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What I REALLY don’t get about this fanbase...

If you’re going to lose, who cares whether it’s because you can’t play D or O.... that’s the heart of the issue. The target is to build a complete team

True dat. Just a personal preference, but I love great defense. I like physical over finesse.

FWIW, I had no trouble with Chryst offensively.
 
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Back to back 7 loss seasons
Staring 1-3 in the face

They played the current #21, #13 and #15 is up next. Most P5 teams are going to be 1-3 or 2-2 with that schedule.

People get so hung up on those numbers- which is why playing a tough OOC schedule makes no sense.

Most every other team goes 0-4 last year verses Clemson, UCF, ND and PedSt. That doesn't leave any much room for error; which is why no one else plays an OOC schedule like this.
 
They played the current #21, #13 and #15 is up next. Most P5 teams are going to be 1-3 or 2-2 with that schedule.

People get so hung up on those numbers- which is why playing a tough OOC schedule makes no sense.

Most every other team goes 0-4 last year verses Clemson, UCF, ND and PedSt. That doesn't leave any much room for error; which is why no one else plays an OOC schedule like this.
In year 4 if you’re getting not only beat but aren’t remotely competitive in those games
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Yes-
The program isn’t improving
 
In year 4 if you’re getting not only beat but aren’t remotely competitive in those games
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Yes-
The program isn’t improving

If you win the division in year 4, which has not happened before, is the program improving?

Do we need a coaching change every time there is s rebuilding year, or every year when the team does not live up to expectations?
 
Some of these dopes never learn. With the new transfer rule we’d probably end up losing about 10 guys on the 2-Deep, and this recruiting class. Narduzzi and Co. would probably blow things up on the way out the door. We would end up taking 2 steps back, and people would be taking about Narduzzi in the same manner they talk about Chryst, Wanny, etc.
Seriously you are worried about losing a mediocre recruiting class and few transfers? If you make the right hire guys are not going to leave in mass. If you bring in a dynamic coach and staff who can connect with the player none of this will be a problem. If you make the wrong hire then yes this could be an issue. Stability for stability sake is not going to improve the program.
 
If you win the division in year 4, which has not happened before, is the program improving?

Do we need a coaching change every time there is s rebuilding year, or every year when the team does not live up to expectations?
Is it really an accomplishment to win a division in which every team has 5 or more losses in the season? The bottom line is Pitt finished 7-7 which by any measure is mediocre.
 
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If you win the division in year 4, which has not happened before, is the program improving?

Do we need a coaching change every time there is s rebuilding year, or every year when the team does not live up to expectations?
You rebuild AFTER you produce a team that was truly an all around good FB team. This coach hasn't produced any team that had an effective O, D and special teams in the same year. He's delivered 2 teams who couldn't play defense, one team that couldn't play either and now we're entering the second season of a team with no offense. This isn't rebuilding; this is treading water with the waves lapping over our heads. Having said all that, we're stuck with the guy for who knows how long.....and we have, in the process, to listen to him justify dumb, indefensible decisions.
 
If you bring in a dynamic coach and staff who can connect with the player none of this will be a problem. If you make the wrong hire then yes this could be an issue. Stability for stability sake is not going to improve the program.

Who’s this surefire hire that wants to come to Pitt for what Pitt pays and is going to average 8 wins a season, every season minimum and consistently beat ND, Clemson, etc because if you know him I’d love to meet him. Bob Stoops, Urban Meyer are the only two names I can come up with but they sure as hell aren’t coming here for $3.5 million a year. I mean in a perfect world I’d want either of those guys over Duzz, but no one of that caliber is coming here, for better or worse Duzz has been achieving just barely better than what pitt has been doing the past 20 or so years. I’m not saying he’s great or maybe even good but I also can’t say his overall record here is bad.
 
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Chryst was also recruiting loads of players whose only other offers were MAC schools. Had he stayed, you would have seen the long-term effects of that -- and it wouldn't have been pretty.

Mark my words: Wisky will slowly decline as Chryst recruits fewer quality players. And do you think that Chryst could have had Pitt ready to play last Saturday like The Duzz did? If so, put down the crack pipe.

Narduzzi has his warts but let's not kid ourselves with revisionist history: Had Chryst's tenure lasted longer, his unwillingness to compete for higher-lever recruits and penchant for losing to weaker opponents would have ultimately regressed the program.
Wisky has always recruited at pretty much the same level. It hasn’t dropped off a bit under P.C. As long as they keep winning like they have, it won’t.

In fact, Chryst brought in their 2 highest rated recruits in decades this past cycle. And one of them, Mertz, is an all-American QB.
 
Seriously you are worried about losing a mediocre recruiting class and few transfers? If you make the right hire guys are not going to leave in mass. If you bring in a dynamic coach and staff who can connect with the player none of this will be a problem. If you make the wrong hire then yes this could be an issue. Stability for stability sake is not going to improve the program.
I’m sure a PS fan has Pitt’s best interest in mind. o_O
 
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