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The Steve Pederson Era...

You read some of these defenses of Pederson in this thread and you have to wonder---why hasn't any other university hired him to be its athletic director?

If he did so well (I think one described him as our best athletic director??), why can't he get another AD job?
I defended Nordenberg and it is easy to do, but you are correct on Pederson too, and Nebraska dumped him too proves it.

Nordenberg saved Pitt Athletics and brought Revenue Prosperity via the ACC, if Nordy felt he needed SP to help him, well mission accomplishment. Chancellor Gallagher thought otherwise, so be it!
 
Maybe he doesn't want to.
Maybe and then again, Maybe it shows confusion on Pederson's Part just like he established at Pitt & Nebraska trying to hire a Coach, when it took so much time, and fired some without a plan to have a good one in place and hired Consultants that missed Haywood Domestic Abuse Diligence?

Maybe is a good word for SP's confusion and explain why no one wants SP back at Nebraska or Pitt and that is not a Maybe but a Fact, except MAYBE one lone Fan South of Oakland?
 
all that pales in comparison to the damage done to the FB program the last 10 years with the coaching carousel and the damage resulting from the destruction of Pitt stadium and having to play in a forum that's much too large.. Pedersen had nothing to do with Pitt's entry into the ACC other than fill in the application. Yea, he hired McConnell after renewing her predecessor's contract which Pitt is still paying off-what a joke your even suggesting that's a positive. Pedersen and Nerdy together were a complete disaster and Pitt FB would have never gotten off the mat with those two BUMS in place.


Don't forget his horrible hire of Waites...total disaster, on an off the court. Hail to Pitt!
 
Don't forget his horrible hire of Waites...total disaster, on an off the court. Hail to Pitt!
This is what a few on he Lair just don't get about the Poison left over by Pederson and it was due to his persona of an ego with horrible mismanagement and judgments to only help select and use Pitt. They cry about support at Pitt but few backed it due to Pederson's Poison and still do!

1. There was Top Sports Lawyer with connections to Pitt, he made sure his Sports Clients would leave money to Pitt when they signed contracts. Pederson ice him out of Pitt in favor of the Sports Agency in Cleveland that had full access to Pitt at all time through Pederson.

2. What happen with Miller Family and Calipari really turned them and many contacts they had at Pitt & Western Pa off on dumping Pitt. The Miller Family and John Calipari are some of the finest Basketball Minds in the World and many of their local relatives and contacts no longer have anything to do with Pitt.

3. There was Millionaire Alumni Couple that loved Pitt Football, but after being treated badly by Pederson they chose to change their Wills and sent their children elsewhere and not a dime given to Pitt. This happen often and many Alumni just dumped Pitt because Pederson could care less.

4. Even the ones that stuck with Pitt said to me, Pederson only comes around when he wants something, otherwise he could less about Pitt or Alumni. Pederson tried to fire a few in the AD Department to hire relatives of some Consultants, but some Trustees let him know in no uncertain terms, they stay or you will go away.

To this day the New Athletic regime is fighting Pederson's Poison Malaise still left over and many very Wealthy Alumni moved away and no longer give to Pitt. When I talk to them they just laugh and say Pederson Practices still leaves bad tastes in their mouths and won't give a dime. However, a few have called and talked to me about Narduzzi looking like good coach for Pitt. So, I know they still watch! The Former Player Alumni are coming back to in ways they avoided before, but Pitt has a long way to go to recover from Pitt's Pederson Poison.


 
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all that pales in comparison to the damage done to the FB program the last 10 years with the coaching carousel and the damage resulting from the destruction of Pitt stadium and having to play in a forum that's much too large.. Pedersen had nothing to do with Pitt's entry into the ACC other than fill in the application. Yea, he hired McConnell after renewing her predecessor's contract which Pitt is still paying off-what a joke your even suggesting that's a positive. Pedersen and Nerdy together were a complete disaster and Pitt FB would have never gotten off the mat with those two BUMS in place.
The decade before Steve was hired killed Pitt football.
Financial, fanbase , and performance were all on life support.

