The New Pitt Stadium - Over 110,000 views!

[Z #2]

www.newpittstadium.com has over 110,000 + views since inception nearly one year ago! I tried to pin down the exact number from the site administrator by she would not divulge. I'd say that it draws interest. TIDBIT: GSPIA study has been found and is in the hands of the Chancellor and staff. Also, Pitt has commissioned study focusing on three potential sites for New Pitt Stadium ~ all in Oakland.

www.newpittstadium.com

 

[VAPITTALUM]

#110k

 

[JoseLind13]

Is that because you have posted the link 110k times on this board... Or maybe it is because of the pure comedy of looking at the "professional" content?

 

[pittengineer75]

God would that be an awful place for a stadium for traffic and there is no graphics of stadium parking in that design either.

 

[King Of All Message Boards]

Are you really that starved for attention? What a pity.

 

[UPitt129]

Was discussing this with my father yesterday. There are a lot of reasons that we agreed a football stadium there doesn't work.

Usage:
The stadium would be used for major events maybe ten to 15 times a year...7 games, 4-6 concerts, and graduations. It does not make send to a university committed to spend 300 million plus on a stadium for limited usage. It also doesn't make sense in general to spend public dollars on a football only facility. While a baseball stadium is used at least 81 times, the football stadium a fraction of that. Three series in a baseball season probably have as much economic impact on surrounding bars and restaurants as an entire football season does. Even an nhl/nba arena gets far more usage as there are usually a ton more indoor events outside of just the games, including concerts, and larger events like the NCAA tournament.

Infastructure:

Parking is already hard enough in Oakland during a bball game, and if you park in a garage, it already can take over an hour to get out of it. Now triple the crowd, or quadruple it.... Also, the idea if shuttling people has been floated, up ton10 or 20k if the crowd. How do you accomplish that? You would literally have to have about 500 buses at the ready if you assume a bus seats 100 people. That once again is not reasonable.

Location:

Quite simply, there is not currently a good spot. Up behind the Pete would be a logistical nightmare. Honestly, I would stop buying tickets if it was up there. Anywhere else you have to starting tearing down buildings, and buying land that would cost a ton of money.

Cost:

Speaking of money, where does it come from? Pitt's first priority is education, so it shouldn't be fully funded by the university. Tax payers aren't going to agree to it. We aren't raising the money either. Pitt fans are notoriously cheap, so we ain't getting 300 million dollars.

Basically, this while idea really needs to be taken out back and shot.

 

[billyberoux]

www.newpittstadium.com has over 110,000 + views since inception nearly one year ago! I tried to pin down the exact number from the site administrator by she would not divulge. I'd say that it draws interest. TIDBIT: GSPIA study has been found and is in the hands of the Chancellor and staff. Also, Pitt has commissioned study focusing on three potential sites for New Pitt Stadium ~ all in Oakland.

www.newpittstadium.com

What's the cost estimate?

 

[pitt-girl]

www.newpittstadium.com has over 110,000 + views since inception nearly one year ago! I tried to pin down the exact number from the site administrator by she would not divulge. I'd say that it draws interest. TIDBIT: GSPIA study has been found and is in the hands of the Chancellor and staff. Also, Pitt has commissioned study focusing on three potential sites for New Pitt Stadium ~ all in Oakland.

www.newpittstadium.com

 

[Swervin27]

Was discussing this with my father yesterday. There are a lot of reasons that we agreed a football stadium there doesn't work.

Usage:
The stadium would be used for major events maybe ten to 15 times a year...7 games, 4-6 concerts, and graduations. It does not make send to a university committed to spend 300 million plus on a stadium for limited usage. It also doesn't make sense in general to spend public dollars on a football only facility. While a baseball stadium is used at least 81 times, the football stadium a fraction of that. Three series in a baseball season probably have as much economic impact on surrounding bars and restaurants as an entire football season does. Even an nhl/nba arena gets far more usage as there are usually a ton more indoor events outside of just the games, including concerts, and larger events like the NCAA tournament.

