Why does anyone care

[Fsgolfdr]

About JDs compensation ?
1.) are you paying it
2.) would the ticket prices go down if he was paid less
3.) maybe the level of required donations would be reduced
4.) the concession stands would be more reasonable
5.) parking would be free
6.) your an underpaid D1 coach and pissed and jealous
7.) your a professor and making a fraction of his salary despite having a PH.D. and years of service
8.) your a scholarship athlete whose family can't afford to watch their child play in person
Stop whining about his salary he earned it with his past accomplishments and it was negotiated to keep the winningest coach Pitt ever had here. College athletics at the D1 /P5 level is big business they did what they did because they ( administrators ) felt it was a good business decision. It's the cost of playing in the P5 conferences. Right now you could argue that it wasn't a good decision ,but it's done his salary is what it is and his buyout is what it is. None of this affects any of us in our day to day lifes so why do people constantly bring it up. For 3 million dollars he should etc etc it's not your money and it will never be your money! Is he going to give it back , NO, maybe he should stand at the elevators and hand out $100 bills after every loss. Business being business unless someone else foots the bill ( buyout) JD will be here for awhile a new coach would have to generate enough new revenue to cover JDs buyout and I don't see that happening. REPEAT AFTER ME ITS NOT MY MONEY NOR WILL IT EVER BE!

 

[NTOP]

About JDs compensation ?
1.) are you paying it
2.) would the ticket prices go down if he was paid less
3.) maybe the level of required donations would be reduced
4.) the concession stands would be more reasonable
5.) parking would be free
6.) your an underpaid D1 coach and pissed and jealous
7.) your a professor and making a fraction of his salary despite having a PH.D. and years of service
8.) your a scholarship athlete whose family can't afford to watch their child play in person
Stop whining about his salary he earned it with his past accomplishments and it was negotiated to keep the winningest coach Pitt ever had here. College athletics at the D1 /P5 level is big business they did what they did because they ( administrators ) felt it was a good business decision. It's the cost of playing in the P5 conferences. Right now you could argue that it wasn't a good decision ,but it's done his salary is what it is and his buyout is what it is. None of this affects any of us in our day to day lifes so why do people constantly bring it up. For 3 million dollars he should etc etc it's not your money and it will never be your money! Is he going to give it back , NO, maybe he should stand at the elevators and hand out $100 bills after every loss. Business being business unless someone else foots the bill ( buyout) JD will be here for awhile a new coach would have to generate enough new revenue to cover JDs buyout and I don't see that happening. REPEAT AFTER ME ITS NOT MY MONEY NOR WILL IT EVER BE!

His deal includes incentives......the $3 million+ was half accumulated incentives/deferred comp from prior years.

 

[Cap pitt]

About JDs compensation ?
1.) are you paying it
2.) would the ticket prices go down if he was paid less
3.) maybe the level of required donations would be reduced
4.) the concession stands would be more reasonable
5.) parking would be free
6.) your an underpaid D1 coach and pissed and jealous
7.) your a professor and making a fraction of his salary despite having a PH.D. and years of service
8.) your a scholarship athlete whose family can't afford to watch their child play in person
Stop whining about his salary he earned it with his past accomplishments and it was negotiated to keep the winningest coach Pitt ever had here. College athletics at the D1 /P5 level is big business they did what they did because they ( administrators ) felt it was a good business decision. It's the cost of playing in the P5 conferences. Right now you could argue that it wasn't a good decision ,but it's done his salary is what it is and his buyout is what it is. None of this affects any of us in our day to day lifes so why do people constantly bring it up. For 3 million dollars he should etc etc it's not your money and it will never be your money! Is he going to give it back , NO, maybe he should stand at the elevators and hand out $100 bills after every loss. Business being business unless someone else foots the bill ( buyout) JD will be here for awhile a new coach would have to generate enough new revenue to cover JDs buyout and I don't see that happening. REPEAT AFTER ME ITS NOT MY MONEY NOR WILL IT EVER BE!

Thank S P for that!!!, Don't think it had anything to do with business, S P rewarded him fo his first 8 or 9 years

 

[Pittx9]

If Jamie would've left Pitt during their best years, everyone would've bitched that Pitt needed to pay him more. Well, they payed him more and now everyone is complaining about that. It might not look good now, but if anyone really thinks Jamie shouldn't have gotten that money when he did, they are using the future to promote their lies.

