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Would you rather have Dixon come back next year or have Brandin Knight?

I was all aboard the BK train. If he doesn’t produce fans will be trying to tear his number down from the rafters by year 2. I’d hate to see that happen to his legacy.
Odds are high he wouldn't produce. In its present state, this program would chew up far better and more accomplished coaches than BK, and spit them out to career assistantship. Watch and see where Capel goes from here.
 
Odds are high he wouldn't produce. In its present state, this program would chew up far better and more accomplished coaches than BK, and spit them out to career assistantship. Watch and see where Capel goes from here.

Where is Capel going to go from here for quality players?

The only hope is to get Horton and Burton back and right this ship this year and hope Mintz and Buchanan both wait for the late period to see how we actually progress this year as a team and how much we improve. If by some sort of miracle we get 2 of our best players back this season and win 6 or 7 acc games, then sure. But I dont think this Horton situation is going to be over anytime soon.

The bigger problem with this is Team Durant. We are heavily involved with Team Durant players in 2022 and 2023 where we put a lot of focus, including players that can reclass. Losing Mintz from Team Durant is such a giant blow I dont have words for it. His teammate Buchanan, also from Team Durant and most likely is going to start shooting up the national rankings, there is no way he is coming here without Mintz. And this puts a bigger problem on our Team Durant recruiting for 2023, real quality players we have a chance with. Without Mintz, this is going to crumble.
 
JD is not the man , the way he was treated here his pride would never allow him to come back . Plus at his age with no financial worries why would you want to undertake what appears to be an almost impossible task . No booster group , no fan support and a university that’s not fully committed to win .So between the two Knight is the only choice who’d take the job.

Whomever you hire you must add 3 million to his annual salary for the next 4 yrs , so with an empty Pete how much money do you think Pitts willing to invest in a men’s Bb coach especially when the Pete’s empty ?

Hire a big name coach better allocate another million and half for his assistants plus your going to have to pay him above market rates to get him . So hire a Pitino or Pearl just how many more seats are you going to sell ? Two thousand maybe three that doesn’t pay the bills .

Hire an unknown the Pete continues to be empty tomb until they’d return to a top 20 team .

Quite a pickle !

Unless a big monied booster comes forward and buys out JC he’s here for at least 2 more seasons . Losing a 17 yr old kid who now has every blue blood school salivating over him won’t make Heather and her bosses spend 20 million to replace JC no matter how bleak things currently are .

Capel is absolutely not here for 2 more seasons. That is absurd. In March, he's going to have 2-3 players on his roster, no recruits, a 6-26 record, and games with crowd sizes of 200-300, smaller than many middle school games.
 
He makes 850K per year at Kentucky, I looked it up. Brandin Knight would be a very cheap coach to hire as a D1 coach. He isn't getting a Power 6 job anywhere but Pitt anytime soon and the fanbase still loves him. The money that would be saved hiring Knight, can be used to spend on getting the best assistants money can buy. And yes, Pitt can steal them away with the right money offer. You dont seem to understand money talks.

Could Pitt get BK for 1.75 and Antigua as AHC for 1.5? Would Antigua take a $500K for an extremely difficult job over the easiest in the country?
 
Could Pitt get BK for 1.75 and Antigua as AHC for 1.5? Would Antigua take a $500K for an extremely difficult job over the easiest in the country?

In my opinion, we have to at least double Antigua's salary and in that case he would be out of his mind not to take it. But that is the benefit of getting Knight, he is a cheap head coach. If certain people don't like Antigua, there are a lot of other high quality assistants that would jump ship immediately for Pitt when we throw well over a million dollar offer on the table for an assistant, something no one else is paying.
 
I’m sorry but I struggle to see one box that Brandin checks other than the nostalgia box.

1. His time as the top Pitt assistant coincided with the downturn of the program and a regression in recruiting.

2. He is not even a top assistant at a bottom half Big Ten program.

3. If he wants to be a head coach so bad, why hasn’t he even been a finalist for a low major opening, especially one of the dozen or so programs in his home state where he is very popular.

So what exactly is his resume?
All very good points. I think I’m falling a bit too much for the PR story that would be very positive. Not too much positive right now.
 
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I don't disagree, but I'm not sure how much higher she can go. $4 mil?

