Tyler Effin Boyd OMG
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Rare talent. Alexander the great, indeed. Next of ours to end up in Honolulu, no question in my mind.
Not anywhere close to Larry Fitzgerald. Laugh if you want, but Fitz was unstoppable. Both interceptions would have been Fitz completions.
He has caught 20 passes for 273 yards against Iowa, with one TD.
If I read it right. Iowa reduced his yardage 23 yards, from last year's game. The TD was this year though.
Pitt needs to establish a #2 and #3 WR target. Dontez Ford had a very nice play on the sideline, but more is needed.
MSU lite has arrived in Pittsburgh, but you need to establish a QB. I wasn't impressed by either, quite frankly. Nathan Peterman is a little soft at times. Chad Voytik just hasn't put it together.
QB is a very important position. Iowa didn't have success in 2011-14 at QB. C.J. Beathard is best Iowa QB, since 2010 with Ricky Stanzi.
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If I read it right. Iowa reduced his yardage 23 yards, from last year's game. The TD was this year though.
Pitt needs to establish a #2 and #3 WR target. Dontez Ford had a very nice play on the sideline, but more is needed.
MSU lite has arrived in Pittsburgh, but you need to establish a QB. I wasn't impressed by either, quite frankly. Nathan Peterman is a little soft at times. Chad Voytik just hasn't put it together.
QB is a very important position. Iowa didn't have success in 2011-14 at QB. C.J. Beathard is best Iowa QB, since 2010 with Ricky Stanzi.
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Similar to Fitz, but yes Larry was better. When it comes down to it, Boyd has good hands, Fitz has the best ever. Look at his NFL career, it's rare to see Larry Fitz drop a pass. At Pitt, I don't know if Larry ever dropped a pass he really was just unreal. Totally robbed of the Heisman.
Amazing that Pitt can put in a legitimate claim for the best QB, RB and WR ever.
I mean ever to play the game. Not bad at all.
I mean ever to play the game. Not bad at all.
backyard brawl, Larry's freshman year. Dropped a pass that would have won the game. rare but it did happen.. Different style players IMO.. Great conversation though.
i dont know about the first one unless fitz was secretly mr. fantastic or had go-go gadget arms
the second one i think fitz muscles in and makes that grab or at least breaks it up. he was fast and all that but he was strong as a bull too. tyler's no weakling but he's definitely not as big and strong as fitz was in college.
If I'm not mistaken I think third and fourth down, they threw to Larry in that game. I vividly remember listening to Walt on the radio on the way home from the game. Without ever mentioning the officials, he basically said Larry doesn't drop a pass unless something happens. I was way up on the other side of the stadium so I couldn't tell if there was interference or not.
Not an excuse either, just thought it was funny someone brought that up because I was just thinking of Walt's comments after the game.
Crazy the losses we had that season just in general. 9-4 with 4 close losses. I can still picture the ball sailing over Yogi Roth's head on 4th down in Miami.
Sorry about that lol. Just one of those plays I'll never forget. Thursday night on the road against the #1 team, defending national champions. If we could've hung on to win that game, might have really changed the future of this program.
Even when James Conner was healthy, Tyler Boyd was our best player. He just does a lot of things incredibly well. Also, he has such ridiculous body control that he makes really difficult plays look exceptionally easy. I don't say this lightly but I would be astonished if he stayed healthy and wasn't an excellent pro.
The announcers kept saying that Ferentz told them he reminded him of Odell Beckham and I do see some of that - especially from a body control standpoint.
That said, Larry Fitzgerald Jr. was one of those once-in-a-lifetime freaks that just made play after play after play. That was practically surreal. He was on a different level than Boyd and Antonio Bryant - PItt's second and third best WR's all-time, IMHO.
My all-time favorite Fitz story was actually against Boston College. They had a corner whose name escapes me (Blackmon maybe?) but who was touted as a possible first round draft choice. That kid talked a LOT of trash that week about how he was going to lock up Fitz and all the rest of it.
Pitt ended up winning the game and Fitzgerald ended up with a stat line of something like 7 receptions, 128 yards, and a touchdown. After the game the BC corner was bragging to the assembled media about how he had shut down Fitz.