 

[PittPoker]

Pittx9 it's paid, not payed.

 

[Pittx9]

Pittx9 it's paid, not payed.

Whoops. Good eyes.

 

[Gep Dawg]

Despite the last few years not being as good as his first few years he is still one of the top head coaches in the country. He has built a program that despite being in the top conference in the country goes into every season expecting to make the NCAAs. I mean does anyone realize he has has one losing season in 13 years are school with almost no basketball tradition or a natural recruiting market? Not to mention a conference switch that has forced him to completely rebuild the style and recruiting footprin of the program the past 3 years.

 

[The Sisco Kid]

Despite the last few years not being as good as his first few years he is still one of the top head coaches in the country. He has built a program that despite being in the top conference in the country goes into every season expecting to make the NCAAs. I mean does anyone realize he has has one losing season in 13 years are school with almost no basketball tradition or a natural recruiting market? Not to mention a conference switch that has forced him to completely rebuild the style and recruiting footprin of the program the past 3 years.

knock it off, he is not one of the top head coaches in the country, not even close. What is his record in conference games, without the 11 cupcakes wins he gets a year? It seems Virginia is playing his old big east style without a problem in the ACC.

 

[Delpanther]

If Jamie would've left Pitt during their best years, everyone would've bitched that Pitt needed to pay him more. Well, they payed him more and now everyone is complaining about that. It might not look good now, but if anyone really thinks Jamie shouldn't have gotten that money when he did, they are using the future to promote their lies.

They payed him more when his teams were playing like $hit! Do you get it?

 

[Gep Dawg]

He's had a winning conference record 11 of his 13 years as a head coach. He had the best conference record in the history of the big east. What the hell are you talking about? I would rather have this team be 10-8 in conference play and make a run in the tournament than have another top 4 seed end its season in the 2nd round again

 

[Cap pitt]

Despite the last few years not being as good as his first few years he is still one of the top head coaches in the country. He has built a program that despite being in the top conference in the country goes into every season expecting to make the NCAAs. I mean does anyone realize he has has one losing season in 13 years are school with almost no basketball tradition or a natural recruiting market? Not to mention a conference switch that has forced him to completely rebuild the style and recruiting footprin of the program the past 3 years.

Really? How hard is it or was it for Pitt to start off 10, 11, or 12 and 0 with their non conf scheduled year after year, and now Pitt has a hard time getting through those games without losing a couple of those games, lots of hostess cupcakes, and more and more Pitt fans agree with that, read all the posts, and not only the posts but look in the stands and see all the people there dequised as empty seats

 

[JD1976]

He's had a winning conference record 11 of his 13 years as a head coach. He had the best conference record in the history of the big east. What the hell are you talking about? I would rather have this team be 10-8 in conference play and make a run in the tournament than have another top 4 seed end its season in the 2nd round again

Rationale and facts have no place on this board when it comes to Dixon

 

[Pittx9]

He's had a winning conference record 11 of his 13 years as a head coach. He had the best conference record in the history of the big east. What the hell are you talking about? I would rather have this team be 10-8 in conference play and make a run in the tournament than have another top 4 seed end its season in the 2nd round again

Absolutely. Can't even debate that one. I would love for this team to pick it up now and get in, because quite frankly being a top seed has not fared well for Pitt.

 

[SoufOaklin4Life]

knock it off, he is not one of the top head coaches in the country, not even close. What is his record in conference games, without the 11 cupcakes wins he gets a year? It seems Virginia is playing his old big east style without a problem in the ACC.

This has been the worst 4 year stretch in Pitt hoops.
He's been 25-22 in the ACC.
his last year in the Big East went 12-6 in conference.

Shut up.

 

[NTOP]

Really? How hard is it or was it for Pitt to start off 10, 11, or 12 and 0 with their non conf scheduled year after year, and now Pitt has a hard time getting through those games without losing a couple of those games, lots of hostess cupcakes, and more and more Pitt fans agree with that, read all the posts, and not only the posts but look in the stands and see all the people there dequised as empty seats

Reading failure.....he talked about CONFERENCE wins. Those eyes reddened from screaming blinded you.

