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TEMPLE TO GET NEW STADIUM! 2/15/16

When Pedersen was axed, Pitt FB was on life support and he was fired for this reason and the reason that Gallagher was unequivocally advised that any coach worth a $hit wouldn't come to Pitt so long as he was the AD and the same could be said for so long as Nerdy was chancellor. And if you follow the rise and fall of Pitt hoops, the fortunes of the BB program follow quite nicely with Pedey boy's tenure. Boehm hired JD and then Long replaced Boehm and Pitt hoops was doing quite nicely when Nerdy rehired his idiot friend. Pitt hoops went in the tank on Pedersen's watch. Pedey boy has the Midas touch, everything he touches turns to crap. How can you possibly deny any of this?

You are right. How didn't I see it before?

It was Steve Pederson's fault Sam Young didn't close off Scottie Reynolds. And it was Pederson's fault that Dante Taylor never developed into the All-American he was expected to be. And it was Pederson who encouraged Khem Birch to transfer and told Steven Adams that he should go to the NBA after only one year.

I'm convinced.
 
Disciples of the two stooges- you have that right. Very puzzling....

He'll just go off and do more research in his ample free time trying to justify Nerdy's stupid decisions. Pay-Co.
I have no allegiance or relationship with either.
I'm just not a blind more of the context of both the financial and Program health of both programs before nordenberg and after.

That you fail to acknowledge factual things isn't my problem.
 
You all need to excuse CrazyPaco and SoufOaklin4Life, as they are both disciples of Steve from their days as students/young alums, and still under his influence. The result is that both of these gentlemen will argue against almost every decision that would reverse something Steve has been responsible for or heavily involved with, i.e. moving football back onto campus, using the script, etc.

Paco, why don't you make your case against some of the more well thought out posts like that of Dr. Von Yinzer, instead of always attempting to attack what you perceive as the lower hanging fruit posts in every stadium thread?

I don't have a problem with what Von Yinzer is calling for or saying for the most part, not that the public would likely ever see the results of such a study, which for all anyone knows has already been done. We know architectural plans were rendered for a replacement stadium and other athletic and non-athletic projects that have never gotten off the ground for various reasons including the results of feasibility studies. If a study hasn't been done, it should be, because there always should be contingency plans. I know that there have been contingency plans so it doesn't worry me.

And by the way, we've had people post on here through the years with actual experience in development and construction projects in Oakland and Pittsburgh, but they were flippantly dismissed by those with absolutely no insight or experience since what was shared simply didn't mesh with whatever self-invented narrative was being bandied about that day. So I don't see how a study would quell the masses or satisfy anything.

There is not a single Pitt person on this board or elsewhere, that I am aware of, that actually believes that in a Pitt utopia we'd wouldn't have an on-campus, refurbished, Pitt Stadium. Personally, I guarantee I have more souvenirs of Pitt Stadium in my collection than 99% of people on this board. However, some of us like to deal with reality and facts and discuss actual probably solutions to issues...and sometimes we feel compelled to explain why things are how they are and why things are likely to be how they are going to be (although that is has proven essentially futile on these boards the past few years). We don't have Bigelow Blvd closed down either, and there are reasons for that have nothing to do with a lack of commitment or trying or vision. There is a reason there is no on-campus stadium on the horizon too.

In the mean time, Narduzzi is out there trying to sell what we do have, which is pretty substantial in its own unique right, although some fans refuse to get behind the vision he is trying (and in fact has no choice but) to sell. People need to understand what we have and what we are as a university and athletic department, including the advantages that we can leverage. Squawking about greener grass all the time only undermines the sale, and frankly, changes nothing.

The "low hanging fruit" that you refer to is low hanging because it is either flat out wrong or based on ignorance, and years of experience have taught me, unfortunately, that much like trying to have a conversation with a JoeBot about institutional responsibility, that it is equally worthless to have a conversation with a Stadiumbot or Stevebot, where the facts and data are routinely ignored in the name of a commitment to basing the center of one's universe on all things anti-Pederson or anti-Heinz. These people are often pushing a narrative that is also detrimental to the athletic department because, frankly, they don't know what Pitt is, has, or doesn't have and are unwilling to learn. Perhaps if people were rationale, or perhaps had just reasonable comprehension skills, instead of singular minded obsessions that seek to qualify any deliverer of fact that contradicts their invented narratives as pro this or anti that, then they might see the difference.
 
