ND more often than not. But for us to play a 2nd one, it would have to be one of those schools or:

Ohio State
Michigan
Florida
Tennessee (they travel and that's a cool road trip)
Alabama
Auburn
LSU
Texas
Oklahoma
USC

And its doubtful any of those schools would play us.

The home and home with OKST's parting gift and the brilliant home and home with UCF, months after declaring "no more G5 home and homes" was Barnes's parting gift. What morons.

I honestly have no idea what this post means.

I would rather play 3 cupcakes and get ready for our ACC season. We might not make it to the championship final 4, like Wisconsin was in trouble of this year, but who cares? It works for many other teams. Having 9 wins each year is fine with me.

 

[Dan1911]

^^^this

 

[Pittparade]

Score from the 2 yard line vs. VT and/or UNC and Pitt is an easy bowl eligible qualifier.

Let's say Pitt had finished 7-5, where would they have played in a bowl this year?

 

[Swervin27]

If weah doesn't slow down on the 5 yard line, we go to a bowl too. Lots of ways to become bowl eligible besides playing a weak schedule.

 

[California Panther]

Lots of ways to become bowl eligible besides playing a weak schedule.

No, there is only 1 way to become bowl eligible--you must win 6 games. Doesn't matter whether you beat The Little Sisters of the Poor, or Oklahoma State, all you need is 6 wins, quality of wins doesn't matter at all. Nothing else gets you to a bowl but at least 6 wins.

 

[4Mark_Marty]

Dixon?

Stallings

 

[Safety Blitz]

and plays a buy game vs a G5 school instead, we are in a bowl game....

Depending upon which Pitt team shows up, defeating the G5 school is not necessarily a given.

 

[BFo8]

Score from the 2 yard line vs. VT and/or UNC and Pitt is an easy bowl eligible qualifier.

Let's say Pitt had finished 7-5, where would they have played in a bowl this year?

Probably today vs NIU in the Quick Lane. Maybe tomorrow vs Southern Miss in the Independence?

 

[Rockyhound]

Score from the 2 yard line vs. VT and/or UNC and Pitt is an easy bowl eligible qualifier.

Let's say Pitt had finished 7-5, where would they have played in a bowl this year?

I think they would have taken Duke's place in Detroit.

 

[TJOlsen]

If Pitt is in a bowl game, does the coaching staff know about the qb transfers?

If they were not aware of the qb transfers, would they have enough time to act on Town and get him inked?

This year sucked, i’m glad they are not in a bowl game. Less time wasted on a shitty team and more time to focus on next year’s team.

Yes the coaches always have a board of players in case anything ever happens. A bowl game every year shows consistency to recruits.

 

[Las Panteras]

I prefer playing a tougher OOC schedule than making any bowl game other than the CFB Playoffs. You get to pick your opponent, whereas with bowls its whatever bowl your conference purchases (bowls are bought, not rewarded). For that reason, give me the tougher OOC schedule with multiple P5 teams on it given that one will be a home game every two years (versus a neutral site game and some bowl games are in really crappy locations).

Laying off tougher p5 teams and beating up on speedbags is the quickest way to elevate your program from 6-7 wins to 9 wins and beyond.

For this reason I will disagree with every word of your post.

Not being able to choose who you play in a bowl is insignificant. I would also suggest.....that winning 9+ per year likely will result in that quality bowl opponent which you seem to desperately want to schedule in September......

 

[President Stache]

Laying off tougher p5 teams and beating up on speedbags is the quickest way to elevate your program from 6-7 wins to 9 wins and beyond.

For this reason I will disagree with every word of your post.

Not being able to choose who you play in a bowl is insignificant. I would also suggest.....that winning 9+ per year likely will result in that quality bowl opponent which you seem to desperately want to schedule in September......

It is true.

Plus, with our track record of fan support, we will get by-passed for the major bowls regardless... so why put undue stress on us. When we start winning more, Pittsburghers have showed they will show up more. Then winning will bring more recruits, and more consistency. THEN we can look into scheduling the bigger dogs every now and then.