 

[R-M-U-h-o-o-p-s-f-a-n]

Rationale and facts have no place on this board when it comes to Dixon

In sports, having a good history is nice and respectable for sure.

For every sport, tho, you got to ask the coach & program "what have you done for me lately"???.

Pitt has missed the NCAA Tourney 2 of the past four years and has made the sweet sixteen since 2009.

These facts alone speaks volume to Dixon's decline & lack of recruiting abilities.

Go Pitt...

 

[Joe Magarac]

At what point did Dixon start losing it?
Was it when he got the big paycheck.
Was it when Pitt joined the ACC.
Was it when this group of assistants was hired.
Was it when he changed his defense/rebounding first philosophy
Was it a combination of some or all of the above.
Was it something else.
Cause it sure was something.
What are your thoughts?

 

[QuitCallingMeWanny]

What I don't get is the pure hatred for the guy, it is borderline psychotic...and for what? Because he didn't win a national title or failed to get to a final four? If that's the reason, it shows how sad and f'in pathetic your lives are...

You should have enjoyed the journey through all the big games he won and conf championships because news flash only one team wins it all at the end of the year

It is also quite sad that people seem happy this has happened the past few years...some of you clowns need to look in the mirror

 

[PittPoker]

What I don't get is the pure hatred for the guy, it is borderline psychotic...and for what? Because he didn't win a national title or failed to get to a final four? If that's the reason, it shows how sad and f'in pathetic your lives are...

You should have enjoyed the journey through all the big games he won and conf championships because news flash only one team wins it all at the end of the year

It is also quite sad that people seem happy this has happened the past few years...some of you clowns need to look in the mirror

Yawn.

 

[Cap pitt]

What I don't get is the pure hatred for the guy, it is borderline psychotic...and for what? Because he didn't win a national title or failed to get to a final four? If that's the reason, it shows how sad and f'in pathetic your lives are...

You should have enjoyed the journey through all the big games he won and conf championships because news flash only one team wins it all at the end of the year

It is also quite sad that people seem happy this has happened the past few years...some of you clowns need to look in the mirror

Nobody hates JD, it was great winning in the best conference in the country (big east) but the last 4 or 5 years have been mediocre at best, everybody wants JD to get back to the winning ways he once lead Pitt to, but it's not happening and if he can turn it around now midseason that would be great, im all for it, and some ask who would Pitt hire that would be better then JD? Just never know, look at the football program, when Chryst left people asked the same question, Pitt didn't hire an established head coach, they hired an assistant to become a head coach, not only did he win more games then Pitt won in the last 6 years, but look at his great job at recruiting, sure we all want JD to turn it around, but????

 

[QuitCallingMeWanny]

Yawn.

Kinda of like you.......great response, you have nothing cause its all true

 

[QuitCallingMeWanny]

Nobody hates JD, it was great winning in the best conference in the country (big east) but the last 4 or 5 years have been mediocre at best, everybody wants JD to get back to the winning ways he once lead Pitt to, but it's not happening and if he can turn it around now midseason that would be great, im all for it, and some ask who would Pitt hire that would be better then JD? Just never know, look at the football program, when Chryst left people asked the same question, Pitt didn't hire an established head coach, they hired an assistant to become a head coach, not only did he win more games then Pitt won in the last 6 years, but look at his great job at recruiting, sure we all want JD to turn it around, but????

I think you need to read this board a little more carefully, in regards to your first sentence

 

[Gep Dawg]

Paul Chryst went .500 every year he was here. Jamie Dixon has had one losing season since 2004. Paul Chryst is not even in the same ballpark as Jamie Dixon.

 

[NTOP]

Paul Chryst went .500 every year he was here. Jamie Dixon has had one losing season since 2004. Paul Chryst is not even in the same ballpark as Jamie Dixon.

NEVER had a losing season. 19 wins the worst. We won 26 games in 13-14.

 

[PHATWOOD]

I don't think the anger stems from his yearly compensation.

Likely, it's the knowledge that there's not significant contractual pressure on him to improve or to change any part of his approach in order to improve.