You are right. How didn't I see it before?

It was Steve Pederson's fault Sam Young didn't close off Scottie Reynolds. And it was Pederson's fault that Dante Taylor never developed into the All-American he was expected to be. And it was Pederson who encouraged Khem Birch to transfer and told Steven Adams that he should go to the NBA after only one year.

I'm convinced.
No, but it was Pedersen's fault that Durand Johnson was suspended and others just like him because of his puritanical rules.. It was also Pedersen's fault that Dixon was given a lifetime contract in the nadir of his tenure. You're a Pedersen/Nerdy lackey and croney, perhaps even an ex-Pitt staffer, so I wouldn't expect to convince you. If I convinced you, you have to admit you were part of a shabby, hapless administration.
 
No, but it was Pedersen's fault that Durand Johnson was suspended and others just like him because of his puritanical rules.. It was also Pedersen's fault that Dixon was given a lifetime contract in the nadir of his tenure. You're a Pedersen/Nerdy lackey and croney, perhaps even an ex-Pitt staffer, so I wouldn't expect to convince you. If I convinced you, you have to admit you were part of a shabby, hapless administration.

More opinions absent of facts followed up with inaccurate insults.

You're a dope.
 
Did you really blame
No, but it was Pedersen's fault that Durand Johnson was suspended and others just like him because of his puritanical rules.. It was also Pedersen's fault that Dixon was given a lifetime contract in the nadir of his tenure. You're a Pedersen/Nerdy lackey and croney, perhaps even an ex-Pitt staffer, so I wouldn't expect to convince you. If I convinced you, you have to admit you were part of a shabby, hapless administration.
WOW did you really blame SP for DJ's actions and not DJ. Who do you blame when it's your fault?
 
Dixon was pissed at Pedersen too - where have you been, clueless?
Talk about clueless. Again DJ knew the rules. So again DJ is a fault. I get pissed at my boss big whoop. And if you think SP didn't have the backing on the rules then you're......Do I really need to say it again?
BTW I am a not a SP fan so no need to go there. I met him once and that was one time too many.
 
When Pedersen was axed, Pitt FB was on life support and he was fired for this reason and the reason that Gallagher was unequivocally advised that any coach worth a $hit wouldn't come to Pitt so long as he was the AD and the same could be said for so long as Nerdy was chancellor. And if you follow the rise and fall of Pitt hoops, the fortunes of the BB program follow quite nicely with Pedey boy's tenure. Boehm hired JD and then Long replaced Boehm and Pitt hoops was doing quite nicely when Nerdy rehired his idiot friend. Pitt hoops went in the tank on Pedersen's watch. Pedey boy has the Midas touch, everything he touches turns to crap. How can you possibly deny any of this?
I'm not agreeing that BB is dead. Beyond that, I have nothing but scorn for SP.
 
Wow... the State can't even pass a budget but there is somehow hundreds of millions of tax payer dollars for football stadiums?

Excellent prioritization PA.

Cruzer
It is not about the money. Not in McKeesport, Allegheny County, nor Pennsylvania or the USA. It is about appropriations and special interests and so called "National Defense" priorities, as in payoffs.

And if anything PITT would probably use their appropriation to rebuild the Field House and build a track.
 
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I would just like to see some actual numbers and realistic plans rather than the wildly speculated numbers/plans that have no/little basis in reality that we often see on here.

Half of you make it sound like it can be done easily and with chump change and would be clear sailing from beginning to end. That is completely ridiculous. There would be a ton of financial and political hurdles but the university would have to overcome to even start this process. If it were to ever get approval, which is no sure thing, this would clearly be a major project that may or may not make sense for the university as a whole.

However, the other half of you make it sound like Pitt's building an on campus stadium is some sort of impossible dream and would constitute the most complex and expensive architectural puzzle in the history of Western Pennsylvania. That too this clearly untrue.

I don't think a project like this would cost Pitt almost twice as much as it cost to build Heinz Field. That's just as difficult to believe as some of the other numbers around in support of building an on campus stadium.

