Are we to believe Narduzzi and Watson know better than all the other P5 coaches? Beville isn't highly regarded or coveted by big time programs, but what I was saying was he was clearly a guy HCPN and Watson targeted last year and they stuck with him as their top (or at least one of) choice. That counts for something and we will see how it pans out. Nothing jumps out for me, but he looks like he has a good frame and solid arm to work with.
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Fair enough, and maybe I lumped you in with all of the teeth gnashing posts I've been bombarded with the last few months. Maybe fairly, and maybe not.
I don't follow recruiting close enough to know who the guys are that our coaches should be looking at to fit the schemes at Pitt. And I hope I will always be able to say that I don't follow high school kids that closely.
I don't really care what other coaches are looking at for a quarterback. I do know that very few teams run the offense that Pitt does (count how many full backs there are on rosters across the country), so maybe the number of other coaches coveting a kid isn't the best measurement to go by.
If he were a kid filling a roster spot to finish out a class, I could see questioning him. But he's not. He's the guy that our coaches have hung their hat on, so I have to side with them. It's their bigger than big salary jobs that are on the line.
Maybe I need to wait until the season starts before I come back to this site. The collective woe is me attitude around here is starting to bring me down.
The fact that you're complaining about some Pitt fans trying to see the bright side of the recruits they're getting is crazy to me. You're the one talking about reality but it sounds to me you won't be happy unless Pitt wins 9-10 games a year? Let me give you a hint, 5* recruits aren't going to magically fall into our laps, if we can't try and look at the up side of some of these 3*, there will never be anything to be happy about.
By the way, Nobody is excited to watch the Pirates play right now.
pittdan77
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No problem looking for the bright side where it's justified but just assuming recruiting should always be average for Pitt is lazy. Good recruits don't fall into your lap. A coach goes and outworks every other coach to get them. And why can't 9-10 wins be a reality?
I suspect you are trying to converse with the the low IQ trolls... Ignore them....
When we had no recruits, they complained. When we finally got recruits, they complained that Pitt wasn't beating out Ohio St, PSU, Michigan, Miami, FSU Clemson for players. Instead we were beating out Rutgers, VA, VT, Purdue, Illinois, BC, Northwestern, Syracuse, and MSU, teams we have more in common with over the last 35 years...
The following has been their M.O.
- No matter what Pitt does, it won't be enough...
- Pitt should be beating out the big boys for recruits...No matter that we haven't accomplished anything for 35 years...
- They believe that recruiting services know more about which kids fit Pitt's system than the coaches...
- A 4 star player will automatically become a star, while a 3 star will struggle for playing time.
- Even when Pitt reaches for a player that has less than five P5 offers, instead of trusting the staff, they will automatically label him a failure . Furthermore, If James Conner was part of this recruiting class, those clowns would already label him a failure...
- All this whining is under the guise of trying to "elevate the expectations of the program" LOL! As if their opinion will change anything....
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But that's not what he is doing. He's arguing against those that use the glass half full approach to attack the rest of us.
Go look at any of those recruit threads from this weekend. You won't see any of us "trolls" attacking the kids, or pissing on the party. If people want to be happy about Pitt's recruiting, Pitt's place in P5 programs, etc,, be happy. None of us really have any problem with that, and we don't go around doing everything we can to ruin that.
But you know what you will find in those recruit celebration threads? The "brighter side" posters calling us out. Trying to bait us to come into the thread.
Look at poor pittmeister, who is probably the ring leader of the brighter side posters. Look at his posts and threads he has started over the last week. We live in his head. But you don't really see it go the other way.
These "bright side" posters use their bright side delusions, as justification to attack the rest of us that don't get in line. So then of course there are going to be discussions about how these positions are delusional. Or the hypocrisy of them.
pittdan77
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Grow a set and engage people directly.
- Not even remotely true.
- You really believe Pitt shouldn't even try to go after better recruits.
- Recruiting services have a really good track record at evaluating athletes.
- Nobody ever said this.
- A reach should be a choice you make periodically, not how you're filling your class. Guy's like JC are the exception to the rule.
- The guy that is whining is the guy that talks out of both ends at the same time, gets crushed with facts, then runs and hides behind insults.
pittdan77
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You know a guy is losing it when he breaks out all of his burner accounts.
Maybe a couple 4 stars. Not several. That has never happened at Pitt. These are good recruits. But not big names in terms of getting higher level players now to recruit.
I am really hoping we can land some good offensive line recruits.
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anon_vmuicqnzlyp3u
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Well when you continue to recruit like this you get 5-7. I hope that he realizes that this nor this administration is not playing around. We will no longer be the laughing stock of the ACC Coastal
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anon_vmuicqnzlyp3u
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That is not even remotely close to how recruiting works. There are no 4 and 5 star recruits sitting at home suddenly re-evaluating Pitt because a bunch of 3 stars committed. Nobody thought that there wouldn't be a team. What Narduzzi's done this recruiting cycle seems to be par for the course of his tenure, the only difference is that he got a bunch of commits all at once rather than spread out over a couple of weeks.
If you want to see a significant uptick in recruiting, Pitt needs to win. The only problem is that, generally speaking, causation works the other way around. Great recruiting leads to winning, it's virtually impossible to win first and then parlay that into improved recruiting when you play in the ACC. Optimism is fine, but a lot of what you post reads more like propaganda, as if repeating that Narduzzi is a beast recruiter over and over will make it true.
If the preseason projections are correct, you might want to take the whole year off.