I just shook my head at the notion that 128 yards and a touchdown was somehow being "shutdown." That goes down for me as something along the lines of one of Mario Lemiuex's many "quiet" 4-point nights. You have to be obscenely talented to be that productive and have that be considered a win by the defense.
Boyd is an excellent player but Fitzgerald is the best college WR I have ever seen and I am not prone to hyperbole.
The announcers kept saying that Ferentz told them he reminded him of Odell Beckham and I do see some of that - especially from a body control standpoint.
That said, Larry Fitzgerald Jr. was one of those once-in-a-lifetime freaks that just made play after play after play. That was practically surreal. He was on a different level than Boyd and Antonio Bryant - PItt's second and third best WR's all-time, IMHO.
My all-time favorite Fitz story was actually against Boston College. They had a corner whose name escapes me (Blackmon maybe?) but who was touted as a possible first round draft choice. That kid talked a LOT of trash that week about how he was going to lock up Fitz and all the rest of it.
Pitt ended up winning the game and Fitzgerald ended up with a stat line of something like 7 receptions, 128 yards, and a touchdown. After the game the BC corner was bragging to the assembled media about how he had shut down Fitz.
I just shook my head at the notion that 128 yards and a touchdown was somehow being "shutdown." That goes down for me as something along the lines of one of Mario Lemiuex's many "quiet" 4-point nights. You have to be obscenely talented to be that productive and have that be considered a win by the defense.
Boyd is an excellent player but Fitzgerald is the best college WR I have ever seen and I am not prone to hyperbole.
It was Blackmon and it was over 150 yards Larry caught on him on yes 7 grabs with a TD. Just about all 7 were very important receptions at those times in the game too. Blackmon got some attention trash talking the week before but I remember him trying to keep it up after got a lot less of the spotlight.
I think Boyd and Fitz are very similar in that they are great natural receivers. Boyd is more elusive and a better RAC guy, but Fitz was a tank going up for a ball, and was the best at high pointing a ball there might have ever been.
Thank you...you beat me to it. Folks must have some short memories. Larry Fitz was the best WR to ever wear a Pitt Panther uniform - and maybe even the best WR to ever play for a Pittsburgh football team - at any level. Antonio Brown might someday change that, but for now, Fitz remains The Man.
Fitz is even better than Swann and Stallworth, who were both magnificent in their own right.
Treat yourselves and watch Larry's Pitt highlights on YouTube. He is undeniably the best. I love Boyd but it's Larry Fitzgerald and everyone else when talking about Pitt WRs. Hell, he was only here for two years and there was no doubt he'd be an awesome pro.
Yes, we had some excellent receivers. Boyd is definitely the one that has done it all ... all by himself so to speak. I agree Fitz was a legend instantly as well.
I was at that game seated in the corner of the field. It is burned into my memory as well. If he was only 2-3 inches taller...........
Yogi was like 5'4" and poor 6"6" Rod R had to try to "groove" the ball into Yogi. It was like that old photo of when Bill Veeck had a midget (or vertically challenged) bat in a MLB game.
No question Tyler Boyd from Day One as Freshmen was exceptional and is now even more exceptional in talent, leadership, an character. Yet, Pitt has has number if them just as exceptional in my opinion.
Tony Dorsett:
Tony Dorsett as a freshmen was an instant All-American Star at 140 Lbs and by the end of his career was 190lbs. He could run and catch and just has natural flowing abilities and you could see he was better than anyone on the field and that was when playing against Oklahoma, USC, ND, Penn state, Georgia, and Top 5, 10, and 25 Programs. Tony could have been a Great Wide Receiver and Defensive Back just as good as Boyd as well. Heisman Winner!
Larry Fitzgerald:
I find it hard to distinguish Fitz from Boyd! They look like Clones to me at Wide Receiver but Boyd may be a tad faster. They were Instant All-Americans and just exceptional from Day One at Pitt and everyone could see he was better than the other players on the field both Pitt and Opponents!
Heisman Runner Up!
Darelle Revis:
In my opinion had the same abilities, talent, and quiet leadership by example of his play as Tony Dorsett. He was a QB in High School that scored TDs at QB, RB, WR, KR (Kickoff Returner), Punt Returner, DB Interception Returner! He could have been a great Quarterback, Running Back or Wide Receiver but he was put at Defensive Back and his NFL Play speaks for itself every Sunday! Everyone could see he was better than the other players on the field both Pitt and Opponents!
