Tino Sunseri...
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Tino seemed to lack the one thing all QBs need - confidence.
After a game, Tino never took his helmet off. The other players from both teams would be walking around with helmet in hand, and Tino would have his on.
Actually, he had plenty of confidence - he just lacked talent... and he never took his helmet off because leaving it on made him appear 3 inches taller- he didn't want people clearly seeing he was really only 5'10" and not 6'1 /6'2" as he claimed to be.
Wouldn't that be a result of not having enough self confidence?
Maybe? I don't know, but that's the impression I'm left with.
Someone with confidence is comfortable in his own skin, and knows not to be concerned about what he can't change. Like his height, for example.
#3 Oklahoma - Baker Mayfield
#4 Penn State - Trace McSorley
#5 USC - Sam Darnold
#6 Ok State - Mason Rudolph
#7 Washington - Jake Browning
#8 Michigan - Wilton Speight
#9 Wisconsin - Alex Hornibrook
Those QBs all have something in common, with respect to skin color.
You were saying?
Have you watched J.T. Barrett? The guy can't throw his way out of a paper bag. Alabama kid is a stud though.
Tino is providing some needed stress relief in this thread. He's like the teddy bear you just punch and punch when you're mad.
Then we got Van Pelt and he went to WR. But Van Pelt was better, and he was in the NFL at least a decade
Do you want a quota?
Steelers only had one black QB that played significantly, and he was only marginally successful. should they seek another, just to say they did?
I don't care if we ever have a black QB, or a white QB ever, I just want good QBs every year.
The best QB's for Pitt in the last 50 years: (In order)
1. Cavanaugh (could beat you with arm or legs)
2. Marino (great arm and intangibles)
3. Gonzalez (could put the team on his back and carry them)
4. Peterman (played big in big games)
5. Van Pelt (prolific)
1. Cavanaugh (could beat you with arm or legs)
2. Marino (great arm and intangibles)
3. Gonzalez (could put the team on his back and carry them)
4. Peterman (played big in big games)
5. Van Pelt (prolific)
I'm sorry burger, but I can't include Van Pelt on that list. Yeah he is the all time passing leader, but the teams record mitigates that. How many 3rd and 10's and Hackett/Van Pelt would call a 4 yard sideline pass to the tight end? #5 should be Rod who had some nice seasons here.
what does Marino's lack of getting it ('it' meaning Pitt is IT) done with the Pitt's greatest assemblage of talent ever for three years mitigate?
To not have Marino as #1 is way beyond idiotic.
Yes. 3 of top 10 have black QBs. 7 of top 10 have white QBs.
The lesson here is.... the skin color of the QB is completely immaterial to his success or failure.
He projected a sense of self confidence but maybe you are right that he was not truly comfortable in his own skin (since he was busy trying to cover up his limitations). He was careful to appear confident when selling everyone on the idea that he's the right guy to lead the team to victory -much like Browne- even though his performance on the field always seemed to suggest otherwise.
I agree with everything except the bottom list. He was nowhere near the level of Turman, Gonzalez, or stull. Pete Gonzalez took a disaster of a program to a bowl game. Turman was a very efficient passer. And Bill Stull might be the most underrated player in pitt history. From the second tino set foot on campus the chants began, yet as soon as stull left and tino took over it was obvious what a big loss stull was.
I debated whether it should be Van Pelt or Rutherford at #5. I could go either way...
you chose to mitigate Van Pelt's numbers by lack of the teams he played for living up to expectations...I did the same for Marino.
Statistically black QBs are OVER represented, as blacks are 13% of the population. 30% of the top 10.
To be honest, I don't think blacks should ever complain about their representation in sports.
I don't think anyone was complaining.
There was a poster that said Pitt couldn't be successful unless they recruited a black QB.
I'm just pointing out that the skin color of the QB has nothing to do with his success or failure.
I'll take a one-armed midget QB if he can win games.
On that note in true Pitt fashion Palko never got to play with Fitzgerald because Fitzgerald left early.
It is stupid to have a skin color debate. I do think it is regrettable that we tried a coach that ran the spread once with graham, and have since kept basically a pro style offense, with the wrinkles they added last year.
I'm just not sure if pitt can ever truly win by running a strict pro style offense.
Really not good. As someone from Buckeye country, it's exasperating to the faithful that he's clearly holding this team back.
Agree. I'll agree that Graham was a jerk. But i wanted to see him have a real chance to make his offense work here. Meaning more than one year and a real QB designed for it. It relies on gimmickry and charades you say? I say heck yes it does, and that's why i wanted to see it honestly attempted here. It's an offense with a chance to work for a team that can't get great recruits at most positions. Like ours.
Originally from Lisbon, family moved to Rayland in 1982, currently reside in Yorkville.
Tino was HORRIBLE for 3 years. He played better his senior year, in fact I would say he played excellent his senior year. Bull Stull made similar improvements... both loss many games for Pitt that Pitt should have won because we actually had good defenses
Alrighty. I lived in Wintersville up until a couple years ago. Hopefully Buckeye Local can turn things around soon.
