When LSU beats UGA
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How in the wide world of sports can a team like Bama have such garbage kickers year in and year out? I think I read they have a highly rated recruit for next year but man they’ve been shaky the last few years.
But yea the defense - or lack of - is shocking too. Guess it just shows how hard it is to be at or near the very top year after year after year.
But yea the defense - or lack of - is shocking too. Guess it just shows how hard it is to be at or near the very top year after year after year.
Oklahoma. They will have added a road win at Top 25 OKST and a neutral field win over Baylor.
Ohio State vs OU
LSU vs Clemson
Utah will likely get it-and will quickly learn they had no business in the CFP, much like MSU, Washington etc in the past.
Bama lost today because Tua was out and his backup threw 2 pick 6s. There is no drama in that game if Tua plays at full strength. The outcome of the Bama-LSU game also might very well have been different had Tua been full strength.
This is the problem with the 4 team system. At least one 1-loss team is getting left out.
And of Georgia wins, then neither Oklahoma/Baylor or Utah will get in.
And of Georgia wins, then neither Oklahoma/Baylor or Utah will get in.
Again, this shows you the absurdity of the "we can't expand the playoffs because it cheapens the regular season" crowd. You have an 8 team playoff, you don't need anymore, you have the 5 P5 Champs, one Group of 5 teams and two wild cards, all of these games this weekend take on a different look. Until Alabama lost, anything the Big 12 or Pac 12 did was absolutely meaningless. So how does that make the regular season more meaningless when essentially you are telling two P5 conferences, and the entire Group 5, that they don't matter??
Style points will come into play. It will be between Utah if they win, and the winner of the Big 12. If UGA wins, then they are obviously #4.
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It's going to be difficult to shut out a one loss Pac 12 team like Utah. The committee will favor a western team for regional balance.
Which would end up being the right result, as I’m reasonably confident that UGA is one of the best 4 teams in the country, where I don’t believe that about OU or especially Utah.
No style points needed. Oklahoma will jump Utah on Tuesday and play a higher ranked team on Saturday than Utah does. If Oklahoma and LSU win, there's a 100% chance Oklahoma gets in
We all agree that Utah can't hold a candle to osu or lsu
So why add 4 more teams that we know can't hold a candle to tosu or lsu
So why add 4 more teams that we know can't hold a candle to tosu or lsu
LSU should jump Ohio St if they beat Georgia handily. Their resume is stunning. Will they? I don't know.
Should be:
1 LSU vs 4 Oklahoma/Utah
2 OSU vs 3 Clemson
I want to see an LSU-Clemson final.
What happens if both OU and Utah lose their conference championship? Is Baylor in next?
Should be:
1 LSU vs 4 Oklahoma/Utah
2 OSU vs 3 Clemson
I want to see an LSU-Clemson final.
What happens if both OU and Utah lose their conference championship? Is Baylor in next?
Any given Sunday, er, Saturday. That's why. Well not really. Must be money then.
OU/Baylor winner. Utah has bad OOC also and not nearly the wins that those 2 will have.
The real battle is who will be #1 heading into the playoff, LSU or Ohio St. Both would love to avoid Clemson in the first semi, as either Utah or Oklahoma are relatively weak #4’s. In my opinion LSU should nail down the top spot with a win over Georgia, their body of work and big wins are more than Ohio St can match.
I am pretty sure Utah is better than Oklahoma and should be a slight favorite on a neutral field, not sure how the committee will rank them though.
SMF’s Oklahoma is “100%” over Utah is way off as usual however.
I am pretty sure Utah is better than Oklahoma and should be a slight favorite on a neutral field, not sure how the committee will rank them though.
SMF’s Oklahoma is “100%” over Utah is way off as usual however.
You’re criticizing Utah’s OOC? Really? At least they beat BYU and an average MAC team in Northern Illinois.
I challenge you to find 1 team in the entire country with a worse OOC schedule than Baylor. Actually I will save you the trouble, you won’t find one.
For the record Baylor played these teams:
Stephen F. Austin
UTSA
Rice
That may be the worst OOC schedule by any P5 team in recent college football history, and will be the reason given why they are excluded even if they beat Oklahoma .
I think if Oklahoma beats Baylor, it is in. That Oregon loss really screwed things up, because they likely would have easily been in if they would have beaten Utah and Utah would also get the boost by beating a highly ranked Oregon.
Why does the basketball tournament include literally dozens of teams that can't hold a candle to the top teams in the country every year?
You can't decide on the fly how many teams are going to make the playoffs every year, so the argument that THIS year the number four team isn't nearly as good as the top three really doesn't matter.
Not that they could make the playoffs- Wisconsin's OOC is similar without a team inside the top 100.
Central Michigan, Kent State, and South Florida is a pretty bad OOC, but it looks like murderers row compared to Baylor.
Last I looked they are all outside the top 100. Doesn't matter where they fall once you are that low
Well, of course it does when you’re making schedule comparisons. The teams on Utah’s OOC would crush the teams on Baylor’s. BYU would be a 30 point favorite over every one of that sad group.
And how is BYU out of the top 100? Every ranking system I see has them around the same as Pitt.
Yeah that’s my bad, I’m arguing with 2 different guys on 2 different forums at the same time about Baylor’s OOC.
I will still say that Wisconsin’s is tougher than Baylor’s by a longshot, Tough is a relative word in this case I guess, Wisconsin’s is weak and Baylor’s is the worst I’ve ever seen.
The only reason I said 100% is because I couldn't go any higher. Oklahoma will jump Utah on Tuesday and its not possible for Utah to move past them if Oklahoma beats Baylor. Baylor is 11-0 against teams not named Oklahoma in a much tougher conference.
We have learned in the past that the next to last vote means absolutely zero. They don’t move them up and down like those idiot pollsters do, each week they totally reevaluate and start over anew.
Just because a team is #4 in the next to last vote and wins doesn’t mean they’re going to stay there.
And that's the exact reason why Utah cannot get in over Oklahoma. If this was a traditional poll, Utah would have remained where they are with wins over Colorado and Oregon because media members and coaches dont take the time to look at the full body of work. With Oklahoma winning at OKST and vs 11-1 Baylor, that's way more than enough for them to jump over Utah who would have 2 wins that were of less quality.
OU: 100% with a win.
Not saying you’re wrong, just not nearly as clear as you think it is.
If they had a play in on a neutral field I would open Utah somewhere around -2 over Oklahoma.
Looks like Utah if they beat Oregon or the Ok vs Baylor winner. The better question is if LSU loses do they fall the whole way out or down to 4. I say they are better than the other 1 loss teams so they should get in.
Pretty sure the conference title games are meaningless to LSU and Ohio St. They are in win or loss.
In fact, to quote SMF I’m 100% sure.
