I made the mistake of listening to the FAN just now to get the reaction or commentary from the game last night. I can't remember his name but the talk show host is the guy that got caught with a DWI and is back to broadcasting after being a persona non grata. He starts off by criticizing the location of the bowl game that we played in and then starts reminiscing about his days covering PSU and how great it was going to warm weather cities for New Year's bowl games. No mention of the actual game last night since he didn't ever bother to watch or attend it. How do we put pressure on the Administration to get on another station that would at least report on our teams? I don't want cheerleading but I don't want a bunch of PSU/Syracuse idiots reporting on Pitt
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you are referring to Paul Alexander, who has gone on record as stating Pitt could be a giant in CFB if the administration would let it happen.
In fact, he is the only media type that sees Pitt as a potential national player. The rest, along with many Pitt fans are fine with mediocrity.
In fact, he is the only media type that sees Pitt as a potential national player. The rest, along with many Pitt fans are fine with mediocrity.
PITT needs a major in Journalism, and The Fan would be able to select PITT grads for The Fan jobs and not import the fakes they have on the show today.
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Alexander is an arrogant jerk but, frankly, he has usually been very fair to Pitt despite being a Nitter. Certainly better than some of our "own" media like Bozo Smizik.
Guy Junker was the guy busted for picking up a hooker if. I remember correctly
I wouldn't say he is fair to Pitt. He is just not as bad as the others. We should not set such low expectations on our reporting.
They did play an extensive post game show last night. I was surprised.
If you ever see or call the show and get Paul
I know Alpo... he’s is definitely arrogant.
You're missing my point. I thought that a discussion of the game would have been the first thing to bring up about last night's game - not the freaking venue. Forget about who and where we played, the game played on the field was good viewing for a neutral football fan. Talk about the actual game and not some tired comparison to PSU.
Yes, that 'should' be the topic, but when you play EMU in Detroit for your bowl game, it's hard to blame the media for making the location the central topic.
Frankly, Pitt will usually get jobbed as long as the bowl games themselves have the choice. Either the bowl games should be set in stone based on conference finish, ,or the conference needs to decide who goes where, which of course the joke ACC will never do.
Here is a better idea. Pitt alums show up and support the team. A better atmosphere will help the team, recruiting, and better bowl selections.
He reminisced fondly about covering 11 NY day bowl games in a row at PSU. In one, he had to wait to see where PSU would go - either outback on NY day or something like quick lane in Detroit day after - he couldn’t recall. He let out a happy yelp when PSU scored at MSU and was on their way to Florida. Oh happy times. That’s when I turned him off.
Better build and on campus stadium then, AND have the admin support the team with half decent coaches.
Im assuming it must bug him that Penn St is a hell of a lot closer to Pitt as a program then they are to the Clemsons, Ohio St’s, and Alabama’s of the world.
We had an on campus stadium and the support was the same or even worse. I am so sick and tired of all the excuses from the fans for not supporting the program.
Not really. Penn State's recruiting ranking is usually (always?) a lot closer to that of Clemson and OSU than to Pitt's classes, which are often not even in the top 30. Penn State's attendance is much closer (or better?) than those top programs. I bet their coaching salaries are closer to the top schools than they are to Pitt's coaching salaries.
Support from the admin was not there. The stadium was allowed to deteriorate and they didn't even try to hire good coaches. It's not a valid comparison, in my opinion.
PS alums go out of their way to look for ways to support their program unlike the losers in our fan base who do not support the program and always look for a black cloud.
Can you blame Pitt fans for always looking for the black cloud when it comes time and time again? Until very recently the morons in charge constantly made bad decisions. It really is unbelievable how often they focked up.
Remember when the Steelers and Penguins went to Detroit and won championships? This city was all nuts!! The media coverage was wall to wall. It was constant. Hell, they may have even thrown those teams a parade!!! They led off newscasts, had teams of reporters.
So then Pitt goes up and wins the Quick Lane Bowl Championship and little coverage and we get ripped on. They really hate Pitt.
So then Pitt goes up and wins the Quick Lane Bowl Championship and little coverage and we get ripped on. They really hate Pitt.
I love the part where he says Franklin is locked up at PSU because of the huge 1 million buyout. Franklin wanted that incredibly low buyout so he always has an easy way put
I hope you are sarcastically comparing Pitt's bottom of the barrel bowl game to professional sports championship games.