With no basketball fan support in an athletic department that still needs to be subsidized university operating funds. If she doesn't get a donor to fund the buyout, her hands are really going to be tied.

She can start with downsizing the volleyball arena.
 
Looking back I’m sure she wished she never hired or extended JC deal , but she did . Now if you were her boss and she comes to you and says we need to move on from JC and we need 12-15 million to buy him out and then I need a can’t miss HC at 6-7 million a yr plus another 1.5 million for assistants are you giving her the ok ? I’m firing her !

She has to be close to being canned. She definitely will be if the next coach doesn't get to the NCAAT
 
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After you guaranteed Efton Reed and Jarrod West as Pitt locks, your credibility on recruiting was lost long ago.

You also predicted Ethan Morton was better than Femi and that Femi would bust because we beat Umass to get him.

You said Big John was a major project that no other program really wanted when we got him.

You also predicted Collier was the top impact recruit in the 2020 class.

You also predicted Drumgoole would have a large turnaround after his first year bust at Pitt

You also said Trey Mcgowens was a huge loss to Pitt when he has been a bust at Nebraska

You also guaranteed X was a high level NBA player after 1 year at Pitt, and this has been the worst take of them all.

He also said X was better than Femi. I said nope. Another W
 
1. You don’t know either of them.
2. XJ was second leading scorer for a tournament team on opening night and also put up huge numbers on bad teams.
3. Our coaching staff and every other coaching staff in America, do not agree.

yeah I'm not certain Femi is better than X.

X clearly raised the floor here. It's pretty amazing actually.
 
lol I said maybe three of those things. Thanks for reminding me about John. He’s a mid major big. Big win there.

Femi was the big surprise. He’ll be a great player for one year on a terrible Pitt squad and never play another second here. So yes, Morton will have the better career.

Hugley is a mid-major? He is phenomenal. Going to average 18 and 10 (on a terrible team) and name his team
 
1. You don’t know either of them.
2. XJ was second leading scorer for a tournament team on opening night and also put up huge numbers on bad teams.
3. Our coaching staff and every other coaching staff in America, do not agree.

Check back with me in March when Johnson is pouting on the bench. He sucks dude.
 
Hugley is a mid-major? He is phenomenal. Going to average 18 and 10 (on a terrible team) and name his team
Do you wanna bet he doesn’t average 18/10?

I will be literally any amount of money he doesn’t average 10 rebounds or 18 points. He may be able to do that at RMU, but I doubt it.
 
Hugley is a mid-major? He is phenomenal. Going to average 18 and 10 (on a terrible team) and name his team


I hate saying this and I need to see Big John at least in a few more games this year, but Femi and Big John would likely kill it at a school like Michigan State under Izzo and Tom Izzo would be all over these 2. If they did decide to transfer, it would be cool to see them join up together somewhere else if Capel is not here. I could also see them killing it at a school like Florida State where there is an emphasis on size and the bigs.

I mean if we had anyone that could shoot last game, both of their assist numbers would have doubled last game.
 
I hate saying this and I need to see Big John at least in a few more games this year, but Femi and Big John would likely kill it at a school like Michigan State under Izzo and Tom Izzo would be all over these 2. If they did decide to transfer, it would be cool to see them join up together somewhere else if Capel is not here. I could also see them killing it at a school like Florida State where there is an emphasis on size and the bigs.

I mean if we had anyone that could shoot last game, both of their assist numbers would have doubled last game.

Femi and Hugley are big-time and if they were on a good team, would be national stars. Its ashame they are the only P6 level players on the team.
 
BK had a huge hand in the Dixon implosion. Hard no. This thing needs to be blown up.
 
All very good points. I think I’m falling a bit too much for the PR story that would be very positive. Not too much positive right now.
I get it DT. There's an appeal to the thought of BK helping elevate/save the program as a player and then coming back to do it again as the coach.
 
Femi and Hugley are big-time and if they were on a good team, would be national stars. Its ashame they are the only P6 level players on the team.
There are players like Hugley and Femi on every team that put up numbers because of opportunities and don’t win. If they were actually that good we win vs the effing citadel.
 
There are players like Hugley and Femi on every team that put up numbers because of opportunities and don’t win. If they were actually that good we win vs the effing citadel.

