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The definition of buyers remorse

I am envious of browns fans though. every year on draft day, they get to see their team pick as soon as it starts. As a steeler fan, I have to wait hours upon hours after it starts to see who my team picks in the first rd..
 
Because it would guarantee that you'd waste at least one top four draft pick.

Of course it's the Browns, so they are already guaranteed to waste at least one top four draft pick, so there is that.
Not necessarily. They could trade one of them in a year.
I think they should draft Barkley and see who is there at 4 .
They will screw this up.
 
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Browns should take a qb at 1 and a qb at 4. Why not?
you see, I think the opposite. I think they should avoid a qb all together. the team is bad, REAL bad, they are missing ALOT of pieces. you could have Joe Montana in his prime and put him on that roster and he'd suck. until you get a decent roster together, drafting a qb in first rd every year will provide the same results.

Get a line together, get some talent and then get a QB on the FA market, win some games, develop some kind of offense and then you go all in with a franchise QB. how many times can you make this mistake before realizing your error.
 
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you see, I think the opposite. I think they should avoid a qb all together. the team is bad, REAL bad, they are missing ALOT of pieces. you could have Joe Montana in his prime and put him on that roster and he'd suck. until you get a decent roster together, drafting a qb in first rd every year will provide the same results.

Get a line together, get some talent and then get a QB on the FA market, win some games, develop some kind of offense and then you go all in with a franchise QB. how many times can you make this mistake before realizing your error.
Their biggest problem is the HC.
 
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you put any QB on this roster, give them one year to prove themselves, everyone will be a bust. I don't know what they expect to see here. it's not like they are giving them 2 or 3 years, they give them one year and to do what? Lead this team to wins? no QB on the planet can win without talent, it's impossible. It's a QB Draft bust formula
 
To be fair....they seem to be building a great defense. Garret....Peppers is terrific. If they grab Chubb their D is in good shape.
 
Not necessarily. They could trade one of them in a year.


So your plan would be to turn a top four draft pick this season into like a third or fourth rounder next season. Because that's about what you'd get for a guy who wasn't good enough to beat out the quarterback who just went 2-14. Or even worse, the quarterback who was a big part of going 2-14.

There is a very, very slim chance that doing that would work out. And a huge possibility that it would be a disaster. Including the possibility that you trade the guy who looks a little worse next year but who turns out to be a really good quarterback in the long run while keeping a guy who turns into, well, a typical Browns quarterback.

If you don't think that there is a quarterback worth the number one pick you pick someone else. If you do think that there is a quarterback worth the number one pick then why on earth would you waste the number four pick in the draft for a guy who if you turn out to be right will never play for you?
 
Yeah I would never draft two quarterbacks in top 4, I was just saying if they did, they could trade the one who got beat out.
I hope they draft Barkley so I can root against him twice a year.
 
To be fair....they seem to be building a great defense. Garret....Peppers is terrific. If they grab Chubb their D is in good shape.
Julius Peppers? Because Jabrill Peppers is a great athlete masquerading as a safety. The one int he had last year was against the Steelers so maybe that is inflating your opinion. But remember that was against Landry Jones and the backups in a meaningless game the last week of the year.
 
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Not necessarily. They could trade one of them in a year.
I think they should draft Barkley and see who is there at 4 .
They will screw this up.

Better off drafting Chubb than Barkley IMO. Not a knock on SB, but 1:1 money is a lot to pay a RB. Not to mention there’s a chance of Guice, Michel etc in Rd 2. Not sure there’s a comp to Chubb there.
 
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Their biggest problem is the HC.

Without question. He is so bad that the Front Office stopped giving him information because they think he is the source of the leaks to the media. Think about that for a second. The Front Office won't tell their head coach what their draft plans are because they think he is the leak to media.

How have they not fired this bum already. Just a flat out awful beyond belief coach.
 
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Martavis Bryant trade rumors .....maybe tonight.
Would like to see Steelers dump him for another pick.
I still like Mason Rudolph in early 2nd if they can move up in that round.
 
Martavis Bryant trade rumors .....maybe tonight.
Would like to see Steelers dump him for another pick.
I still like Mason Rudolph in early 2nd if they can move up in that round.
If Colbert can get a 2nd for Bryant he should be helping him pack his bags. Kid is talented, but a headache and they have proven they can find a guy with enough talent to slide in as #3.

Agree on Rudolph.
 
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Bryant is a tough call. No question he is a total dope. But he is also a talent who is making a relatively small salary. He was like 700K but I think the NFL bumped him up to 1.7 million or something due to outperforming his contract. So he was a great bargain at 700K but is still a bargain at 1.7 million too.

