The ACC problem

[pierre93]

This Clown is twisting himself into a pretzel.

He should admit he's wrong and accept it. There's no question that the committee was biased for certain conferences.

 

[TD_6082]

Well, the Pitt win vs the Wolfpack must've been significant to them. They haven't lost since

I don't follow. What was at stake for UNC in that game?

 

[Chairman Moe]

Absolutely. Of course they were. But who did they beat? What stands out about there resume that says they should be in the tourney?

They still couldn't beat UNC or Clemson. They lost to terrible Miami team. The only decent wins were against bubble teams like UVA & Wake. There's a 91-58 loss to Wake mixed in there too.

I can forgive the Miami loss. It was the third of three consecutive road games. Two tough road wins (Duke and GT) and Miami hadn't imploded as yet, at that moment

 

[TD_6082]

He should admit he's wrong and accept it. There's no question that the committee was biased for certain conferences.

The committee had nothing to do with Pitt losing on their home court to a team that went 0-19 in the SEC.

 

[TD_6082]

I can forgive the Miami loss. It was the third of three consecutive road games. Two tough road wins (Duke and GT) and Miami hadn't imploded as yet, at that moment

Miami really had issues all year. That was obvious the night they were ran out of Rupp.

 

[Chairman Moe]

I don't follow. What was at stake for UNC in that game?

Maybe I wasn't clear. NC State's last loss was to Pitt. I have no idea what UNC had at stake

 

[pierre93]

Absolutely. Of course they were. But who did they beat? What stands out about there resume that says they should be in the tourney?

They still couldn't beat UNC or Clemson. They lost to terrible Miami team. The only decent wins were against bubble teams like UVA & Wake. There's a 91-58 loss to Wake mixed in there too.

Sorry, but you're wrong. The MWC was like Swiss cheese and big10 is still overrated. Pitt would've easily been in the Sweet 16. You're just like the committee in making your own set of rules etc.

 

[TD_6082]

Maybe I wasn't clear. NC State's last loss was to Pitt. I have no idea what UNC had at stake

Lol. I meant NC STATE. Haha.

 

[Chairman Moe]

Miami really had issues all year. That was obvious the night they were ran out of Rupp.

And Pitt nearly won the game in Coral Gables. Lots of teams got run out of Rupp. Hell, 'Bama lost to UK twice this year

 

[pierre93]

The committee had nothing to do with Pitt losing on their home court to a team that went 0-19 in the SEC.

Early early loss but keep the committee narrative going.

 

[TD_6082]

Sorry, but you're wrong. The MWC was like Swiss cheese and big10 is still overrated. Pitt would've easily been in the Sweet 16. You're just like the committee in making your own set of rules etc.

Pitt most certainly would not have EASILY been in the Sweet 16. That's a ridiculous statement.

 

[TD_6082]

Early early loss but keep the committee narrative going.

What point in the season was the 91-58 loss to Wake?

 

[pierre93]

The NCAA tournament is a flawed system with major bias. Certain conferences and teams get catered to. No way should these smaller conferences deserve automatic bids.

 

[TheSpecialSauce]

Absolutely. Of course they were. But who did they beat? What stands out about there resume that says they should be in the tourney?

They still couldn't beat UNC or Clemson. They lost to terrible Miami team. The only decent wins were against bubble teams like UVA & Wake. There's a 91-58 loss to Wake mixed in there too.

The ACC proves year in and year out that it’s one of the best, if not the best basketball conference by beating other teams head to head. The MWC and the Big 12 didn’t deserve a combined 14 bids. The ACC proved on the court that they deserved more than 5 bids and Pitt had 6 quality wins. NC St (2), WF (2), Duke, and UVA.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Pitt most certainly would not have EASILY been in the Sweet 16. That's a ridiculous statement.

Maybe not. But they were a Top 10-15 team. An absolute crime they werent in.

 

[TD_6082]

And Pitt nearly won the game in Coral Gables. Lots of teams got run out of Rupp. Hell, 'Bama lost to UK twice this year

Okay. Now do the January 10th home loss to Louisville.

 

[Chairman Moe]

Lol. I meant NC STATE. Haha.

Well, apparently - to you - every game has an "at stake" situation. Look, Pitt did not get into the tournament. I get it and I've gotten past that. Now that NC State is on a roll, the wins we had vs them are/were significant. To Pitt fans. To the players.

 

[pierre93]

Pitt most certainly would not have EASILY been in the Sweet 16. That's a ridiculous statement.

No its not but speaking of ridiculous......

 

[TD_6082]

Maybe not. But they were a Top 10-15 team. An absolute crime they werent in.

😂 No they weren't.

 

[pierre93]

Well, apparently - to you - every game has an "at stake" situation. Look, Pitt did not get into the tournament. I get it and I've gotten past that. Now that NC State is on a roll, the wins we had vs them are/were significant. To Pitt fans. To the players.

