WVU Unhappy With Direction Of Football Program, LINK!

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

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WVU Unhappy with Direction of Football Program

Posted on October 30, 2015 by thedudeofwv

According to sources close to the program WVU president E. Gordon Gee is unhappy with the direction of the Mountaineer program and will instruct Athletic Director Shane Lyons to terminate Dana Holgorsen’s contract at the end of the current season should the Mountaineers not win at least 8 games.

WVU 3-4 (0-4) has five games remaining including road contests with Kansas State and Kansas and home games with Texas Tech, Texas and Iowa State plus a possible bowl game.

Holgorsen’s buyout ($8 Million) will not be an issue. WVU will conduct a national search for a experienced and proven football coach should a change be necessary.

Although no candidates were mentioned by name Rich Rodriguez has supporters among WVU’s most generous boosters and on the Board of Governors. Rodriquez has privately expressed interest in returning to WVU but has not been contacted.

Another candidate who may be given serious consideration is former Ohio State coach and current Youngstown State University president Jim Tressel.

Tressel has a NCAA “Show Cause” order in effect until December 2016 meaning that he would be suspended for the first five games of his initial season. WVU would also be banned from a bowl game that same year.

The same source cited Gee’s close personal relationship with Tressel and the possibility of appearing before the NCAA infraction committee to have the penalties reduced or nullified as reasons why Tressel would be a viable candidate.

https://therealdudeofwv.wordpress.com/2015/10/30/wvu-unhappy-with-direction-of-football-program/

 

[Zeldas Greenhouse]

Doesn't suprise me that Holgy's seat is getting hot. They better find someone that can get those Texas burners to Morganhole.

 

[Panther_in_Kentucky]

The Dude Is Back!

WVU Unhappy with Direction of Football Program

Posted on October 30, 2015 by thedudeofwv

According to sources close to the program WVU president E. Gordon Gee is unhappy with the direction of the Mountaineer program and will instruct Athletic Director Shane Lyons to terminate Dana Holgorsen’s contract at the end of the current season should the Mountaineers not win at least 8 games.

WVU 3-4 (0-4) has five games remaining including road contests with Kansas State and Kansas and home games with Texas Tech, Texas and Iowa State plus a possible bowl game.

Holgorsen’s buyout ($8 Million) will not be an issue. WVU will conduct a national search for a experienced and proven football coach should a change be necessary.

Although no candidates were mentioned by name Rich Rodriguez has supporters among WVU’s most generous boosters and on the Board of Governors. Rodriquez has privately expressed interest in returning to WVU but has not been contacted.

Another candidate who may be given serious consideration is former Ohio State coach and current Youngstown State University president Jim Tressel.

Tressel has a NCAA “Show Cause” order in effect until December 2016 meaning that he would be suspended for the first five games of his initial season. WVU would also be banned from a bowl game that same year.

The same source cited Gee’s close personal relationship with Tressel and the possibility of appearing before the NCAA infraction committee to have the penalties reduced or nullified as reasons why Tressel would be a viable candidate.

https://therealdudeofwv.wordpress.com/2015/10/30/wvu-unhappy-with-direction-of-football-program/

WVU needs to hire Steve Pederson to hire their next coach. He's had so much experience. He would be perfect for them and I hear he's available.

 

[WNYPanther]

Doesn't suprise me that Holgy's seat is getting hot. They better find someone that can get those Texas burners to Morganhole.

Exactly. Without some of those quick Texas athletes they'll be stuck in the bottom half of the conference for the foreseeable future. If you can't score a ton in that league you're in big trouble & right now they don't have the horses to do that.

 

[Twisted Pittster]

Holgy was supposed to be a guy who knew Big12 football and could recruit Big12 areas. It hasn't worked out.

WVU is hamstrung competing in that conference. You need to score 60 points every week to win, and let's face it, the Texas burners aren't interested in Morgantown, WV.

 

[WNYPanther]

Why would they be? If you're a sought after Texas recruit why would you choose to play your home games in West Virginia? I lived in Austin for 10 years and no one down there is trying to relocate somewhere that the temp is regularly in the 40s or lower for half the season. With the rise of Baylor & TCU, the draw of UT & OU, and decent local programs from outside the Big XII like A&M and Houston (not to mention the SEC schools raiding the state) there are plenty of warm weather choices for these kids that are all better programs than WVU. The school is also so far away from the rest of the conference it might as well be on Mars. I really think WVU could be in a lot of trouble going forward.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

Doesn't suprise me that Holgy's seat is getting hot. They better find someone that can get those Texas burners to Morganhole.

The Dude says, Jim Tressel or CoachRod????

 

[Jeffburgh]

This is going to play out pretty much as most have noted.

They are at such a huge disadvantage in that league, even if they had to make the move to avoid getting left out in the game of musical chairs.