Shady McCoy
Chose to play at Pitt rather sit the bench at Penn State and escaped the fate of failure at Penn State. He was and is a terrific running back and could play Wide Receiver or Defensive Back, but is just a natural at Running Back! Everyone could see he was better than the other players on the field both Pitt and Opponents!
Tyler Boyd:
Tyler could play Running Back or Defensive Back as well, but his focus, determination, and discipline in running his routes, changing his moves, and catching is s good as Antonio Brown and Larry Fitzgerald combined. He has quiet leadership as well and just leads by performing. Another Pitt Blessing! Everyone could see he was better than the other players on the field both Pitt and Opponents!
Jordan Whitehead:
Remains to be seen but looking quite good and Pitt will be just as proud and can be used at Running Back and Wide Receiver too! Everyone could see he was better than the other players on the field both Pitt and Opponents!
Players that showed similar Talent but chose the wrong Schools and never developed. If they came to Pitt they may have played far faster and developed stronger, smarter, and better like Dorsett, Fitzgerald, Revis, McCoy, & Boyd ended up injured and not living up to their abilities, but could have been great Running Backs: None Come Close To Those Above At Pitt In Proving Their Talent!
Robert Alexander at WVU-RB or WR, Big Bust with many abilities.
Justin King Penn State-RB Or WR or DB should have never went to Penn State and remain at RB.
Larry Johnson-RB Thug & Squander Abilities
Rushel Shell WVU-RB Only & Lacks Leadership!
Robert Foster-Bama Injured Prone!
Maybes Still Waiting To See If They Can Equal The Pitt Lists Above:
Henry-WVU-Maybe But We Shall See?
Suquaon Barkley-Penn State
I wasn't very old then and I was thinking the same thing right as it happened. I liked Yogi, but it just figures he was like 5'9.
Boyd is really good but Fitz may have been better in college. Marino, Dorsett and Green for sure as best of all time in college.
Bill Fralic is in the conversation for best O-lineman. Hugh Green is the best defensive player to ever play college football. I'm a big Boyd fan but he is not Larry Fitzgerald. It's really not even that close. Fitz dominated pretty much every game and almost ( should have) won the Heisman. His career at Pitt is legendary. Comparing the two isn't fair to Boyd
At Pitt, or anywhere? In your lifetine, or ever?
He is an outstanding receiver. But there are better ones in college football right now. And Pitt has never had a receiver like Larry Fitz. That's Pitt's all time best WR by a country mile.
Boyd is great but he's no Larry Fitz. Who is? I think the only guy that has come out since Larry that is in his league is Calvin Johnson.
What bothers me with Boyd is that our offense doesn't allow him to be the vertical threat that he is. Have we completed one true deep ball to a wideout in these first 5 games? How many have we even attempted?
We have this explosive playmaker and he's really just a possession receiver running intermediate routes. Wasn't much better in Chryst's offense, but his YPC was a lot better than now. He's not gonna be on any all-American or even all-ACC teams this year at the rate our O s going. The numbers just aren't there for him in this O.
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Marino isn't even close to being the best all time college qbBoyd is really good but Fitz may have been better in college. Marino, Dorsett and Green for sure as best of all time in college.
Correct. As a long time Pittsburgher and Pitt fan, I love Marino as much as anyone, but lets keep it real. He was a complete underachiever in college. He was horrific his senior year and led the country in interceptions playing on a team where he was surrounded with an elite supporting cast.
CMP ATT PCT TDS YA TD INT RATE
221 378 58.5 2432 6.4 17 23 115.2 - DM
256 393 65.1 3288 8.3 21 3 151.5 - TS
Above I chose to use Tino Sunseri as a comparison because he was destroyed on this forum for being supposedly terrible. As you can see, he performed much better than Marino his senior year despite having only a sliver of Marinos talent and talent around him. Tbh, its no comparison. Marino sucked for us that year. He also sucked his freshman and sophomore years. His only decent year was as a junior and it wasnt great, as despite throwing a ton of TDs, he was again an interception machine.
The great NFL career he had overshadows the reality of his underachieving days at Pitt.
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