Thoughts on Lyke/Stockey Interview
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The Top 10 all play on campus and the only team in the Top 20 that plays off campus is Miami?
To the poster who mentioned UConn and Wake Forest I hope we're not using them as a model to replicate??
Its clear that the serious programs play on campus!
On benefit to playing in a pro stadium is the U has no investment, recurring fixed costs, demolition expense, etc. if they decide to discontinue a U football program.
Throw the unis away and you're out of the football business!
As far as PITT goes I think that's part of the off campus Heinz field strategy since it provides PITT with options if things dont go well in the future! From that point of view its a great plan!Smart!
To the poster who mentioned UConn and Wake Forest I hope we're not using them as a model to replicate??
Its clear that the serious programs play on campus!
On benefit to playing in a pro stadium is the U has no investment, recurring fixed costs, demolition expense, etc. if they decide to discontinue a U football program.
Throw the unis away and you're out of the football business!
As far as PITT goes I think that's part of the off campus Heinz field strategy since it provides PITT with options if things dont go well in the future! From that point of view its a great plan!Smart!
Pitt Stadium was a dump. Heinz is a far better facility.
GBG Panther: Actually, I'm sorry you are correct. Colorado State didn't play most of its home games at the Broncos stadium (only played some rival games there) but according to some additional research, they played off campus so technically I'm correct. Another school who failed at off campus. The Rams completed a 49-season tenure at Sonny Lubick Field at Hughes Stadium, located four miles west of the school's campus in the foothills of the Rocky Mountains, in 2016. The university is building a new on-campus venue tentatively known as Colorado State Stadium, and plans to complete it in time for the start of the 2017 season.
Northwestern plays on campus: Ryan Field is a stadium in Evanston, Illinois, United States on the campus of Northwestern University. It is primarily used for American football, and is the home field of the Northwestern Wildcats football team.
I've been to South Carolina for business and its at the far end of campus. Its about a mile WALK but so is the case at many schools who have larger campuses such as U of Michigan as stated which is a 15 walk from the heart of campus So, if Pitt put a stadium in South Oakland or North Oakland, it would also be technically considered off campus but we all know that's part of campus and easily walk-able. Heinz isn't walk-able for students.
Not to pick on you since you said 99% percent of what I said was wrong (seems like your math is way off), however are telling me that Pitt has landed a ton of 4/5 star recruits this class and last year because of the Steelers/Heinz? If I'm wrong, tell me how many? If you're OK with landing 2 or 3 a year and a 41st recruiting class, then I suppose you are OK with mediocre. I'm not OK with it and am looking to make changes so we can compete for championships. I think many Steeler fans are in denial and thought this was going to be a home run by SP but need to face the facts that their stadium/atmosphere is GREAT FOR THEM NOT PITT
Are you telling me the students showed up in a big way after we beat the National Champs in Death Valley which is as good as a win we'll ever see? How was the atmosphere at Heinz after beating PSU at the other home games before the Duke game?
Lastly, in the world of all of these fancy and upscale impressive brand NEW state of the art pro stadiums being built, what major university has decided to build a building like Dallas Cowboys off campus where land is more accessible and likely cheaper to impress recruits with every amenity possible? I'll give you a hint. NOT one school. Why? Take a guess.
Again I'm not looking to pick on you, but perhaps you should research your facts before you say 99% of what I said is wrong unless you can prove otherwise.
H2P!
Northwestern plays on campus: Ryan Field is a stadium in Evanston, Illinois, United States on the campus of Northwestern University. It is primarily used for American football, and is the home field of the Northwestern Wildcats football team.
I've been to South Carolina for business and its at the far end of campus. Its about a mile WALK but so is the case at many schools who have larger campuses such as U of Michigan as stated which is a 15 walk from the heart of campus So, if Pitt put a stadium in South Oakland or North Oakland, it would also be technically considered off campus but we all know that's part of campus and easily walk-able. Heinz isn't walk-able for students.