But I am happy beating penn state every other year and also beating 2 other scrubs

 

[pittengineer75]

Laying off tougher p5 teams and beating up on speedbags is the quickest way to elevate your program from 6-7 wins to 9 wins and beyond.

For this reason I will disagree with every word of your post.

Not being able to choose who you play in a bowl is insignificant. I would also suggest.....that winning 9+ per year likely will result in that quality bowl opponent which you seem to desperately want to schedule in September......

9 wins isnt exactly meaningful. Only thing that is meaningful is (1) Conference Championship and (2) making the college football playoffs. Short of those things, you're basically just playing in a meaningless bowl game. We also are going to typically still get a fairly crappy opponent with 9 wins and at a meh destination, rather than a home game and picking which opponent to play. Far better than playing in NYC at a baseball stadium in December like we did last year (would never go back to a game at Yankee Stadium and certainly not for an opponent like Northwestern). ACC destinations for December (or anytime of the year) bowl games is not very good (vast majority of bowl game locations in general suck).

Playing a ranked Oklahoma State team though in September and seeing where you stack to them can help give a team that bump into the Top 25 since the preseason ranks are only based off of school names than anything tangible. Will take that any day of the week since there is a lot of time to plan to fly in for those games, rather than 2-3 weeks for bowl games around the holidays (people forget, not everyone lives in or around Pittsburgh).

 

[jtownknowitall]

What? You don’t want to spend Christmas holed up in a Days Inn in Shreveport, Louisiana?

 

[Dan1911]

9 wins isnt exactly meaningful. Only thing that is meaningful is (1) Conference Championship and (2) making the college football playoffs. Short of those things, you're basically just playing in a meaningless bowl game. We also are going to typically still get a fairly crappy opponent with 9 wins and at a meh destination, rather than a home game and picking which opponent to play. Far better than playing in NYC at a baseball stadium in December like we did last year (would never go back to a game at Yankee Stadium and certainly not for an opponent like Northwestern). ACC destinations for December (or anytime of the year) bowl games is not very good (vast majority of bowl game locations in general suck).

Playing a ranked Oklahoma State team though in September and seeing where you stack to them can help give a team that bump into the Top 25 since the preseason ranks are only based off of school names than anything tangible. Will take that any day of the week since there is a lot of time to plan to fly in for those games, rather than 2-3 weeks for bowl games around the holidays (people forget, not everyone lives in or around Pittsburgh).

Tell the kids a bowl game doesnt matter. Tell the recruits. Tell most normal fans. Wins are better than interesting losses. Youre delusional.

 

[poconopanther]

Tell the kids a bowl game doesnt matter. Tell the recruits. Tell most normal fans. Wins are better than interesting losses. Youre delusional.

Glad to see most are starting to agree that we need to tone down the out of conference scheduling whenever we could. Syracuse finally is getting into the three one scheduling after years of over scheduling which they cannot due because they yearly in the Atlantic Division have to play Celmson, Florida State and Louisville.This year they played Central Connecticut, Middle Tennessee, Central Michigan and Lsu. Next year they play Western Michigan, Wagner,UConn and Notre Dame. They just canceled a previously announced series for 20 and 21 with Wisconsin and in 2019 they will line up against Liberty,Western Michigan , Maryland and another group five opponent

 

[Sarge25]

Sweet, fans want football to take the Jamie Dixon route to success. Hopefully the AD doesn’t listen to you here. I don’t want an over inflated record because you play a bunch of bitch schools. You are who you are, those games should be eliminated by the NCAA.

 

[anon_vmuicqnzlyp3u]

Yes the coaches always have a board of players in case anything ever happens. A bowl game every year shows consistency to recruits.

Do you mean winning a big game and then shitting the bed next game? That type of consistency? Asking for a friend

 

[upj87]

and plays a buy game vs a G5 school instead, we are in a bowl game. Not that going to a bowl at 6-6 is a big deal but its better to go than to not.