Infastructure:

Parking is already hard enough in Oakland during a bball game, and if you park in a garage, it already can take over an hour to get out of it. Now triple the crowd, or quadruple it.... Also, the idea if shuttling people has been floated, up ton10 or 20k if the crowd. How do you accomplish that? You would literally have to have about 500 buses at the ready if you assume a bus seats 100 people. That once again is not reasonable.

Location:

Quite simply, there is not currently a good spot. Up behind the Pete would be a logistical nightmare. Honestly, I would stop buying tickets if it was up there. Anywhere else you have to starting tearing down buildings, and buying land that would cost a ton of money.

Cost:

Speaking of money, where does it come from? Pitt's first priority is education, so it shouldn't be fully funded by the university. Tax payers aren't going to agree to it. We aren't raising the money either. Pitt fans are notoriously cheap, so we ain't getting 300 million dollars.

Basically, this while idea really needs to be taken out back and shot.

you would stop buying tickets if pitt built an on campus stadium?? That's a first..

 

[UPitt '89]

So you clicked on it 100K times yourself, right?

That is the ugliest, most unprofessional rendering I've ever seen.


And it is never ever ever ever ever happening.

Never.

 

[Delpanther]

Was discussing this with my father yesterday. There are a lot of reasons that we agreed a football stadium there doesn't work.

Usage:
The stadium would be used for major events maybe ten to 15 times a year...7 games, 4-6 concerts, and graduations. It does not make send to a university committed to spend 300 million plus on a stadium for limited usage. It also doesn't make sense in general to spend public dollars on a football only facility. While a baseball stadium is used at least 81 times, the football stadium a fraction of that. Three series in a baseball season probably have as much economic impact on surrounding bars and restaurants as an entire football season does. Even an nhl/nba arena gets far more usage as there are usually a ton more indoor events outside of just the games, including concerts, and larger events like the NCAA tournament.

Infastructure:

Parking is already hard enough in Oakland during a bball game, and if you park in a garage, it already can take over an hour to get out of it. Now triple the crowd, or quadruple it.... Also, the idea if shuttling people has been floated, up ton10 or 20k if the crowd. How do you accomplish that? You would literally have to have about 500 buses at the ready if you assume a bus seats 100 people. That once again is not reasonable.

Location:

Quite simply, there is not currently a good spot. Up behind the Pete would be a logistical nightmare. Honestly, I would stop buying tickets if it was up there. Anywhere else you have to starting tearing down buildings, and buying land that would cost a ton of money.

Cost:

Speaking of money, where does it come from? Pitt's first priority is education, so it shouldn't be fully funded by the university. Tax payers aren't going to agree to it. We aren't raising the money either. Pitt fans are notoriously cheap, so we ain't getting 300 million dollars.

Basically, this while idea really needs to be taken out back and shot.

So why is it that at least 95% of div 1 college programs have their own on campus stadiums? Because your arguments about cost and the number of times the stadium is used as just BS and have never held back a university which is serious about FB to build a stadium. All your arguments resonated with the 2 dumbest administrators Pitt has ever had, they being Pedey boy and Nerdy. There will be a new Pitt stadium.

 

[UPitt129]

you would stop buying tickets if pitt built an on campus stadium?? That's a first..

Yes. If they built up on top of the hill above the Pete I would. That would not be worth the hassle to get in and out of.

 

[Tiger Paul Lives]

It's not happening any time soon, if ever.

 

[Pittx9]

Honestly I think Pitt playing at Heinz Field would have had to been a monumental failure for Pitt to ever move back to Oakland. I think they realized how much more convenient it is for non-students to get to the North Shore than Oakland. May not be soon, but if the Steelers decide they need a new stadium and want to replace Heinz, I don't think Pitt moves back to Oakland still. Even a stadium for just Pitt football in the future I think would be built somewhere else in the city off-campus.

 

[Musikprince]

There's a bunch of unimaginative, whiny fcking babies on this board! Yes I said it...

