At some point they are going to realize that Rutgers is an anchor to the conference. The model that helped Rutgers (being in an area with a huge population base for cable TV) is no longer viable.
Why Pitt is screwed because of TV
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I think they’d want Arizona State before they’d take Arizona. ASU is HUGE and in Tempe which is part of the greater Phoenix metro area.
I’ll let you know when there are rumors about Rutgers being kicked out. I just don’t see it in the near future.
Has any member from the Big Ten, SEC, ACC, PAC 10 been removed ?
And Pitt, Syracuse and BC.
WVU has zero small cities. Literally not a city over 50k and we got into a P5 league.
At some point the middle of the road schools want some wins. The role of Rutgers, Vandy, Indiana etc is to provide those wins to Ped State, Mich State, Iowa, Auburn etc.
Everybody keeps saying this. Those schools don’t control that.
TV does. They want captivating matchups….as many as they can provide. They don’t care if Iowa has 9 very difficult games.
It was the same in 2011 and it didn’t help one bit!!!! I know… This time it’s gonna be different!!!!!!
You guys are dreamers ….
You’re arguing against no one. I literally don’t know one fan who thinks we end up in the SEC (the only option between the two).
If you read the 247 board, there’s probably a few thousand comments and not one includes one that says we end up SEC.
Why don’t you go jump off a bridge?
Conferences control scheduling. And the SEC sets it up to maximize the number of playoff participants. They don't want their top teams all with multiple losses.
What is gold to a conference is a team that has a reputation of being good but actually sucks. This is what Texas brings to the SEC. And what Ped State brings to the B1g.
And the next tier down is the auto win category.
There are only so many TV slots to fill.
A slaughterhouse of a schedule isn't going to help those teams. Alabama might win the conference. If they have 4 losses, are they legit as national champs if other teams are undefeated?
The B1g uses the meat grinder schedule argument all the time without an actual tough schedule. It doesn't help them nationally with perception.
Don’t need to jump off a bridge. That’s for people with no life who constantly visits this board to spread opinions and passes them along as fact….
Take a leap…
Wrong. It actually did. Among other things, it got us into the B12 which has paid it's members more $$$ every year versus the ACC. But, you can believe what you wish.
With a difficult schedule, a champion could absolutely have 2-3 losses in this new construct.
You need to change the traditional mindset of “0-1 losses or else”.
TV is going to dictate that. Ohio St will be playing 6-7 legit games a year. Not 3. The current format drives the carriers mad because there’s not enough captivating inventory for them.
This is precisely the reason why the figures are going to be out of control, they’re creating scheduling flexibility, having numerous powerhouses in only 2 leagues, etc. It’s all changing.
Thankfully, it would make September college football a thing. Current September football is abysmal.
I don't get the dick swinging over how much money the tv contract is worth. What did that get WVU? How many NY6 bowls? Conference titles? Ranked at end of season? The fans pay the money. So you actually paid more for inferior performance. And this makes you proud.
what are you talking about?
He was responding to the original ignorant comment.
And his response was correct.
And it will be like a mid November game between the NYG and the Iggles both at 6-4 battling for division supremacy. Nobody other than the fans of those teams are watching that.
REALLY??!! Sorry to wake you up from your slumber, but TV revenue is 100% what is driving the bus. It has allowed WVU to invest shit tons into it's facilities over the past few years (which, among other reasons, is helping drive the best recruiting class we've had in a couple of decades).
By the way, in just about every measurable metric, WVU has outperformed Pitt over the past 10, 20, 30, 40 years. Yeah, you guys had a pretty good year last year, but one year doesn't change your stripes. Pitt is still considered a mediocre program with piss poor fan support.
More fantasies… LOL! If you were an asset, the ACC or the SEC would have invited WVU. They didn’t…. FACT! You can believe what you want, only take it to your message board…,
Once again, it didn’t help you then and it won’t help you now… Let’s cut to the chase….
Deep deep deep down, you know WVU has never and will never be on the same level with Pitt in any category. If you did, you wouldn’t be here…You hang around here to try and convince us and yourself that it’s not true. But it is… Stop kidding yourself. When the smoke clears, Pitt will be fine. WVU? Maybe, if the ACC saves your possum grease and invites your favorite team. Save this post too…
Case closed, clown…🤡
And what did it net you as a fan? WVU got more of your money. Your cable or streaming service costs you more. Ticket prices probably went up.
What measurable benefit to football performance resulted?
This money isn't coming from alchemy. It is coming from the fans.