You make it sound like generating revenue steams, going to bowl games, and actually having facilities which aren't shameful was a bad thing.

Nothing was destroyed football wise at Pitt.

Stop being so dramatic.
 
The decade before Steve was hired killed Pitt football.
This is a reasonable statement due to Chancellor Posvar waiting to retire and appointed a horrible Athletic Director.

Chancellor John Dennis O'Connor did not care at all and had no vision.

Chancellor Nordenberg made it a priority and brought back winning before he retired and left Pitt Football far better than he found it.

Chancellor Gallagher has all the means and resources to bring it back to Top 25 Winning!

Returning Athletic Programs back to winning begins with the Chancellor's Vision, Coaches Selection, and Athletic Director's Support to accomplish that Chancellor's Vision.
 
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This is a reasonable statement due to Chancellor Posvar waiting to retire and appointed a horrible Athletic Director.

Chancellor John Dennis O'Connor did not care at all and had no vision.

Chancellor Nordenberg made it a priority and brought back winning before he retired and left Pitt Football far better than he found it.

Chancellor Gallagher has all the means and resources to bring it back to Top 25 Winning!

Returning Athletic Programs back to winning begins with the Chancellor's Vision, Coaches Selection, and Athletic Director's Support to accomplish that Chancellor's Vision.

And he has those resources because Nordy and Steve left Pitt athletics including football and stable ground and much healthier than what they inherited.
 
And he has those resources because Nordy and Steve left Pitt athletics including football and stable ground and much healthier than what they inherited.
Correction, PITT has the ACC resources due to Nordenberg Leadership help saving the Big East by expanding Big East Basketball & Football BCS Bowl Bid 3 years after Pederson was long gone and Howland too.

The Big East Basketball challenge put in more NCAA Tourney Teams & more Top 25 Teams without Pederson when ULou, USF, UCincy, DePaul & Marquette added, and no Pederson was around. The ACC was forced to take Pitt, Cuse, ULou & ND to restore their Basketball & enhance their Football. Pederson was not at Pitt at that time Nordy helped save the Big East.

Nordenberg chose Jamie Dixon and Wannstedt during the period without Pederson. Wannstedt won 10 games at Pitt since 1980s Nordenberg chose too, but Pederson fired him?

Big East BCS Bid was saved too with Big East Higher Ratings than ACC and Swofford could see he needed a Second Expansion to include Pitt, Cuse, ULou, & ND, and the Big East BCS Bowl Bid Ratings happen to be higher than the ACC from 2004 to 2007 and Big East's BCS Bowl Bid was renewed, before Pederson's return?

Nordenberg did far more to save the Big East without Pederson and help lead the Expansion of Big East Football & Basketball without Pederson too.

All during Pederson destroying Nebraska Top 25 Rankings and started the Husker's Football decline from 2002 to 2007!

Nordenberg never left Pitt, unlike Pederson! Nordenberg gave Pederson a second chance because no one wanted him? Pederson had no choices but a return to Pitt and went on to do a bad job.

Cuse, ULou, managed to get in without Pederson!

Pitt Record: 1996-2002 Pederson First Term:
63 Pittsburgh 0.48780

Pitt Record Without Pederson Harris-Wannstedt ACC-BEC Transition:
59 Pittsburgh 0.53333

PITT Record After Wannstedt Fired By Pederson:
76 Pittsburgh 0.48077

Pederson Record at Nebraska:
Nebraska Record Before Pederson 5 Years:

12 Nebraska 0.75385

Nebraska Record During Pederson 5 Years:
35 Nebraska 0.59677

Nebraska Record After Pederson 5 Years:

18 Nebraska 0.70588

Do you want Pederson back?


 
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The decade before Steve was hired killed Pitt football.
Financial, fanbase , and performance were all on life support.

You make it sound like generating revenue steams, going to bowl games, and actually having facilities which aren't shameful was a bad thing.

Nothing was destroyed football wise at Pitt.