I think most of us agree that there is no point in playing P5 home and homes that don't move the needle and that don't increase attendance by any real margin.

By ACC rule, we have to play 1 P5 home and home which will be PSU/WVU/ND more often than not. But for us to play a 2nd one, it would have to be one of those schools or:

Ohio State
Michigan
Florida
Tennessee (they travel and that's a cool road trip)
Alabama
Auburn
LSU
Texas
Oklahoma
USC

And its doubtful any of those schools would play us.

The home and home with OKST's parting gift and the brilliant home and home with UCF, months after declaring "no more G5 home and homes" was Barnes's parting gift. What morons.

So if Pitt doesn't play OKST this year....they end up playing a meaningless, soon forgotten game on a frozen granite baseball field in the Bronx where just landing on the turf is an excruciating experience instead of being at home with friends and family in warm cozy houses sipping cocoa....I don't know, SMF you make the call...

Now on to speculation based on the classic tome If You Give a Mouse a Cookie.....

 

[VAPITTALUM]

Sweet, fans want football to take the Jamie Dixon route to success. Hopefully the AD doesn’t listen to you here. I don’t want an over inflated record because you play a bunch of bitch schools. You are who you are, those games should be eliminated by the NCAA.

Agree those games should be eliminated by the NCAA, but they won't be due to the massive financial gain these smaller schools receive by playing these games.

Take a look at the majority of the SEC, BIG, and some of the ACC; they all play these games early and sometimes mid-season. PITT has been both lauded and criticized for their tough OOC the past couple of seasons.

No one remembers a team who played a tough OOC while make it's way to an 8-win season; you can bet people would have been extremely happy had PITT played a weak OOC last year on it's way to a 10-win season. There are a good number of people who say PITT hasn't achieved anything under Narduzzi, providing evidence that beating two eventual Top-5 teams in one season did nothing to move the needle for the program. Meanwhile, other programs were praised for their double-digit win season while beating a bunch of nobodies.

Alabama faced FSU (terrible this year, not Bama's fault), Fresno State, Colorado State, and Mercer. Even if FSU is a solid team this year, that OOC is a joke.

Wisconsin's schedule has been well-documented, as have teams like Washington and others.

 

[cashisking884]

Tell the kids a bowl game doesnt matter. Tell the recruits. Tell most normal fans. Wins are better than interesting losses. Youre delusional.

I can see it both ways. Recruits probably want to see bowl games and a minimum level of winning. So scheduling weak teams will help with that.
I also get how paying weak teams to come get beat up on probably hurts too. You guarantee an empty stadium, and probably guarantee the game will be streamed on the ESPN app only. It's difficult to create national momentum when nobody cares about you for the first 4 weeks of the season, and can't turn on the tv and watch you.
I'd probably still side with going to a weaker OOC schedule, but I gt there are drawbacks to it as well.

Not being able to choose who you play in a bowl is insignificant. I would also suggest.....that winning 9+ per year likely will result in that quality bowl opponent which you seem to desperately want to schedule in September......

Not really. Bowl games are more tied to conference placement, and then when that is done, how well you travel, how many eyeballs you are going to bring to the screen, etc. are far more important. Inflating out of conference wins doesn't do anything for our conference record.

 

[MyNameisJoe]

and plays a buy game vs a G5 school instead, we are in a bowl game. Not that going to a bowl at 6-6 is a big deal but its better to go than to not.

I think most of us agree that there is no point in playing P5 home and homes that don't move the needle and that don't increase attendance by any real margin.

By ACC rule, we have to play 1 P5 home and home which will be PSU/WVU/ND more often than not. But for us to play a 2nd one, it would have to be one of those schools or:

Ohio State
Michigan
Florida
Tennessee (they travel and that's a cool road trip)
Alabama
Auburn
LSU
Texas
Oklahoma
USC

And its doubtful any of those schools would play us.

The home and home with OKST's parting gift and the brilliant home and home with UCF, months after declaring "no more G5 home and homes" was Barnes's parting gift. What morons.