Yeah considering it's a Pitt message board and all. He's just a troll as well some others on here. Typical PITA

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

The committee had nothing to do with Pitt losing on their home court to a team that went 0-19 in the SEC.

And yet after that game, Mizzou was 2-0 vs P6 teams. Their SEC record is meaningless for 2 reasons:

1. The committee literally doesn't consider conference record. Its a Q3 loss. You'd like to not have that Q3 loss but all bubble teams have Q3 losses. FAU had 2 Q4s and Temple 2 spots away from Q4

2. The SEC was the best conference

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Absolutely. Of course they were. But who did they beat? What stands out about there resume that says they should be in the tourney?

@ Duke
@ UVa
@ NC St
Wake
Wake
NC St

Never been a P6 team left out with 7 road wins

Great metrics

Eye test

No brainer. Shouldn't even been in Dayton.

 

[pierre93]

@ Duke
@ UVa
@ NC St
Wake
Wake
NC St

Never been a P6 team left out with 7 road wins

Great metrics

Eye test

No brainer. Shouldn't even been in Dayton.

7 road wins and left out was a slap in the face.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

I don't see them as being that significant. NC State is a different team now than they were in the regular season.

And Pitt was a different team the last 2.
months! Top 10-15 metrics the last 2 months. 14 games vs ACC's Top 7 compared to 8 for UVa.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

7 road wins and left out was a slap in the face.

But we had a bad non-con! So what, our overall SOS was fine. Our ACC draw was brutal!

 

[TD_6082]

@ Duke
@ UVa
@ NC St
Wake
Wake
NC St

Never been a P6 team left out with 7 road wins

Great metrics

Eye test

No brainer. Shouldn't even been in Dayton.

To overcome where Pitt was at the end of January, that's weak.

Are you seriously trying to make the argument that UVA, Wake, or NCSU were anything other than mediocre?

 

[TD_6082]

And Pitt was a different team the last 2.
months! Top 10-15 metrics the last 2 months. 14 games vs ACC's Top 7 compared to 8 for UVa.

The opportunity was there for Pitt to win the ACC Tourney too, ya know.

 

[pierre93]

 

[TD_6082]

7 road wins and left out was a slap in the face.

Other than a handful of people on this board, Pitt getting left out was not a surprise to anyone.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

To overcome where Pitt was at the end of January, that's weak.

Pitt didnt need to "overcome" anything. They look at the whole season. Those are better wins than UVa had. You want me to do UVa's?

@ Clem
Florida neutral
Texas A&M
Wake
NC St

That's weak! And if you even say 2 of those are non-con so they count more, I am going to lose my mind

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

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A lot of this is on ESPN. I can understand the MWC cheerleading from CBS but ESPN cant employee a stooge like Lunardi killing the ACC every 15 minutes for 2 weels

 

[pierre93]

A lot of this is on ESPN. I can understand the MWC cheerleading from CBS but ESPN cant employee a stooge like Lunardi killing the ACC every 15 minutes for 2 weels

Power of the media and conferences pay them to build up certain ones. Corrupt

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Power of the media and conferences pay them to build up certain ones. Corrupt

The ACC and ESPN are business partners. They should not be having Lunardi and others bash the ACC. CBS has the MWC contract and you have those guys jerking off to the MWC. "The most exciting league in college basketball" is what Matt Norlander called it. No cap.

 

[TD_6082]

Pitt didnt need to "overcome" anything. They look at the whole season. Those are better wins than UVa had. You want me to do UVa's?

@ Clem
Florida neutral
Texas A&M
Wake
NC St

That's weak! And if you even say 2 of those are non-con so they count more, I am going to lose my mind

Im not arguing Virginia should have been in the tournament. I don't think they should have.

Funny you bring up Virginia. UVA's incompetence is the main reason a lot of Pitt fans think they should be in the tournament, and the ONLY reason NC State is in the tournament.

 

[TheWerewolfFromTwilight]

Pitt is 3-1 against teams in the Elite 8. Anyone with a brain knows Pitt deserved a bid.

3-3 actually.

 

[Pantherwalk]

Obviously the selection committee cared.

Pitt lost to Missouri. They were swept by Syracuse. They lost to Clemson & Miami. You tend to gloss over those inconvenient facts.

You mean the elite eight Clemson Tigers?
Aren't you some PSU wrestling fan?

 

[TheSpecialSauce]

To overcome where Pitt was at the end of January, that's weak.

Are you seriously trying to make the argument that UVA, Wake, or NCSU were anything other than mediocre?

What was UVA’s home winning streak when we played them?

 

[pierre93]

What was UVA’s home winning streak when we played them?

Great point and uva was never the same after that. Very demoralizing loss

 

[Pittisit4me]

Next thing you know the national pundits will say is the ACC is not a good conference, they just get lucky when playing in the NCAA Tournament. Lol, year after year our conference shows out!

 

[TheSpecialSauce]