Stop being so dramatic.
What I've repeatedly said is the Pitt admin. From Posvar on screwed Pitt FB and that Pedersen and Nerdywere as guilty as their predecessors of mismanagement and like warm commitment. If it wasn't destroyed it was on life support.
 
That's just it, you tell the truth and acknowledge Pedey and Nordy were screw ups, then the fanboys scream Bozik, well they BOTH SUCKED, BOTH ADMINISTRATION'S, how is that ?
 
Haters gonna hate... and I see so many of the old bunch back to revel in the Echo Chamber of Contempt. Even from folks whose insights I routinely enjoy

Having known the man pretty well, he was not a legitimate object of hatred. Tried his best, had some big ups and some clear downs.

But everyone seems to forget this: Perhaps no figure was better seated to opine intelligently on the merits of Steve P's efforts than Beano Cook. Beano was loudly on record as stating that Steve saved the football program at Pitt. Nothing less. And this was not an exercise in hype.

I'm not compelled to enumerate his logic here, but Beano at the time explained just how precarious was the state of Pitt football upon SP's arrival - and we're competitive in a Power 5 Conference today, having secured the program's future.

Mistakes and missteps granted, not too bad a legacy.

But let the hatred resume...
 
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Haters gonna hate... and I see so many of the old bunch back to revel in the Echo Chamber of Contempt. Even from folks whose insights I routinely enjoy

Having known the man pretty well, he was not a legitimate object of hatred. Tried his best, had some big ups and some clear downs.

But everyone seems to forget this: Perhaps no figure was better seated to opine intelligently on the merits of Steve P's efforts than Beano Cook. Beano was loudly on record as stating that Steve saved the football program at Pitt. Nothing less. And this was not an exercise in hype.

I'm not compelled to enumerate his logic here, but Beano at the time explained just how precarious was the state of Pitt football upon SP's arrival - and we're competitive in a Power 5 Conference today, having secured the program's future.

Mistakes and missteps granted, not too bad a legacy.

But let the hatred resume...

There were 3 times where the immediately past administration fought off the ruination of Pitt football as a major collegiate program.

1) In 1995-97 there were internal university forces at work that wanted to deemphasize football down to 1AA or Temple-like type program because of how much of a financial and infrastructure mess the athletic department ...and actually the entire university... was at the time. Football was gushing money, and needed major financial investments to bring it up to competitive levels with its peers and the money simply wasn't anywhere to be found... not from the university which was having trouble filling beds, not from what few donors that were left and especially coming off the heels of completely failed fundraising campaigns for Pitt Stadium, and certainly not from ticket revenue which was non-existent. Heck, a 1997 $1 million scoreboard upgrade at Pitt Stadium caused major internal raucous. This was one of the reasons that decisions were made to move forward with facility upgrades partnering with outside organizations like UPMC and Plan B instead of the university struggling along on its own accord, which could have been a disaster with the conference upheaval that was unknowingly coming down the pike.

2) 2003-2004 when the ACC raided the Big East and the conference was on the verge of collapse and removal (by design of the ACC) from the BCS structure. Nordenberg assumed defacto leadership of the Big East football schools as Tranghese was essentially relegated to a bystander due to his position straddling both the basketball and football factions. Nordenberg is directly responsible for the conference retaining its status as a BCS conference and was credited with such by all of the football school leadership at the time.

3) 2010-2011, the latest and perhaps final conference realignment phase, when the past administration actively worked to secure Pitt's place in a Power 5 conference. Swofford has publicly credited the experience and leadership of both Nordenberg and Pederson with getting Pitt into the ACC. Add to that, without the prior decade of facility upgrades that were undertaken in spite of a lack of financial resources, Pitt does not get into the ACC... period. If Pitt doesn't get into a Power 5 conference in 2011, it is done as a major athletic program. Moving into the ACC is the single most important thing that has happened to Pitt athletics in the past 40 years.