Not to pick on you since you said 99% percent of what I said was wrong (seems like your math is way off), however are telling me that Pitt has landed a ton of 4/5 star recruits this class and last year because of the Steelers/Heinz? If I'm wrong, tell me how many? If you're OK with landing 2 or 3 a year and a 41st recruiting class, then I suppose you are OK with mediocre. I'm not OK with it and am looking to make changes so we can compete for championships. I think many Steeler fans are in denial and thought this was going to be a home run by SP but need to face the facts that their stadium/atmosphere is GREAT FOR THEM NOT PITT
Are you telling me the students showed up in a big way after we beat the National Champs in Death Valley which is as good as a win we'll ever see? How was the atmosphere at Heinz after beating PSU at the other home games before the Duke game?
Lastly, in the world of all of these fancy and upscale impressive brand NEW state of the art pro stadiums being built, what major university has decided to build a building like Dallas Cowboys off campus where land is more accessible and likely cheaper to impress recruits with every amenity possible? I'll give you a hint. NOT one school. Why? Take a guess.
Again I'm not looking to pick on you, but perhaps you should research your facts before you say 99% of what I said is wrong unless you can prove otherwise.
H2P!
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Hi to all in panther land and happy forth.where do you want to start. We have realized for the first time in many years like Dale said that we are really very far behind in facilities. Leave the stadium out of it small part of the problem.when I stated that you were 99% wrongI was looking at your statement that a stadium will bring 4 and 5 stars. Listen Pitt needs the backing of the university which it has not had in 30 to 40 years. We will never be a football factory like Alabama and Ohio State and due what ever it has to to win. That said we do not need to be at the bottom of the ACC in spending and our ranking of our facilities are near the bottom The Chancellor has said that the sports programs need to be the front porch. We need to poor a lot of money into the football program in a lot of other aspects before we even think about a stadium. Have you been to other schools to see what is going on it is unreal and if we don't jump in to this race a Stadium will not sustain the program. Pitt can get there but we shoot ourself in the foot way to many times. We need to get this right. The attendance issue is one to be debated but remember in the 70's and 80's people did not show up to games. Winning and winning big for a long period of time is needed. What comes first the chicken or the egg. Can we win with out facilities or do we need facilities to win.. Narduzzi is here for the long haul unless the university does not keep pushing forward on the football program. I think there is a plan in place that we need to take . It is a huge undertaking and all sports will benefit at the university. It is a shame but Cincinnati is way ahead of us and they have a lot of the same challenges. We are like next to last in the ACC as a sports program Ugh. Many alumni and friends of the football program do not give money to help support the program. That is problem number 2 behind the university commitment. Sorry for being long but there is so much that needs to be done before a stadium and I could go on all day but who wants to listen to me.
It's interesting the contradictions. So many posters rub themselves on the back and other places that Pitt regards itself so highly as not to spend and cheat and compromise for the sake of winning football. Yet many of the same whine about the number one thing Pitt has done to minimize it's investment into football... which is to have (brilliantly) piggyback onto a (perfectly fine and as accessible as possible) facility that actually had some personalization built in for it (granted not much... But it's a freaking football field).
For those unable to see the glaring conflict in their position, look at it this way. If Pitt threw in behind football the way I yearn for, they'd be more likely to win big, obtain money (of course) but even more critical, civic glory and political favor that comes from it. Only wth all those things would an on campus stadium ever bee possible (not that it's necessary). We'd have to become nearly as popular as the Steelers and Penguins to grease the mechanisms.
So you puritans who so frequently jerk each other off when the stiff suited dweebs in the paneled offices flex their flab and foolishly hold up the admission of a Ford because they didn't like that he didn't take French III (or whatever bullshit), or celebrate that Pitt wouldn't part with a couple extra hundred thou to keep its most offensive coordinator ever, or a ton of other enraging examples ... you're killing your other pet cause.
For those unable to see the glaring conflict in their position, look at it this way. If Pitt threw in behind football the way I yearn for, they'd be more likely to win big, obtain money (of course) but even more critical, civic glory and political favor that comes from it. Only wth all those things would an on campus stadium ever bee possible (not that it's necessary). We'd have to become nearly as popular as the Steelers and Penguins to grease the mechanisms.
So you puritans who so frequently jerk each other off when the stiff suited dweebs in the paneled offices flex their flab and foolishly hold up the admission of a Ford because they didn't like that he didn't take French III (or whatever bullshit), or celebrate that Pitt wouldn't part with a couple extra hundred thou to keep its most offensive coordinator ever, or a ton of other enraging examples ... you're killing your other pet cause.