Again, I don't know if we'll ever have the loot to pull off something like this? Further, I don't know if it would ever be an investment that we could justify?

Finally, even if we could do it and decided to go for it, I am not sure helpful the residence and politicians that represent those residents would be in that endeavor?

The hurdles are many, they are great, and they are very, very real. I would just want to find out how exactly how many hurdles we're talking about and how tall they are? That seems like the only reasonable approach to this situation.

Now this is a rational approach...one step at a time.....
 
No, but it was Pedersen's fault that Durand Johnson was suspended and others just like him because of his puritanical rules.. It was also Pedersen's fault that Dixon was given a lifetime contract in the nadir of his tenure. You're a Pedersen/Nerdy lackey and croney, perhaps even an ex-Pitt staffer, so I wouldn't expect to convince you. If I convinced you, you have to admit you were part of a shabby, hapless administration.
I am shocked you can get your knuckles off the floor long enough to type on a computer....
 
If you really believe everything you read about politicians, you know that they lie a lot. Pitt just redeemed a $250,000,000 - 5% bond. Pitt could reissue under that number and it will be bought in up in 30 minutes to institutional investors alone. But the fact is that it won't take any bonds to build this stadium. It will only take the Pitt Endowment to back the construction mortgage until the naming rights of the Stadium as sold for 25 years at $200,000,000 (Philips Technology just bought the naming rights at the Atlanta Hawks new arena for 8.5 million annually. And PPG wouldn't like to be as comparable in the Pittsburgh and World Advertising stage as say PNC Park, Consol Energy Center or Heinz Field? Call the new Pitt Stadium PPG Stadium. The Tepper family Stadium ~ David Tepper being our most gracious Pitt alumni philanthropist.....to CMU! [Tepper has fully funded the entire Pitt basketball teams scholarships / look it up!] COME ON PEOPLE! IF GALLAGHER SAYS YES ~ IT'S GONNA GET BUILT! HELL, JIMBO COVERT COULD BUILD THE DAMN THING HIMSELF PRIVATELY IF HE WANTED TO DO IT!
NOW YOU'RE TALKING ZEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE2222222222222!

JIMBO COVERT FIELD AT UPMC STADIUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1


MAKE IT HAPPEN
 
You are right. How didn't I see it before?

It was Steve Pederson's fault Sam Young didn't close off Scottie Reynolds. And it was Pederson's fault that Dante Taylor never developed into the All-American he was expected to be. And it was Pederson who encouraged Khem Birch to transfer and told Steven Adams that he should go to the NBA after only one year.

I'm convinced.

It always seems like basketball to you. Have you been to the casino lately?
 
To the bored and rude, the more you attack the www.newpittstadium.com

The more you put my inital post infront of others, and who really reads anything after the original posts anymore on page one? But I will tell you that according to the site administrator that the internet traffic viewing on www.newpittstadium.com registered 2,145 this morning. Thank you again
 
To the bored and rude, the more you attack the www.newpittstadium.com

The more you put my inital post infront of others, and who really reads anything after the original posts anymore on page one? But I will tell you that according to the site administrator that the internet traffic viewing on www.newpittstadium.com registered 2,145 this morning. Thank you again

Oh Anthony…you foolishly confuse activity for success.

How's that fundraising going? Have you broken a buck yet?
 
Most of the political scandal in PA happens east of the Alleghenies. Therefore, that's where all the money gets divided. Don't believe me? Take a ride east. They have back roads nicer than the parkway.
The winters are much worse in the Alleghenies and west. The roads take a much harsher beating due to the freeze/thaw factor. That's the main reason the roads are always worse on this side of the state.
 
Any money Pitt received from the State can be directed to build a new Track and Field Stadium which Pitt actually needs.

A $126 million Stadium would be a pretty much bare bones erector set.

Rutgers recently (a couple years ago) added 10,000 seats to their old stadium and it cost $100 million.

No Thanks

HAIL TO PITT!!!!




Track and Field stadium. Now that's hilarious. Having the best football program in the state would bring big time benefits to the university. The 10 year plan must be financially comitted to that effort. When the goals are satisfied and monies are flowing then pass money to the other areas.
 
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