For all the errors and mishires made along the way that might have kept Pitt athletics from winning at its maximum potential, these people were in the right place at the right time to keep Pitt as a major player in athletics, which by far was fundamentally the most critical challenge over the prior 15 years.
 
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Paco - no one knows it better or states it more eloquently. Some of us maintain the perspective to see the facts. Nordenberg may have done more good for Pitt in his time at the helm than any university leader in this country. And football fans still relish ripping him because of their disappointment in the program.
 
Paco - no one knows it better or states it more eloquently. Some of us maintain the perspective to see the facts. Nordenberg may have done more good for Pitt in his time at the helm than any university leader in this country. And football fans still relish ripping him because of their disappointment in the program.
Just that simple
 
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Paco - no one knows it better or states it more eloquently. Some of us maintain the perspective to see the facts. Nordenberg may have done more good for Pitt in his time at the helm than any university leader in this country. And football fans still relish ripping him because of their disappointment in the program.
I think anyone with an IQ above 100 realizes what a good job Nordenberg did for this University both academically and athletically.
 
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My son was just accepted to the University of Pittsburgh's Honors College and is in the running for a four year full ride Chancellors Scholarship at Pitt. His Dad (Me) is a Pitt Grad '76 ( first year awardee of the same scholarship).
Son is in running for same thing at Columbia, Vanderbilt, USC and UCLA.
He's been recruited by every DI Hockey powers (inclufing Harvard) and said no to all.
It's all about academics. That's what gets you in the door for the next job interview.
Your degree from Pitt will not be advanced by whatever happens to Pitt Football.
Nordenburg was the best Chancellor at Pitt in my lifetime. We are not Alabama. I prey Pitt never is.
 
2. What happen with Miller Family and Calipari really turned them and many contacts they had at Pitt & Western Pa off on dumping Pitt. The Miller Family and John Calipari are some of the finest Basketball Minds in the World and many of their local relatives and contacts no longer have anything to do with Pitt.


What happened with the Miller family was that when Sean screwed over Ralph Willard people at Pitt got mad at him. The notion that Pitt did something to the Miller family to cause "the feud" that ensued is revisionist bullshit at it's finest.

Sean screwed Pitt, and then his dad spent the better part of a couple of decades doing everything he could to screw Pitt as well. The notion that any of that is Pitt's fault is preposterous.
 
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My son was just accepted to the University of Pittsburgh's Honors College and is in the running for a four year full ride Chancellors Scholarship at Pitt. His Dad (Me) is a Pitt Grad '76 ( first year awardee of the same scholarship).
Son is in running for same thing at Columbia, Vanderbilt, USC and UCLA.
He's been recruited by every DI Hockey powers (inclufing Harvard) and said no to all.
It's all about academics. That's what gets you in the door for the next job interview.
Your degree from Pitt will not be advanced by whatever happens to Pitt Football.
Nordenburg was the best Chancellor at Pitt in my lifetime. We are not Alabama. I prey Pitt never is.

Congrats. The Chancellor's Scholarship is unbelievably selective so even being in the running is impressive. That's a nice list of choices, so your son will be great shape no matter where he ends up.
 
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What happened with the Miller family was that when Sean screwed over Ralph Willard people at Pitt got mad at him. The notion that Pitt did something to the Miller family to cause "the feud" that ensued is revisionist bullshit at it's finest.

Sean screwed Pitt, and then his dad spent the better part of a couple of decades doing everything he could to screw Pitt as well. The notion that any of that is Pitt's fault is preposterous.
And some here actually thought Sean Miller was actually going to come here.
His dad responded by kicking Pitt in the nuts.
 
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Academics and athletics is not an either or proposition. You can be good at both. Stanford does. Michigan does.

It's a shame that some of you feel the need to virtue signal on an anonymous message board as though they are mutually exclusive. Whatever makes you feel good about yourself I guess.
 


I agree completely. That's my whole point. Pitt's academics aren't anywhere close to those schools. So why feel the need to act as though Pitt is too good to try and have a football team that wins? The academic reputation really isn't at much risk.
 
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