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Report: Nebraska wants to rejoin the Big 12, so can Pitt get into the Big 10??

Delaney never saw the benefits of Pitt being in the Big Ten. Paterno by 2000 was a vindictive asshat who hated Pitt for not giving him his trophy conference. But the ACC is much better for Pitt. The money is getting better and Pitt needs to get the BB program back to a national name. Barnes expertise is BB and he understands that Stallings will be far better off without the Vandy restrictions of academic requirements.
 
"PITTLAW, post: 1610275, member: 338"]You sir, are insane. Pitt is barely competing financially in the ACC. Pitt cannot compete with the behemoth stadiums and alumni bases of the B1G. Our enemy in State College is struggling--and they actually have the stadium and alumni base that compares well to the B1G profile.
You are Correct Sir!:):rolleyes::cool:

The ACC is the perfect P5 conference for the Panthers.
You are Correct Sir Again!:p:rolleyes::D

As for Nebraska...lol...those corn-hole fans are getting what they deserve.
Yes, they gave us Steve Pederson and he ran back to them, and now they hate him too. Then NU Alumnus Alvarez gave us Chryst that ran back to him too. Tom Osborne used a Walk-On Program on Non-Qualifiers to get around NCAA 85 Scholarship Limits, but since Pederson hired and fired and Nebraska left the Big-12 for the Big Ten they have not been the same, just like what happen to Penn State. :(:oops::eek:

The grass is not always greener. Hail to Pitt!
The ACC is Perfect for Pitt Is It! :):rolleyes::cool:

How do we know?????o_O:confused::rolleyes:

WVU & PSU Fans wish they were in the ACC!:mad::(:eek:
 
The odds of getting struck by lightning 1,000 times are better than Nebraska going to the Big 12, and WV and Cincy joining the Big 10.

The odds of getting struck by lightning 100 times are better than Nebraska going to the Big 12 and Pitt going to the Big 10.
 
This. And even now, Pitt would not warrant a first look from the BIG if they did (and no I don't think for a second Nebraska is going anywhere) lose a member. They already have carriage in the state of PA. It brings zero dollars to them.

Pitt spent the entire decade of the 1940s trying to get into the Big Ten. As part of its attempt to "purify" itself, Pitt placed itself under the Big Ten's purity rules (that most B10 schools openly flaunted) and actually put its football program under the oversight of the conference. It adopted an almost entirely B10 schedule, and got completely destroyed on the field in doing so because it had eliminated recruiting and scholarships. It lost getting an invite by a hair to Michigan State when the B10 finally decided to vote on replacing Chicago. This was, apparently, in part because Ohio State viewed Pitt as a threat.

The Big Ten was looking at Pitt again in the late 80s when Penn State got the invite. It was considering a package deal to take Pitt with PSU. Obviously that didn't get very far. So Pitt has been seriously considered by the Big Ten in the past, and no more so than the late 40s. I don't think it was that serious in the 80s and 2000s.
 
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And the other part of the 1940s story is that Michigan tried like hell (surprise surprise) to keep MSU out. I guess I had forgotten that Pitt was the competition. Apparently Purdue (land grant sister school ) and OSU pushed for MSU.

I think Nebraska should go back to the plains (won't happen). Not that I dislike them but I think they fit better out there. I drive across Nebraska a lot. Very different than Michigan or Ohio. More crop dusters than assembly lines. They are going to need Texas for recruiting. Only 2M people in the whole state. Iowa is OK because they are only 3 hours from Chicago but Lincoln is way out there. In the long run, I can't see them staying competitive without a rock star coach..
 
Husker fan here. Nebraska has no desire to go back to the Big 12 and while the fit in the BIG might not be perfect it's definitely starting to feel more like home. The slippers are starting to wear to the point of finally feeling comfy.

That said I'd be all for adding Pitt to the BIG and sending the School of Child Rapists known as PSU out on their collective ass and into the street only to be driven over by a truck. Those folks have no shame.
 
Laughable......Good luck with thinking that will happen. Like someone above stated. NU would leave the most stable conference in sports with one of if not the highest payouts to go back to the Texas and others conference? yea right.

And for another poster who said the Brand died with TO......At least we have our past and even our downturn beats Pitts best years. Jealously I think.....
 
Laughable......Good luck with thinking that will happen. Like someone above stated. NU would leave the most stable conference in sports with one of if not the highest payouts to go back to the Texas and others conference? yea right.

And for another poster who said the Brand died with TO......At least we have our past and even our downturn beats Pitts best years. Jealously I think.....
Pitt has it past too, and adds up just fine, NU great school but you did produce Pederson do you want him back?

An Elite Coach can turn the NU Program on a dime and someday will, but OSU & UM will match it later. The Big Ten is Ohio State and Michigan and then the 12 rests that come and go, and they have tamed NU & PSU!
 
Laughable......Good luck with thinking that will happen. Like someone above stated. NU would leave the most stable conference in sports with one of if not the highest payouts to go back to the Texas and others conference? yea right.

And for another poster who said the Brand died with TO......At least we have our past and even our downturn beats Pitts best years. Jealously I think.....