A good situation with a head coach is typically one where there is a five year window, and you're extending to about five years based on performance. Pitt is saddled with a contract that still has eight years from this season. Pitt has zero leverage at this time. They can't afford to eat that amount of a buyout and the head coach knows he's not under any pressure at all to turn it around.

I believe Jamie wants to win and win badly. But right now he's lost. And when the A.D. sits down with him to discuss what's going on, scheduling, assistants, recruiting, etc. he doesn't have any real reason to listen or make changes.

The AD is completely hamstrung right now. To me, that's what I think we're seeing, frustration from people who realize that Jamie, if he chooses to, can ride this puppy right in to the ground over the next five years before Pitt could even think about making a move. And even then, it will cost them a ton of cash.

 

[Cap pitt]

NEVER had a losing season. 19 wins the worst. We won 26 games in 13-14.

You can get 5 guys out of the cafeteria and beat some of those teams on our Out of conf schedule. And with that schedule we usually start out 12 or 13 - 0. So how hard is it to win 20 games a season?

 

[NTOP]

You can get 5 guys out of the cafeteria and beat some of those teams on our Out of conf schedule. And with that schedule we usually start out 12 or 13 - 0. So how hard is it to win 20 games a season?

I'm sure you couldn't do it.

 

[Fsgolfdr]

I don't think the anger stems from his yearly compensation.

Likely, it's the knowledge that there's not significant contractual pressure on him to improve or to change any part of his approach in order to improve.

A good situation with a head coach is typically one where there is a five year window, and you're extending to about five years based on performance. Pitt is saddled with a contract that still has eight years from this season. Pitt has zero leverage at this time. They can't afford to eat that amount of a buyout and the head coach knows he's not under any pressure at all to turn it around.

I believe Jamie wants to win and win badly. But right now he's lost. And when the A.D. sits down with him to discuss what's going on, scheduling, assistants, recruiting, etc. he doesn't have any real reason to listen or make changes.

The AD is completely hamstrung right now. To me, that's what I think we're seeing, frustration from people who realize that Jamie, if he chooses to, can ride this puppy right in to the ground over the next five years before Pitt could even think about making a move. And even then, it will cost them a ton of cash.

Poppycock JD wants to win much more badly than any of us and he's not oblivious to what's happening on the court and in recruiting. If Branes has ideas on how to improve the program I couldn't imagine JD turning a death ear to his input . If he does decide to thumb his nose at his Boss it will come back to haunt him. Winning is what allows you the power to do as you please and as it stands now the balance of power is shifting away from the coach.

 

[PHATWOOD]

Poppycock JD wants to win much more badly than any of us and he's not oblivious to what's happening on the court and in recruiting. If Branes has ideas on how to improve the program I couldn't imagine JD turning a death ear to his input . If he does decide to thumb his nose at his Boss it will come back to haunt him. Winning is what allows you the power to do as you please and as it stands now the balance of power is shifting away from the coach.

Enlighten me. How does the guy with a 20 million dollar buyout NOT have all the power? I'll sit here and wait for you to claim wildly that Jamie is going to let the guy that's been on the job at Pitt for seven months come in and tell him how to run his show.

As I said, I believe Jamie wants to win. That absolutely does NOT mean that he's enough of a man to have another man come in to his kitchen and tell him how to cook. That my friend, takes one hell of a man, or one hell of a broken man.

Poppycock. WTF? Are you 70?

 

[QuitCallingMeWanny]

Enlighten me. How does the guy with a 20 million dollar buyout NOT have all the power? I'll sit here and wait for you to claim wildly that Jamie is going to let the guy that's been on the job at Pitt for seven months come in and tell him how to run his show.

As I said, I believe Jamie wants to win. That absolutely does NOT mean that he's enough of a man to have another man come in to his kitchen and tell him how to cook. That my friend, takes one hell of a man, or one hell of a broken man.

Poppycock. WTF? Are you 70?

I don't think it is quite black and white like you make it out to be...Who knows but I would think Dixon has some respect for Barnes, considering Barnes' hoops background...IMHO

 

[NTOP]

Enlighten me. How does the guy with a 20 million dollar buyout NOT have all the power? I'll sit here and wait for you to claim wildly that Jamie is going to let the guy that's been on the job at Pitt for seven months come in and tell him how to run his show.