So you can't give him away but a 2nd would be hard to pass up. Just don't see any team giving that for him with only 1 year left and being a failed drug test from basically being out of the league.
 
you put any QB on this roster, give them one year to prove themselves, everyone will be a bust. I don't know what they expect to see here. it's not like they are giving them 2 or 3 years, they give them one year and to do what? Lead this team to wins? no QB on the planet can win without talent, it's impossible. It's a QB Draft bust formula
Their roster really isn't that bad. They have a very good WR corps after adding Landry. They have a young TE with a ton of potential. They have a pair of very good Gs. They are relatively weak at OT after Thomas retired, but hope they can reclaim the career of Shon Coleman. Unfortunately this draft is weak at OT. At RB they signed Carlos Hyde. You add a #1 pick QB and give him Saquon Barkley in the backfield with that unit and that offense has tons of potential. They would still have picks #33, 35, and 64 in the 2nd/3rd round to try to find an OT and then bolster the defense. Hell, if it were me in the war room I would take your top QB (Darnold or Mayfield) at #1, Barkley at #4, and try to trade #33 and 35 for a mid 1st to get McGlinchey. If Barkley is gone, I'd trade with Buffalo for #12 and 22. Take McGlinchey at #12 and you have 22, 33, 35, 64, and 65 to absolutely stack your roster with talent.

Their coach is terrible and I expect that leads to them ruining the new QB. I think with the right coach the Browns could be 8-8 next year with Taylor or a good pick of a Franchise QB.
 
If there's more than one qb they like, the only logical move is Barkley #1 and a qb at #4. Since it's the browns I guarantee it will be a qb at #1 and then them scrambling around at #4 wondering what the hell they should do. I could make a case for Barkley not going #1, but I can't make a case for Cleveland not taking him #1 when they also have the 4th overall pick.
 
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Their roster really isn't that bad. They have a very good WR corps after adding Landry. They have a young TE with a ton of potential. They have a pair of very good Gs. They are relatively weak at OT after Thomas retired, but hope they can reclaim the career of Shon Coleman. Unfortunately this draft is weak at OT. At RB they signed Carlos Hyde. You add a #1 pick QB and give him Saquon Barkley in the backfield with that unit and that offense has tons of potential. They would still have picks #33, 35, and 64 in the 2nd/3rd round to try to find an OT and then bolster the defense. Hell, if it were me in the war room I would take your top QB (Darnold or Mayfield) at #1, Barkley at #4, and try to trade #33 and 35 for a mid 1st to get McGlinchey. If Barkley is gone, I'd trade with Buffalo for #12 and 22. Take McGlinchey at #12 and you have 22, 33, 35, 64, and 65 to absolutely stack your roster with talent.

Their coach is terrible and I expect that leads to them ruining the new QB. I think with the right coach the Browns could be 8-8 next year with Taylor or a good pick of a Franchise QB.

The browns could use mcglinchy for sure....but I think he won't last past Oakland at 10
 
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If there's more than one qb they like, the only logical move is Barkley #1 and a qb at #4. Since it's the browns I guarantee it will be a qb at #1 and then them scrambling around at #4 wondering what the hell they should do. I could make a case for Barkley not going #1, but I can't make a case for Cleveland not taking him #1 when they also have the 4th overall pick.
You take your #1 QB and then you can have Barkley, Chubb, or picks #12 and 22 for the 4th pick. You can't risk your 1 or 2 QB being picked if you think someone is a franchise QB. If you don't think any are franchise QBs, you don't take them at 1 or 4.
 
Their roster really isn't that bad. They have a very good WR corps after adding Landry. They have a young TE with a ton of potential. They have a pair of very good Gs. They are relatively weak at OT after Thomas retired, but hope they can reclaim the career of Shon Coleman. Unfortunately this draft is weak at OT. At RB they signed Carlos Hyde. You add a #1 pick QB and give him Saquon Barkley in the backfield with that unit and that offense has tons of potential. They would still have picks #33, 35, and 64 in the 2nd/3rd round to try to find an OT and then bolster the defense. Hell, if it were me in the war room I would take your top QB (Darnold or Mayfield) at #1, Barkley at #4, and try to trade #33 and 35 for a mid 1st to get McGlinchey. If Barkley is gone, I'd trade with Buffalo for #12 and 22. Take McGlinchey at #12 and you have 22, 33, 35, 64, and 65 to absolutely stack your roster with talent.

Their coach is terrible and I expect that leads to them ruining the new QB. I think with the right coach the Browns could be 8-8 next year with Taylor or a good pick of a Franchise QB.
Barkley probably won't be there at #4. I suspect if the Browns don't take him he'll come off the board #2 to the Giants. At #4 you'll still have one of Mayfield, Darnold or Allen
 
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Wow Browns suck ----------- lost Barkley. idiots.
They could have had Barkley and a better QB.
Mayfield has terrible judgement, I question his intelligence and ability to read defenses, and he has below average height/weight/speed. I will be very surprised if he becomes an elite QB.
 
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The Browns could have moved back in the draft and landed the guys they picked. Wow! Where there is a will, there is a way. Way to go Brownies!

I am convinced you could give them the first 5 picks in the draft, and they’d still f’ it up.
 
Browns had 2 of the first 4 picks and they don't get any of the top 5 players.
 
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