Ashton Gibbs collapsed his senior year without Wanamaker and Brown. Take a look at how a 1st team All Big East player does without his sidekicks when Gibbs tried to shoulder the load without Wanamaker and Brown. Wanamaker was the glue and anchor of the 2011 team. When you dont have other elite players taking the pressure off, that's what happens.

You put Femi on a team like Michigan State, look out.
 
Ashton Gibbs collapsed his senior year without Wanamaker and Brown. Take a look at how a 1st team All Big East player does without his sidekicks when Gibbs tried to shoulder the load without Wanamaker and Brown. Wanamaker was the glue and anchor of the 2011 team. When you dont have other elite players taking the pressure off, that's what happens.

You put Femi on a team like Michigan State, look out.
Femi and Hugley would come off the bench if they got any minutes at Michigan State. And if Pitt traded Michigan state for their best big and guard, they’d beat the Citadel. Not get blown the eff out. You sound silly.

you keep using Gibbs as some parallel like the Gibbs teams ever were THIS bad. If those guys were THAT good, we wouldn’t be THIS bad. You guys sound ridiculous.
 
There are players like Hugley and Femi on every team that put up numbers because of opportunities and don’t win. If they were actually that good we win vs the effing citadel.

You know I'm going to remind you 100 times when Hugley is averaging 16 and 9 for like Michigan State next year. He is extremely skilled for his frame and could be one of the best Bigs in college basketball.
 
You know I'm going to remind you 100 times when Hugley is averaging 16 and 9 for like Michigan State next year. He is extremely skilled for his frame and could be one of the best Bigs in college basketball.
That’s literally the funniest thing you’ve ever said and u sent 1000 posts about May Madness. He’s like the 8th-12th best big in the ACC. MSU passed on him as did OSU.
 
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Ashton Gibbs collapsed his senior year without Wanamaker and Brown. Take a look at how a 1st team All Big East player does without his sidekicks when Gibbs tried to shoulder the load without Wanamaker and Brown. Wanamaker was the glue and anchor of the 2011 team. When you dont have other elite players taking the pressure off, that's what happens.

You put Femi on a team like Michigan State, look out.
I think Ashton Gibbs had a subpar senior season because he had to play a helluva a lot of point guard?
 
I think Ashton Gibbs had a subpar senior season because he had to play a helluva a lot of point guard?

Tray Woodall was the point guard who averaged 6.2 assists per game that season. The 2010-2011 team earned a 1 seed. The 2011-2012 team lost 17 games and went to the cbi.

Ashton Gibbs had the worst shooting performance of his entire high school and college career as a senior at Pitt. He shot 38% from the field and 34% from 3.

When you play with good or great players around you that can score inside and outside and dribble drive, it takes the scoring pressure off of you to shoulder the entire team. When Gibbs faced the pressure and the top defender every night without Wanamaker and Brown, his stats and shooting percentages collapsed.


The point is, if Femi played on a much better team with better players, his stats could be insanely good this year. The same may or may not be true for Big John, I need to see more this year. But when a good player doesnt have talent around him to help him and 1 or 2 players have to carry the entire team on their back, that player, in most cases at the college level unless you are like a Jordan, isnt going to be near as good statistically.
 
If we want to be the 11th-12th best program in the ACC, bring Jamie back. There are worse things as we now know. But perhaps we should aspire for more.

I don’t understand how anyone can say Jamie has done great in Fort Worth. Consistently finishing 8th in an 11 team league and aside from an occasional win vs an Oklahoma St or someone else…the only teams Jamie beats in that league since settling into the job are the teams who finish below him. Then when he has to play them in the 1st round of his conference tourney, he finds a way to lose.

He was fantastic here for a long time. HE WAS OUR PROGRAM. But he hit his expiration and that’s ok. It happens to the best of them.

it would be nice to find someone who can build this program back to respectability and then hand it off to someone who can take the ball and run with it. When Jamie left here, we were in a downward trajectory, but were still perceived as a respectable program. If we had only handed things off to the right coach then.
 
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You know I'm going to remind you 100 times when Hugley is averaging 16 and 9 for like Michigan State next year. He is extremely skilled for his frame and could be one of the best Bigs in college basketball.
Femi and John. Just guys on a bad basketball team. 2 like them everywhere in America
 
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