Alexander was honest in saying that in his opinion franklin is an excellent recruiter but more of a ceo coach who will never be able to get past OSU or even Michigan or Michigan st in some years. Said Franklin is now 3rd highest paid coach at 7 mil and needs to show better success to get to playoffs rather than just a decent bowl game.
PS alums increased their donations during the Pedophile Scandal. PS alums are constantly promoting their school even during a vile scandal. Pitt fans look for excuses and do not promote the positive aspects of an excellent university and its athletic programs. If Pitt alums aren’t going to promote their university and city, then you are just opening the door for PS and WV fans to trash Pitt.
Talking about just athletics and specifically football, Pitt alums have a lot to be embarrassed about with MOST of those problems being a result of the admin at Pitt screwing things up over and over again. It's NOT the fans at fault. As some posters like to say, Pitt has made the incrediby simply seem extraordinarily difficult.
Really what about Pitts two revenue sports deserves positive coverage ? Pitts Fb team is mediocre at
best . How can anyone be excited about barely beating an EMU team that finished under .500 . While I feel there’s not much hope in Pitt ever returning to its past glory in Fb I’m somewhat optimistic that JC will make Pitt an exciting team to root for in time .
Some journalists tell it like it is and others just take extreme positions to generate a response .
Getting upset with the local media coverage is silly , they’ve just as fickle as the fans are and when and if Pitt puts a good team on the field / court they’ll be just as effusive in their praise as the band wagon fans are .
best . How can anyone be excited about barely beating an EMU team that finished under .500 . While I feel there’s not much hope in Pitt ever returning to its past glory in Fb I’m somewhat optimistic that JC will make Pitt an exciting team to root for in time .
Some journalists tell it like it is and others just take extreme positions to generate a response .
Getting upset with the local media coverage is silly , they’ve just as fickle as the fans are and when and if Pitt puts a good team on the field / court they’ll be just as effusive in their praise as the band wagon fans are .
Sadly, he is 100% accurate about the Pitt administration not really doing its best to return the football program to its once national status.
Just like to point out that very few bowl spots are "earned". Between the bowl selection committees and the conference heads, the selections are based upon "potential money generated" by the selected schools fan base. Sadly, we are all aware of the small number of fans who can't make it to a home game, let alone a bowl game 6 hours away.
That’s cute. Pitt will never be a national player, administrative support or not.
I will disagree with this, other than a very short period in the late 70’s to early 80’s Pitt football hasn’t had national status in over 80 years.
Even the glory days you’re referring to were almost 40 years ago, that’s an eternity in sports years. What we are now is pretty much going to be the standard. Still would be nice to have that one great season every decade or so though.
No. I am not. That was completely honest..........................................
or not.
You know, and I used to bang my head against the wall arguing with Del on this point, that the whole landscape of college football has changed so much since Pitt was last a national power. And for those not old enough, we were definitely a national power. But that ain't coming back. Ever.
I always equate college football to a red state vs blue state type of situation. If you go to the Electoral Map, usually the football powers are in the red areas, those who aren't can be red, because there are more of them, but very few "blue" shaded areas have major programs? It has nothing to do with politics but everything to do with urban areas and urban areas have pro teams, especially NFL. There are no top 25 markets except maybe Atlanta or Charlotte, where college football is more important or popular than the NFL. Pittsburgh is not just among this group, but it is probably one of the most strongest NFL markets.
People just don't have the time to devote fall weekends to two teams. I know more Pitt alums that are avid Steelers fans than I do Pitt alums that are avid Pitt fans. That might be sad, but if you are a kid, you grew up in Western Pa, you likely were a Steelers fan first, and let's face it we don't have to compare the on field product now do we?
So .....this long winded post, yeah. The infrastructure is not here, the landscape no longer exists where schools like Pitt, Miami, even the LA schools are feeling this become powers for extended times. Especially Pitt. There are just not enough players in our natural recruiting areas to be consistently good.
That all being said, there is also no reason why it is impossible for Pitt to find an 11 win season every score (20 years) and we are going on 2 scores (40 years) without.
I do not think that franklin is a good recruiter at all. What players have committed to penn state because of franklin? I'm thinking a very small number. Most of their recruits go there because they see the 90,000+ at home game. If you switched Pat Narduzzi and franklin, I bet the penn state football program would have at least the same number of wins, if not more. If franklin was coaching Pitt, they'd have less.