And Holgerson was always going to crash and burn. Really good offensive mind, but just too immature to be a hc at this level.

 

[pittmeister]

The Dude says, Jim Tressel or CoachRod????

He's the biggest propaganda blowhard on the internet

 

[Jeffburgh]

I think Tressell definitely would do well at a lot of places if he was interested in coming back to coach.

But, he is a REALLY bad fit for WVU. His style would be very difficult to be successful with in that league, with the wide open offenses, and he would not be able to recruit the kind of never ending big time talent to make it work well enough to compete in that in league at WVU.

 

[ncyajleel]

I'm happy with their direction!

 

[JHud986]

The mountainqueers can crash and burn for all I care. I want them out of Pittsburgh recruiting.

 

[ameoba defense]

The mountainqueers can crash and burn for all I care. I want them out of Pittsburgh recruiting.

They've never been a real factor in Pittsburgh recruiting. What they did was take advantage of the stupid people at Pitt in the late 80's, and 90's, and pull talent out of the Pittsburgh City League. Local folks have always sneered at the City League, but WVU recognized that there was lots of raw talent there, and they came and got some real gems that Pitt didn't bother to recruit. Other than that, they've been a minor player around here.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

This is going to play out pretty much as most have noted.They are at such a huge disadvantage in that league, even if they had to make the move to avoid getting left out in the game of musical chairs. And Holgerson was always going to crash and burn. Really good offensive mind, but just too immature to be a hc at this level.

Good post, Dana is not a complete Head Coach much like Harris, Graham, and Chryst, great OC's but if they played the WVU Schedule today, they would be in the same boat as Dana is right now!

I saw Shell and Henry Family Relatives in Moon this week, they both said Dana needs to go!

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

They've never been a real factor in Pittsburgh recruiting. What they did was take advantage of the stupid people at Pitt in the late 80's, and 90's, and pull talent out of the Pittsburgh City League. Local folks have always sneered at the City League, but WVU recognized that there was lots of raw talent there, and they came and got some real gems that Pitt didn't bother to recruit. Other than that, they've been a minor player around here.

Nehlen has some Great Teams, and Gowden left left for FSU, but they have not been the same since CoachRod left. Pitt has done WVU & Penn State in producing better NFL talent and All Pros. They have produced more but not better!

They need to be in the ACC or Big Ten! Or the Big-12 has to expand North and East and add UCincy, Memphis, Temple, UConn, Navy, and ECU? This would help them greatly

 

[Zeldas Greenhouse]

I can easily see RichRod coming back. He has been belly-aching about PAC 12 scheduling and with the year he is having, ( UW stomped the curb with Arizona last night. ) He doesn't look happy at all.

Tressel the exact opposite. Can't see the sweater vest amongst the drunks, hilljacks and overalls down there.

 

[Pittx9]

Just wait until Texas is good again. Then WVU will really be in trouble and have a hard time winning even 3 conference games a year.

 

[Pghfan]

Too bad none of the recruits is anybody were in on

 

[Panther Parrothead]

Good post, Dana is not a complete Head Coach much like Harris, Graham, and Chryst, great OC's but if they played the WVU Schedule today, they would be in the same boat as Dana is right now!

I saw Shell and Henry Family Relatives in Moon this week, they both said Dana needs to go!

WVU is doing the Shell & Henry families a favor: they're helping their families to be home for the holidays and not have to spend their money to attend a bowl game.

 

[pittmeister]

WVU fans will be dreaming about top coaches running to Morgantown to coach their beloved team. It's a whole new ballgame....The reality is, it's not a good job at all. It is the epitome of a stepping stone job.

1) They have no recruiting base.
2) They are misfits in the Big 12
3) There are no plans to raise their academic profile in order to be attractive to another P5 conference.
4) Their fan base has a bad rep...

 

[ricflair4LIFE]

If this report is accurate. He can start packing his bags now. He won't win the five remaining games. Especially Texas Tech.

 

[9nationalchampionships]

Got it....RR is interested but has not been contacted.

 

[pittmeister]

If this report is coming from the dude of WV, then don't believe any of it. He is the biggest liar on the Internet. He admitted to planting stories on the Internet about the demise of the ACC to create questions of instability with the conference. He's an idiot to the enth degree.

Having said that, I believe Holgerson is in trouble, but Rich Rod is not interested in WVU and the Big 12. I believe he would be much more interested in any ACC opening; VT, Virginia, etc...

 

[WNYPanther]

According to several reports on Twitter RichRod is VaTech's top candidate to replace Beamer.

 

[Zeldas Greenhouse]

According to several reports on Twitter RichRod is VaTech's top candidate to replace Beamer.

That will drive the hoopies nuts.

 

[thebadby2]

I think Tressell definitely would do well at a lot of places if he was interested in coming back to coach.