I would argue that WVU fans have not had a positive return on that investment. But yet the money figures get thrown around like a Ped State fan arguing about their attendence at the Illinois game.
I love it. I am home sick with Covid, and honestly the board has been lame. So I am pleased to have riled some of you inbreds up.
So your response here is about recruiting rankings of an as of yet unsigned class and attendance. You must have some pedophile blood in you to use those as your go to metrics.
So let me profile you...from Greene County, Pa. Got a GED. Flunked out of PSU Altoona and graduated from WVU.
This is priceless. Pitt fan telling a WVU fan about the value of its two big boys teams to the fans.
It was a non-issue since we pay our student debt off in 30 days compared to 60 years for Pitt fans 🤣
Suckers.
You don't need to let me know anything about any rumors. But thanks for playing, anyway.
Student debt as a measure of football success. That's a new one.
Wow, now I fully expect Pitt to lose the opener.
So how do you pay off those loans so quickly? Is that some govt program for the disabled?
Thanks for entertaining me there.
I actually like WVU, and would like to see them in the ACC.
I look forward to whuppin yer arse just like the old days come September.
Close. Live in Chicago, Am COO of a company employing 24,000 people. And most likely paid more in taxes last year than you will make in a lifetime.
Wow. I am impressed. So why not post on the pay board? You can afford it.
But really, both you and I know you are lying.
Rich people don't pay taxes, unless they're rich and dumb.
So post that tax return and prove it!
Let him go. He is entertaining me. It's like when the varsity scrimmages the JVs. You keep smacking them around to let them know who's the boss, but not enough to actually injure them.
Alrighty then. Let's bet on the game. Even up---no points. I will concede that WVU is far superior so we'll make it up on the money line.
If WVU wins, I will pay you what I paid in US federal, state and local taxes.
If Pitt wins, you pay me what you paid in US federal, state and local taxes. Tax year 2021.
You know you can afford it. Are you scared?
And if you felt that sure about pitt and down on WVU the way you just did, you wouldn't be using the stereotypical name calling. Some of us come on other school's boards to defend our school because you're talking in public for all to see. That is that point. And to say WVU will never be on pitt's level in anything, including sports? You're dreaming.
Only a dipshit would do that. First, nowhere have I stated WVU is far superior...I've only stated we are far from inferior. And, in fact, in most measurable metrics over the past several decades, we rate above Pitt. Two, you would have to be a moron to bet you even up when I can bet in Vegas or online and get probably 5-6pts. Maybe a moron such as yourself would do that, but not me.
Two, I don't have to prove shit to you about what I do or what I make. But, your moronic posts pretty much cement my belief that you aren't in the same zip code on pretty much any level.
Most of us are only here (and checking out a few other boards) only to see how other programs are viewing the recent conference news and trying to get a gauge on what the general consensus is on the matter. Somehow, a few of these guys are flattering themselves thinking it is because we could give two damns about Pitt.
I’ll bet you think you’re impressing folks when you buy two cartons of milk at lunch, don’t you?
Damn son, you sound like a 6th grader.
WVU does some things really well. They
uncovered the VW emissions scandal. That was a PhD student I think. That's good.
WV the state's problem is the corruption in WV politics. The extraction industries underwrite it all, but they care not for those left behind.
I read a book a while back written by a WVU prof Russell Sobel. He wrote about how income and deprivation was very different in WV counties and the counties directly across the WV state line. He looked into the regulatory environment and legal environment as main culprits.
But yeah, this is an anonymous free sports discussion board. And we kind of like rivalry games, and this is one.
I used to live in WV, and my brother still does.
Bring your A game Pitt insult stuff to the board. Would love to see it.
But I wish no harm nor ill will on the state that changed sides in the middle of the Civil War. That may be the last correct decision WV has made.
Well mate, you just made my point. Even with incredible new facilities and all this Big12 money, you are still an underdog to Pitt! So what of value came from that money?
Illinois gets B1g tv money. They suck at football. Tv money doesn't equal automatic wins.
Um, I didn't ask how much you make ...you brought that up. So you are actually arguing with yourself.
I am impressed at your resilience. I keep knocking you down and you keep getting up. But now you're angry. That makes you vulnerable. I prey on the weak and vulnerable.
Dejavu. We went through this ten years ago. We’ll be fine. Pitt has more power than most realize. The ACC has not been touched. HailtoPitt!
If there's not enough money then teams like Rutgers won't stay in the Big Ten indefinitely. It'll keep stratifying.
You can keep feeding the alligator but you'll run out of food eventually and when it comes on the boat, you'll be the first to be eaten.
