Wow. I really liked lyke. Hopefully the chancellor doesn’t f this up
Wow. Lyke fired as ad
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Just saw that. I thought she did a good job overall.
NIL and Portal world are different animals.
Sense that Gabel recognizes that.
But the new AD hire will be revealing.
Sense that Gabel recognizes that.
But the new AD hire will be revealing.
If our NIL is as bad as some say, there is no place to go but up with this hire.
Yeah.
I can see how they might need something different at AD. But loss aversion is very real when it comes to us Pitt fans and the AD position.
On the surface this is a stupid decision.
Yeah, on the surface her job performance from some random guy on the internet (me) looks great, especially in Olympic sports, and basketball, plus it seemed like she had a good relationship with Capel and Narduzzi. Likely something here we'll never know.
This is out of the blu
This clearly isn't a performance based decision.
Neither side seems to be happy. Best to part ways...The next AD hire will determine how much the new chancellor cares about athletics.
reports are she was seeking other jobs. So either she was unhappy and/or Pitt said good luck.
Rumor mill word is couldn't come to an agreement on contract length. All speculative. Take it with a grain of salt.
I realize Franklin is tough to recruit against, but there has to be more to him cleaning up locally the way they have. I'm sure NIL is a big part of it.
My first thoughts are "Pitt administration doing Pitt Administration things". My second thought is" I hope this Gabel broad knows what she is doing". Because Heather did some great things here.
I wonder if the ADM wasn't happy with her continuing to seek other jobs. Maybe the ADM thought was either make a firm commitment at Pitt or hit the road. Guess they thought to tell her to hit the road.
Wanted out, or was she being nudged out?
If her contract is up in December, without knowing what's on the table, I don't see how anyone can fault her for looking at other jobs.
Something doesn't seem right. Her performance with Pitt warrants an extension and praise for her successes here. I hope this isn't about some Boss Lady not liking another female in power and wanting to make her go away. I've seen strange female power plays in the office. I know this sounds a little chauvinistic.
i dont think joan gobel really cares too much about wpial recruiting. probably focused on higher priorities with pitt than us rebuilding the aliquippa football pipeline.
If you evaluate her based on:
70% football
29% men's basketball
1% Olympics
Would you say she has been a success?
This is how I feel.
It's tough when an employee is continuously looking to move on. Everyone should look to be happy in life and if that leads you to a different employer/job I'm fine with that, but an employer can't sit idly by and wait for the shoe to drop. Felt she did some very nice work for Pitt but not committed to the university, it was only her job so to speak. Maybe I'm wrong.
Is she even a success if you assign equal weight to all three? Peak has ran down her coaching hire hit %, and it isn't good.
But yeah - you shouldn't assign equal weight to all three, and football is in an awful spot.
playing devil's advocate here. she probably wouldnt be looking / interviewing if her contract wasnt up in a few months and they extended her..
how is pitt football in an awful spot?
the program pretty much spends more than about 90% of the conference. We have one of the highest paid HCs in the conference. last 10 years, we have won the conference and played in another championship. we have a very good conference record under Narduzzi..
again, why is football in an awful spot? Because some anonymous posters on here said we need higher NIL money? Pitt has always sucked at donations, dating back to the late 80's and only reason we were good back then was the golden panthers funnelled money to the athletes which was against the ncaa rules and should have gotten us put on probation..
NIL wasn't a prominent thing until like 2021, and the numbers didn't become really silly until 2022. Take into consideration the fact that recruits typically don't contribute for at least a year or two (or three), and I think it's safe to say that 2023 and 2024 are a lot better of a barometer in measuring our success than the totality of our conference record under Narduzzi.
Speaking of Narduzzi, you're saying that paying him big money through 2030 is a good thing? That contract is a freaking albatross. We'd be better off with a healthy NIL program and a coach making half of what he makes.
Again, the last ten years means nothing. The landscape changed within the last three years. I know we're all giddy because we beat Bishop Sycamore and the Bad News Bearcats. Let's reassess at the end of the season.
yeah, lets go cheap on the HC hire. that will turn it around..
Pitt has the lowest talent-level since Majors 2. For 3 quarters, we looked like a JV team against Cincinnati and unfortunately, I have a feeling that comeback was more luck than us walking them down.
National and outside media are scratching their heads over this. Think it’s a horrible move for Pitt. Feel it’s same as with wanny, Dixon, etc, you have something good, but want better even if the likely hood of getting something better is slim and the chances of getting something worse is pretty high.
I say your feelings are wrong. One more quarter Pitt wins by 14.
That's because national media know little to nothing about any team not in the Big 10 or SEC. Mandel from the Athletic gave zero mentions to the Pitt comeback against Cinci, even though it was two P4's playing an OOC game
This seems to be the skinny from Joan Gabel’s perspective. No inside info :
*The Athletics department is in the red. Spending on projects like Victory Heights has gone way over budget.
*Once NIL was introduced, non-revenue projects like Victory Heights should have been put on hold.
*Most projects were already deeply committed financially and difficult to stop completely.
*To compound matters, Heather dragged her feet on NIL. Being that football & basketball drives the gravy train, this should have been top priority. In Gabel’s eyes this was not happening with the focus it deserved. Gabel was not convinced this would change.
*Heather has been linked to many jobs, also complicating the situation. Gabel questions her loyalty and commitment.
*Heather wants a multi-year contract. Gabel balks and wants to give her a shorter contract extension.
*Northwestern job opens up and Heather is a finalist. Heather doesn’t get the job.
*Contract negotiations continue between Heather and Gabel. Gabel is not willing to go more than a year or two.
*Gabel fires Heather
I don't care what people may say about Heather. She did a great job and is well liked by the alumni and her peers outside the university. She instilled, pride and vision to the department.
NIL was a game changer. It changed everything. The vision needed to change with it. The reaction to the change is probably what got Heather the axe.
*The Athletics department is in the red. Spending on projects like Victory Heights has gone way over budget.
*Once NIL was introduced, non-revenue projects like Victory Heights should have been put on hold.
*Most projects were already deeply committed financially and difficult to stop completely.
*To compound matters, Heather dragged her feet on NIL. Being that football & basketball drives the gravy train, this should have been top priority. In Gabel’s eyes this was not happening with the focus it deserved. Gabel was not convinced this would change.
*Heather has been linked to many jobs, also complicating the situation. Gabel questions her loyalty and commitment.
*Heather wants a multi-year contract. Gabel balks and wants to give her a shorter contract extension.
*Northwestern job opens up and Heather is a finalist. Heather doesn’t get the job.
*Contract negotiations continue between Heather and Gabel. Gabel is not willing to go more than a year or two.
*Gabel fires Heather
I don't care what people may say about Heather. She did a great job and is well liked by the alumni and her peers outside the university. She instilled, pride and vision to the department.
NIL was a game changer. It changed everything. The vision needed to change with it. The reaction to the change is probably what got Heather the axe.
It’s about direction from the very top in deciding on priorities and emphasis.
We’ll see where it goes.
Similar to Dixon, this is not a mutually exclusive thing. They both did great things at the university and will be ranked amongst the best at their respective positions. But for various reasons, both reached their expiration dates here, and the constant flirting with other jobs didn't help either of their cases. Time for both sides to move on.
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