I don't know if you're correct but I was wondering how much that bunch of "penny pinchers" spent and spend on Heinz? Hopefully taxpayers aren't footing the bill?
I'm a proponent of pro sports franchises paying 100% of the expenditures for stadiums, practice facilities etc.Cities can spend money making their city a great place to locate a franchise rather than spending the money building stadiums etc.
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Was talking to some people in the know and not because I know them but for basketball top 25 player some how $200,000 will change hands top 50 football player about 50,000 changes hand very dirty business
Speaking about the University of Cincinnati, from an article this past February (link below):
UC completed an $85 million renovation of Nippert Stadium in time for the 2015 football season. That project overhauled the 93-year-old stadium that had virtually no premium seating. It added 53 suites and 1,100 scholarship club seats. It also added a new press box structure on the west side of the stadium with a club lounge and expanded restrooms and concession areas. The changes increased overall capacity from 35,097 to about 40,000.
UC will also start an $87 million renovation next month of Fifth Third Arena, its on-campus basketball home.
They are putting in a new scoreboard for Nippert Stadium this season as well at a cost of $4-6 million dollars.
Imagine that putting all that money into an OLD, 93-year old stadium, when they have used the stadium of the professional NFL team Cincinnati Bengals in town. Go figure. Why in the world would they want an on-campus stadium when they have one already in the city that they have used In a city that's very close in size to Pittsburgh? Imagine that.
I don't see room for thousands of cars parking in open lots and tailgating. #TOTAL FAIL
http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinna...ng-another-big-change-at-nippert-stadium.html
Bama, Clemson, Michigan , 3 top programs right there , you want some from each conference?
Speaking about the University of Cincinnati, from an article this past February (link below):
UC completed an $85 million renovation of Nippert Stadium in time for the 2015 football season. That project overhauled the 93-year-old stadium that had virtually no premium seating. It added 53 suites and 1,100 scholarship club seats. It also added a new press box structure on the west side of the stadium with a club lounge and expanded restrooms and concession areas. The changes increased overall capacity from 35,097 to about 40,000.
UC will also start an $87 million renovation next month of Fifth Third Arena, its on-campus basketball home.
They are putting in a new scoreboard for Nippert Stadium this season as well at a cost of $4-6 million dollars.
Imagine that putting all that money into an OLD, 93-year old stadium, when they have used the stadium of the professional NFL team Cincinnati Bengals in town. Go figure. Why in the world would they want an on-campus stadium when they have one already in the city that they have used In a city that's very close in size to Pittsburgh? Imagine that.
I don't see room for thousands of cars parking in open lots and tailgating. #TOTAL FAILWhere are the open air lots within walking distance of the stadium? #TOTAL FAIL
http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinna...ng-another-big-change-at-nippert-stadium.html
Most likely why they are still in the aac and not a power 5.
That's funny. Try again.
I can tell you about a local recruit who walked away from a visit to UM with $10k in a bag.
I can tell you about a local recruit who walked away from a visit to UM with $10k in a bag.
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Speaking about the University of Cincinnati, from an article this past February (link below):
UC completed an $85 million renovation of Nippert Stadium in time for the 2015 football season. That project overhauled the 93-year-old stadium that had virtually no premium seating. It added 53 suites and 1,100 scholarship club seats. It also added a new press box structure on the west side of the stadium with a club lounge and expanded restrooms and concession areas. The changes increased overall capacity from 35,097 to about 40,000.
UC will also start an $87 million renovation next month of Fifth Third Arena, its on-campus basketball home.
They are putting in a new scoreboard for Nippert Stadium this season as well at a cost of $4-6 million dollars.
Imagine that putting all that money into an OLD, 93-year old stadium, when they have used the stadium of the professional NFL team Cincinnati Bengals in town. Go figure. Why in the world would they want an on-campus stadium when they have one already in the city that they have used In a city that's very close in size to Pittsburgh? Imagine that.
I don't see room for thousands of cars parking in open lots and tailgating. #TOTAL FAILWhere are the open air lots within walking distance of the stadium? #TOTAL FAIL
http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinna...ng-another-big-change-at-nippert-stadium.html
This post is 19 years too late.