But, he is a REALLY bad fit for WVU. His style would be very difficult to be successful with in that league, with the wide open offenses, and he would not be able to recruit the kind of never ending big time talent to make it work well enough to compete in that in league at WVU.

Disagree. He would win and win big anywhere he goes as he has done everywhere he's been. He's an elite head coach and a very smart dude. On top of that, As we know, he'll do whatever he needs to do to win.

That said, I think he'd find the WVU job very unappealing on a number of levels beginning with the practical and logistical problems of being in a league full of southwestern schools. Not to mention that Morgantown is a shithole. He can and will do a lot better. I see him in the SEC eventually. As for RichRod, why the hell would he leave Zona for WVU? I can't see that happening.

Funny to see that Holgy has fallen flat there though. They'll be missing Don Nehlen and RichRod around there for a very long time.

 

[Dr. von Yinzer]

Uh, why are you treating this like a legitimate report? This is the message board equivalent of Star magazine.

Holgorsen may indeed be in trouble in Morgantown but this report means absolutely nothing because it is almost certainly completely made up.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

Disagree. He would win and win big anywhere he goes as he has done everywhere he's been. He's an elite head coach and a very smart dude. On top of that, As we know, he'll do whatever he needs to do to win.

That said, I think he'd find the WVU job very unappealing on a number of levels beginning with the practical and logistical problems of being in a league full of southwestern schools. Not to mention that Morgantown is a shithole. He can and will do a lot better. I see him in the SEC eventually. As for RichRod, why the hell would he leave Zona for WVU? I can't see that happening.

Funny to see that Holgy has fallen flat there though. They'll be missing Don Nehlen and RichRod around there for a very long time.

Agree! CoachRod will stay at WVU a long time too!

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

Uh, why are you treating this like a legitimate report? This is the message board equivalent of Star magazine.

Holgorsen may indeed be in trouble in Morgantown but this report means absolutely nothing because it is almost certainly completely made up.

Agree in part since it came from TheDude, but CoachRod is loved by the WVU Big Buck Boosters just like Jackie Sherrill was at Pitt!

 

[pittmeister]

Uh, why are you treating this like a legitimate report? This is the message board equivalent of Star magazine.

Holgorsen may indeed be in trouble in Morgantown but this report means absolutely nothing because it is almost certainly completely made up.

Yup. The Dude will float all kinds of fantasy candidates in the hopes it will create excitement. He's hoping that a legit candidate will step up and think that it's a great opportunity. Just to be a dick, he'll site his sources as telling him Narduzzi is interested, or at the very least, Conklin and the entire Pitt staff.

 

[OH Pete]

Given the current situation with the conference alignment - is it possible for WVU to consistently win? WVU is on an island and it ain't a tropical paradise in the eyes of most and has a very small natural recruiting base, especially if Pitt and PSU clean up Western PA. In addition, it is not as easy to recruit the type of players that Nehlen and DickRod made their livings on - i.e. the dumb undisciplined kid, as grades & behavior matter a little more these days than in the past. I think it is over for them unless another alignment shake up occurs. At this point, they still have enough to stay competitive for a few years, but the inflection point has already hit. They just don't know it yet.

 

[Pghfan]

WVU's biggest problem isn't Holgy, it's the Big 12.. Look at their conference schedule, they played 4 teams in a row, that are all ranked within the top 14, 2 teams are top 5 teams.. Even a very good team loses 3 of those.. They played Ok #14, Ok st #12, Baylor #2 and TCU #5.. That is murderous..

They fire holgy, they take 2 steps back to hopefully take 2 steps forward.. WVU, with this current team, would be very competitive in the ACC, or even the Big 10.. They dug their own grave with going to the Big 12, a football conference with multiple elite programs..

 

[MartyInLawrenceville]

Pghfan, I think they dug their grave by being delinquent academically, so that neither the ACC nor B1G would want them.

 

[Pghfan]

Pghfan, I think they dug their grave by being delinquent academically, so that neither the ACC nor B1G would want them.

I don't know the reasons or even if the ACC declined an invite, safe to say it's true... WVU had to go the BCS route and unfortunately the SEC didnt' want them. that would have been the golden ticket for them. Yes they would have gotten killed at first but damn if that isn't a selling point to any recruit, come play for us and play ball in the SEC.. I think from a competitive and geographical sense, the ACC is the right call but you need two to tango..

But back to my point, they lost 4 games in a row against 4 elite programs, 2 of which are in play for the playoffs this year.. Not many programs walk out of that 4 game schedule with any wins.. Even a very good program goes 1-3.. I think Holgy's success/failures will be determined against the remaining schedule. Iowa state is average, Kansas is well Kansas, not sure about K state and texas could be great or could suck, I honestly know nothing about Tech.. If they can win 4 out of the last 5, well that's a pretty respectable season.. Even 3 out of 5 gets em bowl eligible.. If they lose 3 or more out of the 5, against very average competition, well these Holgy rumors are justified...