 

[Swervin27]

Yes. If they built up on top of the hill above the Pete I would. That would not be worth the hassle to get in and out of.

well that obviously would be your choice.. Pittsburgh fans are weird in this way, their prioritizing convenience with relation of parking/accessibility in and out of stadium.. Kind of goes along with why our city is notorious for leaving games early. at first, I thought it was an "age" thing, older people wanting to get home but it's just as prevalent in younger people as old, in this city.. you look at any campus thread, you get 1/2 the posters saying it's not possible because you need at least 3 major highways to have access.. I mean, you can't have a stadium that causes traffic, gasp, could you imagine?? Traffic?? It's almost as if many people value accessibility over the actual venue itself.. Oh well, I guess that's what makes Pittsburghers unique..

 

[upitt33]

Peterson sports complex location is/was the best place for a 40-50k stadium.

 

[pitt-girl]

So why is it that at least 95% of div 1 college programs have their own on campus stadiums? Because your arguments about cost and the number of times the stadium is used as just BS and have never held back a university which is serious about FB to build a stadium. All your arguments resonated with the 2 dumbest administrators Pitt has ever had, they being Pedey boy and Nerdy. There will be a new Pitt stadium.

Del - if Pitt invests in highly expensive Oakland real estate and unimaginable infrastructure change for a football stadium vs. desperately needed student housing, I would reconsider my annual donation.

 

[eastcoasthoops]

This again?

Seriously?

 

[raleighpanther]

I was thinking of starting a post that went like this: there is so much excitement with Pitt football right now, with daily recruiting updates, that even though its off-season, we haven't been subjected to any posts on star ratings or the need for a new on-campus stadium in a long time. Which is a really good sign of the state of Pitt football.
Well, the clock ran out on me, so I wasn't able to post it. Damn.

 

[raleighpanther]

By the way, I was in Los Angeles 27 years ago, and someone brought up the idea of building an on-campus stadium for UCLA. (They didn't and still don't have one; neither does USC). People pointed out that it would require tearing down valuable Westwood property, there would be nowhere to park, it would be very expensive in a time of rising tuition costs, and they had a big stadium to play in already. The idea died and no one ever brought it up again.

Of course, that was pre-Internet, so no one was able to post an Etch-a-Schetch drawing of a potential Westwood stadium on a website. That might have made all the difference in the world.

 

[Delpanther]

Del - if Pitt invests in highly expensive Oakland real estate and unimaginable infrastructure change for a football stadium vs. desperately needed student housing, I would reconsider my annual donation.

Well that's your and others' prerogative. I respect that right even though I believe it's narrow minded and in some ways vindictive. There will be those like me who will significantly increase their donation! Add to that I believe there's concrete evidence that a highly successful athletics program ultimately benefits the entire university and generates both income and publicity which more than compensates from lost donations from individuals who consider/treat athletics as a poor stepchild at universities.

 

[Parkview57]

$300,000,000/110,000 = $2750 per viewer....will they sell beer?

 

[pitt-girl]

Well that's your and others' prerogative. I respect that right even though I believe it's narrow minded and in some ways vindictive. There will be those like me who will significantly increase their donation! Add to that I believe there's concrete evidence that a highly successful athletics program ultimately benefits the entire university and generates both income and publicity which more than compensates from lost donations from individuals who consider/treat athletics as a poor stepchild at universities.

You know, I could buy into all of this if there was open land or current infrastructure that would support spending hundreds of millions of dollars for a facility that is used 6 maybe 7 times a year. And also you do realize that Pittsburgh politicians would control every move Pitt makes? The same Pittsburgh politicians who have been, shall we say, less than supportive than you would expect for their leading employer? Sure - they're just going to step aside and let Pitt do what it wants in Oakland. As if that has ever happened, even for much, much smaller development.

 

[Panther Parrothead]

Our AD missed the boat when this topic wasn't addressed in the town hall meeting. That forum would've been the perfect time to "deep six" this topic once and for all time.

 

[Tiger Paul Lives]

$300,000,000/110,000 = $2750 per viewer....will they sell beer?