I think not. Our best years saw 8 national championships in 25 seasons. Our second best epoch saw a national title, a .798 winning percentage, and an average final Coaches' poll rank of 6.6 over 10 seasons. Pitt's all-time record against the Huskers: 15-6-3.

That said, no one with a brain thinks UNL is leaving the B10. Nor is Pitt leaving the ACC.
 
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Laughable......Good luck with thinking that will happen. Like someone above stated. NU would leave the most stable conference in sports with one of if not the highest payouts to go back to the Texas and others conference? yea right.

And for another poster who said the Brand died with TO......At least we have our past and even our downturn beats Pitts best years. Jealously I think.....
Since Osborn retired, the only national relevance NU has had has been the reality show show with Tommy Lee in your marching band.
 
I concur, but they have struggled doing it and not the same in the Big-12 until the Big-12 reduced their Non-Qualifiers to 4, from Unlimited, and why they left for Big Ten "Unlimited Non-Qualifiers" and still struggling to be in the Top 25 let alone The Top Ten or Top NCS Playoff Four!

Tom Osborne's Walk-On Program County Scholarships was a great way to get around 85 Scholarship Limits.Players could practice and build themselves up for 4 years and play in their 5th year, all paid for by Nebraska One Per County Scholarships and Boosters covered the expenses. When Big-12 ended "Unlimited Qualifiers" the Big Ten told him they are "Unlimited in the Big Ten" it explains why Penn State chose the Big Ten too? They once took a player that flunked high school 6 times but he still graduated from PSU?

LINK:
http://www.bleachercoaches.com/college-professional-sports/topic13669.html

They struggled in the Big 12 also after Osborne left. They lost 4+ games in each of their last 7 seasons in the Big 12. Point being, it's no more difficult for Nebraska in the Big Ten West than in the Big 12 North. They are struggling either way, regardless of which conference they are in.
 
They struggled in the Big 12 also after Osborne left. They lost 4+ games in each of their last 7 seasons in the Big 12. Point being, it's no more difficult for Nebraska in the Big Ten West than in the Big 12 North. They are struggling either way, regardless of which conference they are in.
I concur but another question for you and won't judge it just want to have your good insights.

If Saban, Meyers, Fisher, Petrino, and Swinney, went to be Head Coach there, could they turn it around to make NU a Top 5 & 10 Elite Team in most years?

Or if Patterson, Leach, Shaw, Stoops, Briles, Dantonio, Fitzgerald, Fuente, Richt went there could they improve NU making it a Top Ten Team every few years?
 
There are other sites reporting it as well. Yahoo was too. I just linked 1 of the articles.

It doesn't matter how many times it is linked or repeated. It isn't true. Someone in the Big 12 is leaking false rumors to try and get Oklahoma from jumping ship. There is 0.00000000000000000000% chance NU goes back to the Big 12. Big 10 is better culturally, academically, athletically, financially........ Nebraska just completed their six year buy in to the Big Ten Network, and are now fully vested, and poised to earn tens of millions more a year in TV revenue alone. Plus, the research consortium and Big 10 stature have significantly raised NU's academic standing. There's nothing to be gained by going back to the Big 12, even if it wasn't a dead man walking. When you add the deafening death rattle of the Texas Ten League, it's even more ridiculous.

It's far more likely that the Big 10 adds two of Oklahoma, Kansas, and Texas. Kansas State and Iowa State are the most likely rumor spreaders, followed by Texas. The former because if the Big 12 collapses, they become mid majors, and the latter to try and keep Oklahoma from jumping ship.
 
Pls trust me when I say, there's no f'g way Nebraska would touch that smoldering pile of bevo crap (aka Big 12) with a hundred yard pole.
 
Next article will be that they are looking to rehire Steve Pedersen.

This is more likely than Nebraska rejoining the Big 12. It's also more likely that everyone on this board will win the Powerball in the next year. So we've got that going for us.

If the Big Ten added a member, Pitt would not be in its Top 20 list of replacements. The entire ACC minus Wake Forest would be on that list plus Kentucky, Missouri, Kansas, Oklahoma, a bunch of Texas schools, etc.

This is correct. Pitt has a chance if PSU ever gets booted for the Sandusky stuff, but otherwise, Pitt adds no additional value to the Big 10 (and PSU isn't getting booted). ND, Texas, Oklahoma, North Carolina, Georgia Tech, Kansas, Missouri, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Boston College, Duke (only with UNC), Texas A&M, Vanderbilt, Florida, Florida State, Miami, Syracuse, Clemson, Colorado.........those are probably the top candidates for expansion in order, and no one else is realistically in the running.
 
Plus, no thanks. I personally really enjoy the ACC and the teams/destinations, top to bottom, are in my opinion preferable to most of those Big 10 outposts/corn fields/cow pastures.
Wow...Chicago, Madison, Columbus, NYC somewhat, DC....think you're fixated on our in-state friends to the east.
 
I concur but another question for you and won't judge it just want to have your good insights.