Basically, to summarize, they beat the teams they should have and lost to the teams that they should have.. Sounds kind of familiar, doesn't it?

 

[Pghfan]

Pghfan, I think they dug their grave by being delinquent academically, so that neither the ACC nor B1G would want them.

I don't know the reasons or even if the ACC declined an invite, safe to say it's true... WVU had to go the BCS route and unfortunately the SEC didnt' want them. that would have been the golden ticket for them. Yes they would have gotten killed at first but damn if that isn't a selling point to any recruit, come play for us and play ball in the SEC.. I think from a competitive and geographical sense, the ACC is the right call but you need two to tango..

But back to my point, they lost 4 games in a row against 4 elite programs, 2 of which are in play for the playoffs this year.. Not many programs walk out of that 4 game schedule with any wins.. Even a very good program goes 1-3.. I think Holgy's success/failures will be determined against the remaining schedule. Iowa state is average, Kansas is well Kansas, not sure about K state and texas could be great or could suck, I honestly know nothing about Tech.. If they can win 4 out of the last 5, well that's a pretty respectable season.. Even 3 out of 5 gets em bowl eligible.. If they lose 3 or more out of the 5, against very average competition, well these Holgy rumors are justified...

Basically, to summarize, they beat the teams they should have and lost to the teams that they should have.. Sounds kind of familiar, doesn't it?

 

[pittmeister]

Pghfan, I think they dug their grave by being delinquent academically, so that neither the ACC nor B1G would want them.

BULLSEYE.

 

[Pghfan]

BULLSEYE.

OK but is that Holgy's fault? This post is about Holgorson and this program. They lost 4 games against very good, almost great, programs.. I think it's a bad mistake letting him go IF he can win 3 or 4 games out of the remaining 5.. I think very few programs go into that 4 game stretch and come out with a victory.. I think wvu could and will do much worse than him.. THat's all I am saying. WVU has a very high and unrealistic opinion of themselves if they think they are better than OU, Ok St, TCU or Baylor..

lose to Iowa state or Texas Tech, then complain about Holgy.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

Yup. The Dude will float all kinds of fantasy candidates in the hopes it will create excitement. He's hoping that a legit candidate will step up and think that it's a great opportunity. Just to be a dick, he'll site his sources as telling him Narduzzi is interested, or at the very least, Conklin and the entire Pitt staff.

Agree, he lost much of his Info when he kept saying the ACC was going to be raided, but the ACC took care of that problem, and now the Big-12 is always being talked about how they must grow or become an expanding target. In addition, WVU is learning they are far away from the Big-12 and now getting beat up badly, making it a less attractive destination than before, and why CoachRod is mentioned after he had to have a Police Escort when he and his family left and his Mother's House was Vandalized in Granstville.

The only connection I see for Jim Tressell wanting that job is President Gee, but he may not want to go that route again. I do think WVU is a fine University and has a Great Program to attract a Very Good coach, but that Big-12 Travel is a big problem and OU, Texas, OKSI, Baylor, KSU, and TCU can be brutal. Pitt will find out in part when they play OKSU the next 2 years? Meanwhile, The Dude is still trying to find a Clue!

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

Given the current situation with the conference alignment - is it possible for WVU to consistently win? WVU is on an island and it ain't a tropical paradise in the eyes of most and has a very small natural recruiting base, especially if Pitt and PSU clean up Western PA. In addition, it is not as easy to recruit the type of players that Nehlen and DickRod made their livings on - i.e. the dumb undisciplined kid, as grades & behavior matter a little more these days than in the past. I think it is over for them unless another alignment shake up occurs. At this point, they still have enough to stay competitive for a few years, but the inflection point has already hit. They just don't know it yet.

Good post and spot on!

 

[MartyInLawrenceville]

OK but is that Holgy's fault? This post is about Holgorson and this program. They lost 4 games against very good, almost great, programs.. I think it's a bad mistake letting him go IF he can win 3 or 4 games out of the remaining 5.. I think very few programs go into that 4 game stretch and come out with a victory.. I think wvu could and will do much worse than him.. THat's all I am saying. WVU has a very high and unrealistic opinion of themselves if they think they are better than OU, Ok St, TCU or Baylor..

lose to Iowa state or Texas Tech, then complain about Holgy.

Pghfan, no, it's not Holgersen's fault. Right now, I'm not sure any coach can come into WVU and be successful in the Big 12. I think that there are so many things going against WVU right now (location, recruiting deficiencies, location...), there's no way they can compete with the Baylor's, TCU's, TT's of the Big 12 at this point. Something's got to give in conferences, and I can see the whole thing blowing up and starting over in the next 5-10 years.