If your Aunt were a man, she'd be your Uncle

 

[OhioPittFan]

The OSU and Bama’s of the world don’t go
out and play 2 power 5 H&H’s - why the heck would we?

There’s very few P5’s in general that play the schedule we do regularly. For most it’s one P5, 2 non P5’s and a FCS.

The other thing is the P5’s we have scheduled are upper 1/3 of conference teams - ND, PSU, Ok St, Nebraska, MSU, Iowa, Texas A&M, etc. we aren’t scheduling Kansas, Illinois, Rutgers, Vandy, Oregon st, etc. If you want to be playing 2 P5’s the 2nd better be a program that’s generally a bottom end team. And your other 2 games must be low-end MAC or SunBelt or FCS. Not Cincinnati and Toledo.

 

[BuffetParrothead]

If your Aunt were a man, she'd be your Uncle

This isn't necessarily true these days since she ( his aunt) could be transgender or confused with her gender and could still be his Aunt!

Or maybe she ( his aunt) doesn't want to commi to a gender, so his Aunt could be either his Uncle or his Aunt at the time she or he decides what she or he is or wants to be.

Simple Right?

 

[MyNameisJoe]

This isn't necessarily true these days since she ( his aunt) could be transgender or confused with her gender and could still be his Aunt!

Or maybe she ( his aunt) doesn't want to commi to a gender, so his Aunt could be either his Uncle or his Aunt at the time she or he decides what she or he is or wants to be.

Simple Right?

Damn millennials

 

[RaleighPittFan]

If your Aunt were a man, she'd be your Uncle

What if your aunt's name was, say, Caitlyn Jenner?

 

[Pitt79]

This year sucked, i’m glad they are not in a bowl game. Less time wasted on a shitty team and more time to focus on next year’s team.

I'd rather have any bowl game at 6-6, why? Because then there would be a bowl game I'd want to watch. As it stands, I haven't watched more than a couple series of a couple of these "who cares" games, If Pitt is in a game, then I'd at least have one that I'd want to see. Me getting entertained for 3-4 hours matters more to me than them focusing on next years run to a minor bowl.

 

[steel_curtain]

Sweet, fans want football to take the Jamie Dixon route to success. Hopefully the AD doesn’t listen to you here. I don’t want an over inflated record because you play a bunch of bitch schools. You are who you are, those games should be eliminated by the NCAA.

-Yes, I would love to beat up garbage and be ranked in the Top 3 like Wisconsin, have national talking heads talking about my school, drawing hype, while filling up a stadium by doing so. Where can I sign up.

-Yes, I would love to backdoor my way into Conference Titles games, even if I lost the game 59-0 like Wisconsin does, Ill still finish 10-2 and ranked in the Top Ten.

-Yes, I like the feeling of being ranked.

-Yes, Pitt sells out far better when the team is ranked. The 65K at the Pitt Cincy game proved that theory. Fans show up when Pitt wins. Fans dont show up when they lose, see the 5-7 season this year and our basketball program that has worse attendance than Prairie View or Duquense.

-No, Jamie Dixon and TCU is irrelevant since they are going to get boatraced again in Big 12 play again in we are talking about football, not basketball.

-And Yes, did I say like be ranked as a school instead of 5-7 seasons?

-And Yes, I like the idea of the unknown. Baylor boatraced garbage for years, and was a National Title contender for years by beating up shit and running up the score.

-Must feel good to be ranked. I dont know the feeling anymore, in football or basketball.

 

[Pitt79]

I prefer playing a tougher OOC schedule than making any bowl game other than the CFB Playoffs. You get to pick your opponent, whereas with bowls its whatever bowl your conference purchases (bowls are bought, not rewarded). For that reason, give me the tougher OOC schedule with multiple P5 teams on it given that one will be a home game every two years (versus a neutral site game and some bowl games are in really crappy locations).

F that! give me 9-3 beating I-AA teams and get me a New Year's weekend bowl against somebody beatable. That's more fun than losing to "quality" opponents, to me a quality game is any one we won.