I would probably double the estimate based on having to work on the infrastructure now and our support base is weak as it is now. Where would the money come from.

 

[Delpanther]

You know, I could buy into all of this if there was open land or current infrastructure that would support spending hundreds of millions of dollars for a facility that is used 6 maybe 7 times a year. And also you do realize that Pittsburgh politicians would control every move Pitt makes? The same Pittsburgh politicians who have been, shall we say, less than supportive than you would expect for their leading employer? Sure - they're just going to step aside and let Pitt do what it wants in Oakland. As if that has ever happened, even for much, much smaller development.

Pittsburgh isn't unique- in nearly every area of the country where you would undertake a project of this magnitude, there would be hurdles, both political and regulatory. I recognize, however, that Pitt's urban environment makes such a project even more difficult. But it can be done and I believe will be done and launched when the timing is right. I expect Pitt to explore its options quietly and get really serious if and when this coaching regime develops the appropriate momentum that will make a fundraising campaign related to a stadium capital project viable. I also now believe that Pitt understands that playing at Heinz is a liability-it's too big, it's inconvenient for the students and the conflicts with Pirate game dates locks Pitt into unattractive game times which badly affect attendance.

I know it's an expensive idea and I know how easy it is to identify the obstacles likely to prevent it from happening. I believe, however, that it's not only doable but that Pitt sees the advantages associated with doing it- timing is the key.

 

[Delpanther]

Our AD missed the boat when this topic wasn't addressed in the town hall meeting. That forum would've been the perfect time to "deep six" this topic once and for all time.

I actually don't think this project will be buried. I believe Pitt will quietly explore it's options. Playing at Heinz hurts the program from a number of perspectives-no matter what Pitt shares for public consumption on the subject, they know this. If this coaching staff brings Pitt all the way back, Pitt just may surprise you!

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

There's a bunch of unimaginative, whiny fcking babies on this board! Yes I said it...

Are you sure the guy who made that web site posts here?

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

#110k

Strong!

 

[Z #2]

 

[Panther Parrothead]

I actually don't think this project will be buried. I believe Pitt will quietly explore it's options. Playing at Heinz hurts the program from a number of perspectives-no matter what Pitt shares for public consumption on the subject, they know this. If this coaching staff brings Pitt all the way back, Pitt just may surprise you!

Make no mistake about it - I, too, would love a new on-campus stadium. But I don't see if happening, for all of the valid reasons that others have said.

But I still would've liked to have heard the topic addressed directly by the new AD. If he would've: (1) emphatically shot it down, then we would've had our answer. If he would've: (2) emphatically shouted, "Yes! It's in the planning stages, but be patient!" then we would've had our answer. And if he would've nervously: (3) looked at his shoes, tugged at his collar, and did some bureaucratic double-talking, then we'd know that something might just be happening.

The fact that it wasn't even mentioned gives us nadda - except more of this kind of (endless and futile) speculation.

 

[pitt-girl]

Pittsburgh isn't unique- in nearly every area of the country where you would undertake a project of this magnitude, there would be hurdles, both political and regulatory. I recognize, however, that Pitt's urban environment makes such a project even more difficult. But it can be done and I believe will be done and launched when the timing is right. I expect Pitt to explore its options quietly and get really serious if and when this coaching regime develops the appropriate momentum that will make a fundraising campaign related to a stadium capital project viable. I also now believe that Pitt understands that playing at Heinz is a liability-it's too big, it's inconvenient for the students and the conflicts with Pirate game dates locks Pitt into unattractive game times which badly affect attendance.

I know it's an expensive idea and I know how easy it is to identify the obstacles likely to prevent it from happening. I believe, however, that it's not only doable but that Pitt sees the advantages associated with doing it- timing is the key.

Del, if you're confident that Pitt will be able to privately fund this through donations (because there will not be one cent from the state), then I underestimate Pitt's financial base and overestimate the need for other, academic-based and housing facilities.

