"recruitsreadtheseboards, post: 1588633, member: 2328"]It's a different sport now. Cable access, Pitt was in a wired market from almost the get for ESPN, which made Pitt games attractive (plus not too removed from a National Title).
Good point, but Pitt has always had good TV ratings even in BEC, and Swofford had no choice to bring in Pennsylvania and a 12th Metro TV Area, other than Temple? Also, why WVU with bigger Attendance, Boosters, and Winning was left out of ACC Plans to Expand?
Look, I posted something on the free board that is similar to what you are saying. I am worried about Narduzzi being here for any duration, just based on the fact that he will get frustrated because Pitt football is a 4th place finisher in a 3 horse pro town, the local kids have no loyalties to Pitt and that great atmosphere against PSU is a once every 3-5 year occurrence.
Very fair comment and MSU did not have that Pro-Teams Competition, but I think Narduzzi just does not care much about it, just a guess. He is happy to take on that task and will expect to win in front of 20,000 or 60,000 does not matter to him. Coach Pat just looks at 10, 11, 12 Wins per year as his important number.
Narduzzi is 50 and just a Hunch, he wants to build Pitt into a Program where he can stay a long time. He is another Patterson or Paterno in my view, and Tressel says it too! Not a Young 30's Majors or Sherrill and certainly not a GraHAM at 46 or Beat Up Haywood too!
More on Walt Harris 49 age, Paul Chryst who is also 50 now and both had to wait to become Head Coaches just like Coach Pat. The difference is Coach Pat turned down other jobs until Pitt offered versus Harris & Chryst could not get them?
The recruiting did not matter much at MSU with many 2 Stars becoming NFL Stars, why would it matter at Pitt under coach Pat? He will coach them up to win, recruit better with wins, and he will be 8-12 game winner in the coming years would be just fine at Pitt! This is how others built their Programs and it took Dantonio 3+Years!
If Pitt adds WVU every year that will bring more attendance and Smart Recruits will come not because of that, but because they want to be coached by Narduzzi & Staff!
Nothing against Narduzzi, he is a good guy and a good coach, but he is also a competitor.
Yep, and he wanted the Pitt Job to compete at Pitt!
As for having to have the recruits to win, Pitt is not afforded this luxury. Pitt is going to have to figure out how to get to an ACC Champ game and a 10-11 win season with the kids they have now.
Agree, but they will increase Recruits Caliber too. Franklin is already in taking less mode unlike his great speeches when he came to Happy Valley. Rutgers & Maryland will cause him more fits just like OSU, Michigan, and MSU. They will be 8 or 9 wins at best and maybe lower and then have to make a change?
ND won't keep Kelly forever, change will happen there too. OSU, Michigan, ad MSU look to be in for a far longer Haul and that is OK we don't get much with them anyway, today or tomorrow.
Pitt needs to Recruit better than UVA, Duke, GT, Cuse and VT, and take on UNC & Miami! This is very doable in the ACC Coastal!
I think Coach Pat can hang with Richt, Fedora, Fuente, Johnson, Cutcliffe, Mendenhall, and Babers. Some of them will leave sooner than Narduzzi would consider leaving Pitt! Same with Kelly, Ash, Franklin, Durkin, Chryst, and Holgrosen, Narduzzi can out last them both in my view, but just my opinion.
It is not impossible, but we at Pitt have been waiting for this magical recruiter with 4-5 stars at every position and it ain't happening.
Yep, Lte's see what has happen after just 2-3 years......New Conference 2013........New Chancellor 2014.............New Head Coach 2015......New Athletic Director 2015...........New Attitude 2015.........and Just 16 Games Played.........and We are still waiting for what???????? Instant Top 10 recruiting Classes with 4 of the Biggest Programs all around Pitt, and 1 More in ACC Coastal that doesn't have to leave Miami to recruit???????
Sorry, but even Dantonio at UCincy & MSU did not do that by their 16 games, they did it after 45th games and that was on a gradual upward spiral of Great Coaching as well???
So Pitt is going to have to be like TCU or Louisville and others and over achieve. Sorry....that's it. No excuses.
Now you are talking Turkey are you not, I'll take a TCU 22nd Winning Percentage and 12th from ULou too.
TCU Patterson was up and down playing in Conference USA his firs few years staring in 2000, and now built a fine Program that compete with anyone?
Petrino took over a pretty good Charlie Strong Program in Recruits and Players in 2014 and his Athletic Director Jurich gives him all the help he needs, unlike what Coach Pat did not even have an AD until last year?
Sometime....."TIME TO REBUILD MATTERS" especially with so many changes in Conferences, Administrations, and Leftovers from a System with Pitt's prior Pederson Poison in it, like Off Campus Stadiums & Practice Facilities and Renewed Booster Contributions Interest that gave up giving due to Pederson's selfish ego mismanagement????
Gee, even with the Pitt Script creation in 1972, and 90 Recruits each year it took Pitt to go from 6-5-1, 7-4, 8-4 to 10+ Wins and that was with On Campus Stadium and plenty of Money from Alumni Golden Panthers with Great Coaches over 35 Games with a NCAA Rushing Record Breaker & Heisman????
So, Jeter did not come to Pitt, so be it!
Neither did other Pennsylvania Recruits as in Tom Clements & Joe Montana in 1970s, Pitt Still did it without them!
In 1990s, Paul Failla & Ron Powlus both chose ND with many PA Recruits over Pitt, Curtis Martin chose Pitt and is in the Hall of Fame today!
What Pitt always needed was an P-5 ACC Big TV Income, Good Chancellor Commitment to Athletic with a vision towards the future, and Stable Head Coach & Staff...............we just got those in 2013, 2014, and 2015!
Let's judge Coach Pat in his 36th+ Games in his 4th Year, or at least after this year?
So Little Done & So Much To Do!
Good Post BTW too!
