Nothing. But folks act like he was offering some novel insight that wasn’t already available to 99.9% of the board.
Vader Come Out, Come Out Wherever You Are!!
- Thread starter greekpanther
- Start date
I had a problem with him at first because he liked to drop the “my sources say” stuff. And not that I read his stuff and hung on every word, but it seemed to me that he stopped that kind of stuff and just posted insights, whether his own stuff or stuff he regurgitated from others. Either way, I started to mildly enjoy reading his posts when I felt he was no longer acting like some insider with sources. But maybe he never stopped...it’s just I stopped seeing that kind of talk when I came around here.
His schtick was silly and self aggrandizing .
He was a more amusing and informative smf since he actually would post stats based in reality -
Unlike smf who is most often untethered from it
You're starting to sound a bit whiny.
I said it was nice how he collated stuff on recruits.....that is why I think Vader was Doke. But he told people like Steelers72 and many others exactly what they wanted to hear. That this kid was a top talent, or we are in on this guy and such and such and yeah, great stuff to read, who wouldn't hear that...but at the end of the day, the line from Josey Wales applied: "don't go pissing down my leg and tell me its raining".
Because much of the "positive" stuff in regards to Pitt was not rooted in reality, just hope....fan hope. Which is fine, but you guys would buy this stuff like it is $1 drafts.
get banned, come with a new screen name and go right back to attacking posters. Great strategy.
He didn't steal anyone's info. He took very publicly available information, combined it, phrased it in the best possible light, and then reposted that information as analysis.
He was the TV Guide book from back in the day.
Last edited:
The Vader posts were by far the most enjoyable posts on the board if you are an optimistic person. I'd definitely enjoy more of them.
Oh no-
An anonymous poster having a positive spin on Pitt issues !
No wonder he bothered the fatalist
And whose posts are facts? At least he gave good recruiting information for all of us who do not follow all the possible recruits that Pitt is interested in.
The players not materializing on the court and not committing is on the coaches not Vader. Plenty of factual information that I didnt feel like scavenging for was included in the posts. I get not wanting to do Vader posts anymore too with the tsunami of negativity that kept coming in response to them, the lackluster on and off court results, and the transfer portal losses.
Not mad at all
Stick to sushi etiquette
Look, his posts were harmless. But they weren't reality, every Pitt commit is not an NBA prospect and every target was not leaning to Pitt (obviously). I understand people want to hear positive news, they want to hear what they want to hear. Unfortunately, in our society today, most people really don't want to hear the truth. So Vader's posts was like drinking strawberry kool aid. Fun, tastes good, makes you feel good, long term not so good.
Not being able to differentiate between what is fluff and what is truth is on the reader. I could pull up primary sources on the players he mentioned (youtube...) and see for myself how they performed. A secondary source is a secondary source. You either have a direct quote from a player about his thoughts on Pitt, or you don't. We are not victims of Vader posts, there was nothing bad about them. The societal problem is falling for unsourced garbage without looking for the primary source - not someone being positive on a message board.
Agree
Hey those who had a problem - feel free to fill the void by aggregating the same info and presenting your superior version
I’ve noticed nobody has made an attempt
He’s a dude posting with an alias
There isn’t anything more to it
Step up and be the aggregator of recruiting info out there with your critical analysis based in the reality you perceive
Holy crap/ guy posted Pitt related content and generated actual dissuasion about Pitt hoops
how outrageous
I agree that he sounded JUST like Doke. But I asked someone I know who knows Doke a little bit who said “there’s NO way Doke would post something he couldn’t take credit for.” Lol
Yeah I agree. It wasn’t always my cup of tea (I’m not particularly a fan of his style of self aggrandizement) but he was certainly harmless, and more often enjoyable to read.
Vader was reporting high school and club performances, where the recruits gave evidence of their production and potential. Vader provided information, and as Weaver noted, Vader didn't promise anything. If you took two tables, and you put Vader's posts on one, and all the Vader basher's posts on the other, and you compared them, Vader's posts would attract more interest. One can hope otherwise, but if he has been chased away by the carping criticism, we are still waiting for someone to step up and fill his shoes.
That’s factual
If Vader /steel was pumping up doke and his sources - then it would have been the dead give away .
Yeah, but here's the thing....I don't care. I mean, it bothers me none if he posts 30 posts a day or zero. I just gave my take as to let's just say, his overzealousness. It is much ado about nothing. At least from me.
Fwiw, the reaction to his posts from some on the board is over the top. I enjoyed the Vader posts and they added some fun to the conversation. Hopefully, he'll be back but I wouldn't be surprised if he grew tired of the backlash he was getting.
You have to admit to reading posters admit their issues on the forum while they blame Vader for their issues is 😆 too funny.
Last edited:
But he intentionally packages it with his own editorializing as though he is some font of college hoops knowledge. His personal “insights” as to how the player—that he never saw play outside of a highlight clip at most—would fit in and/or contribute at Pitt were just complete and total fiction and nonsense.
If all he did was post the regurgitated data and updated recruiting info I’d have no quarrel.
The fact that there are some posters who buy into his schtick and consider him to be a legit authority on the topics he posts about is remarkable to me.
By my memory of some of his posts John Hugley was supposed to be a dominant 4- 5 man in the NBA right now after leading Pitt to an Elite 8 as a true frosh.