 

[tps48]

www.newpittstadium.com has over 110,000 + views since inception nearly one year ago! I tried to pin down the exact number from the site administrator by she would not divulge. I'd say that it draws interest. TIDBIT: GSPIA study has been found and is in the hands of the Chancellor and staff. Also, Pitt has commissioned study focusing on three potential sites for New Pitt Stadium ~ all in Oakland.

www.newpittstadium.com

Curiosity looks, not support. It will be taken seriously, ummm ... NEVER.
Talk is cheap. Show Pitt the money or ride into the sunset.

 

[Mustard_Man]

I will start this by saying this is obviously unlikely to ever happen but it doesn't hurt to speculate on a snowy Sunday in January.

I think the yet-to-be-developed Hazelwood LTV site could offer something although it isn't on campus per se. However it could help connect Oakland with the south side and would be easy to walk to from the south side.

Saw this article related to creating a transportation link from Oakland to that area:

http://www.post-gazette.com/news/tr...tween-Oakland-Almono-site/stories/20150829005

 

[tps48]

www.newpittstadium.com has over 110,000 + views since inception nearly one year ago! I tried to pin down the exact number from the site administrator by she would not divulge. I'd say that it draws interest. TIDBIT: GSPIA study has been found and is in the hands of the Chancellor and staff. Also, Pitt has commissioned study focusing on three potential sites for New Pitt Stadium ~ all in Oakland.

www.newpittstadium.com

Wow ... over 7000 posts and all of 11 likes. Doesn't sound like you are taken seriously. HOORAY!

 

[PantherProud68]

We need to give this new stadium talk a rest. It get's old fast and we are actually in a great position with the relationship with the Rooney's. I have been to many college facilities and games.
the upgrades at the practice facility have brought us up a couple notches. The recruit has interest in where they are going to Sleep, Eat, Practice and Go to Class and play. Of course social life as well.

#1 thing they care about is relationships. Coach PN and his staff get that. We will be successful stop the stadium talks as well as the Franklin Garbage.

Pitt is It! We should only be concerned with our program.

H2P!

 

[Delpanther]

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Del, if you're confident that Pitt will be able to privately fund this through donations (because there will not be one cent from the state), then I underestimate Pitt's financial base and overestimate the need for other, academic-based and housing facilities.

Well today they probably wouldn't get a cent from the state but this isn't going to happen overnight..., time will tell. Pitt has done a terrible job targeting and courting big money donors for athletics. Pitt has a huge academic endowment which can be used on the academic side for the purposes you cite. My daughter is a soph at Pitt and I'm not of the impression that the housing situation is dire-seniors don't have rights to university housing.

 

[Delpanther]

We need to give this new stadium talk a rest. It get's old fast and we are actually in a great position with the relationship with the Rooney's. I have been to many college facilities and games.
the upgrades at the practice facility have brought us up a couple notches. The recruit has interest in where they are going to Sleep, Eat, Practice and Go to Class and play. Of course social life as well.

#1 thing they care about is relationships. Coach PN and his staff get that. We will be successful stop the stadium talks as well as the Franklin Garbage.

Pitt is It! We should only be concerned with our program.

H2P!

Great relationship with the Rooneys? They're great as long as they get their way-just ask the city. Not having an on campus stadium is a detriment. Having to play all those noon games which kill attendance because of conflicts with the Pirates games is reason enough to get the hell out of Heinz. There's no greater advantage than having control of your own destiny and that includes where you play.

 

[Panther Parrothead]

I will start this by saying this is obviously unlikely to ever happen but it doesn't hurt to speculate on a snowy Sunday in January.

I think the yet-to-be-developed Hazelwood LTV site could offer something although it isn't on campus per se. However it could help connect Oakland with the south side and would be easy to walk to from the south side.

Saw this article related to creating a transportation link from Oakland to that area:

http://www.post-gazette.com/news/tr...tween-Oakland-Almono-site/stories/20150829005

IMHO, if the players and students can't walk to it, then it's not worth the expense. What's the point of spending millions on a facility that's not on campus? We've already got one of those.