As I said, I believe Jamie wants to win. That absolutely does NOT mean that he's enough of a man to have another man come in to his kitchen and tell him how to cook. That my friend, takes one hell of a man, or one hell of a broken man.

Poppycock. WTF? Are you 70?

Where did you get that figure?? His salary isn't $3 million. Big incentives, deferred comp., etc.

 

[NTOP]

Enlighten me. How does the guy with a 20 million dollar buyout NOT have all the power? I'll sit here and wait for you to claim wildly that Jamie is going to let the guy that's been on the job at Pitt for seven months come in and tell him how to run his show.

As I said, I believe Jamie wants to win. That absolutely does NOT mean that he's enough of a man to have another man come in to his kitchen and tell him how to cook. That my friend, takes one hell of a man, or one hell of a broken man.

Poppycock. WTF? Are you 70?

What are you?? 13???

 

[Fsgolfdr]

Enlighten me. How does the guy with a 20 million dollar buyout NOT have all the power? I'll sit here and wait for you to claim wildly that Jamie is going to let the guy that's been on the job at Pitt for seven months come in and tell him how to run his show.

As I said, I believe Jamie wants to win. That absolutely does NOT mean that he's enough of a man to have another man come in to his kitchen and tell him how to cook. That my friend, takes one hell of a man, or one hell of a broken man.

Poppycock. WTF? Are you 70?

Didn't want to say you were full of shit. People have memories ,while now isn't the time to make a change the situation might change in a few years when the buyout is less of an issue. Telling your boss f...y... ( in your language ) isn't a good way to insure job security. Not acting on suggestions isn't the same as not listening ,but what if he says here's an additional 500k to upgrade your staff and you say Na I've got the guys I want. Your on the clock.

 

[PHATWOOD]

Didn't want to say you were full of shit. People have memories ,while now isn't the time to make a change the situation might change in a few years when the buyout is less of an issue. Telling your boss f...y... ( in your language ) isn't a good way to insure job security. Not acting on suggestions isn't the same as not listening ,but what if he says here's an additional 500k to upgrade your staff and you say Na I've got the guys I want. Your on the clock.

Jamie Dixon has 20 MILLION DOLLARS in his back pocket to go with the well over ten million he's banked since 2003. He can buy and sell Scott Barnes, and Scott Barnes might not even be his boss in 2023 anyways. Jesus.

What job security does he realistically need? He can basically go buy a massive estate in Hawaii in 2024 and wave goodbye to the rest of the world if he wants to. You think he really cares what the A.D. thinks?

He has absolutely no good reason to listen to anyone. If he's still struggling in five years, he's as good as gone. If he's not, he'll likely be extended again. But right now, he holds all the cards and I'm damn sure he knows it.

 

[PHATWOOD]

"Thus endeth the thread. Just stop while you're ahead."

 

[PHATWOOD]

What are you?? 13???

No, actually, I'm just intelligent.

Hush.

 

[PHATWOOD]

I don't think it is quite black and white like you make it out to be...Who knows but I would think Dixon has some respect for Barnes, considering Barnes' hoops background...IMHO

Well, we'll find out how much respect he has for Scott Barnes next year. My guess is ONE good OOC game and the usual RPI based schedule.

My guess is that there will be no changes to his assistants.

When the employee makes three times what the boss does and has more job security than his superior (at least in terms of guaranteed money) it's not a balanced playing field.

 

[NickPanthers]

This has been the worst 4 year stretch in Pitt hoops.
He's been 25-22 in the ACC.
his last year in the Big East went 12-6 in conference.

Pitt is currently 26-23 in ACC, not exactly what we had hoped for but I think he's built up enough equity to get at least another 2 years to right the ship.

After the 2017-2018 season, then we should consider the state of the program in my opinion.

Also, the decline didn't start with a move to the ACC, it started when Gil Brown, Wannamaker and McGhee departed the program after the 2011 season.

Remember that Pitt was 5-13 in Big East play in 2012.

He missed on some recruiting classes since then and that's the cause of the program's drop in performance.

 

[PittPoker]

He missed on some recruiting classes since then and that's the cause of the program's drop in performance.

Well he needs to stop missing.

 

[NickPanthers]

Well he needs to stop missing.

Haha Agreed!