If Saban, Meyers, Fisher, Petrino, and Swinney, went to be Head Coach there, could they turn it around to make NU a Top 5 & 10 Elite Team in most years?

Or if Patterson, Leach, Shaw, Stoops, Briles, Dantonio, Fitzgerald, Fuente, Richt went there could they improve NU making it a Top Ten Team every few years?

Saban and Meyer could. Some of the others could get them to Top 20 status.
 
with all the discussion of Houston.....and why they would not be a logical addition to the Big 12.....why would any Pitt fan....wanting to go to the Big ten.....think it would be any different? They have PA...they dont need us

its that simple.
 
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Wow...Chicago, Madison, Columbus, NYC somewhat, DC....think you're fixated on our in-state friends to the east.
Maryland and Rutgers are near those cities. They aren't in those cities. Columbus is pretty awful. Chicago is great, but the game is vs Northwestern. Madison is a great college town. However, the biggest boon for the ACC over B1G? All the ACC cities (save Syracuse and BC) are much, much better to visit in October and November because of weather, alone. Madison is awesome and weather fine in September, but get into October and you could have a pretty miserable trip. November is a no go. Same with the Michigan schools, even though Ann Arbor is a great college town and a team to check off the list.

Rutgers talks up "NYC" but you are then 2 hours from Rutgers. Maryland is probably an hour from DC.
 
Their brand would benefit and grow if they would actually start winning at a higher rate. If they continue to win at their current level their brand isn't going to grow no matter what conference they are in.

Not sure I am following you...they are 5-0 and rated 12th in the country. Nebraska will never return to the Big 12. This is a ridiculous story. They are quite happy in the Big 10.
 
Bill Snyder misses rivalry, questions Nebraska's Big Ten happiness
Snyder said he “most certainly” missed K-State’s rivalry with the Cornhuskers, saying that the two schools, separated by less than 150 miles, “should be” meeting on the field.


“When push comes to shove," Snyder said of Nebraska, "I don’t want to speak for anybody, but I’m not so sure they’re pleased with the decision they made.”

The Huskers have won 25 of 40 Big Ten games in five seasons, but just six of 15 games against league heavyweights Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan State and Wisconsin. Old rivalries are gone and new ones have been slow to ignite.

This year, Nebraska’s home league schedule includes Illinois, Purdue, Minnesota and Maryland. Not the most attractive slate.

But is Snyder right?


It’s highly doubtful.

By nearly all accounts out of Lincoln, Nebraska enjoys the prestige, athletically and academically, and stability that the Big Ten affords -- not to mention the financial benefits and a decent cultural fit. The Huskers can likely handle an uninspiring schedule if its conference assures a position of power on the future college football landscape.

The Big 12 can’t make that guarantee as it enters another phase of expansion.

LINK:
http://www.espn.com/blog/big12/post...a-rivarly-questions-huskers-big-ten-happiness

This article has it right...it was Snyder's opinion about whether Nebraska was happy. Nebraska had the guts to do what others would not, get away from Texas and the stranglehold they have on the conference. Texas is the root cause of the Big 12 collapse. Colorado and Missouri followed suit. The Big 10 wanted Nebraska badly. It is a great fit for Nebraska.
 
Maryland and Rutgers are near those cities. They aren't in those cities. Columbus is pretty awful. Chicago is great, but the game is vs Northwestern. Madison is a great college town. However, the biggest boon for the ACC over B1G? All the ACC cities (save Syracuse and BC) are much, much better to visit in October and November because of weather, alone. Madison is awesome and weather fine in September, but get into October and you could have a pretty miserable trip. November is a no go. Same with the Michigan schools, even though Ann Arbor is a great college town and a team to check off the list.

Rutgers talks up "NYC" but you are then 2 hours from Rutgers. Maryland is probably an hour from DC.

College Park is on the DC metro Green line. It's essentially in a DC suburb. It's about 30-40 mins from the national mall by car depending on traffic. It's not in the city like Georgetown or GW, but its essentially right outside similar to how Villanova sits outside Philly...not that CP is as nice as the Main Line neighborhood.

Rutgers... it is over and hour from Manhattan by train or car. Not really in the city nor does it feel like it is in the city. If you are flying in for the weekend to see the game from Iowa, however, yeah, you'd probably spend most of your time in NYC because nothing is going on in New Brunswick. It's sort of like Bloomington and West Lafayette being over an hour from Indianapolis. Does that count?
 
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There are other sites reporting it as well. Yahoo was too. I just linked 1 of the articles.
Yahoo reports very little, they link other people's crap articles. That being said, I wouldn't mind B10, that would feel like a better match IMO.
 
College Park is on the DC metro Green line. It's essentially in a DC suburb. It's about 30-40 mins from the national mall by car depending on traffic. It's not in the city like Georgetown or GW, but its essentially right outside similar to how Villanova sits outside Philly...not that CP is as nice as the Main Line neighborhood.

Thank you. People who are not familiar with DC, have no idea where UM is located. They think it's a Baltimore school, when it's very much a DC school. UM is about 4 miles from Eastern Ave., which is the DC city line.
 
College Park is on the DC metro Green line. It's essentially in a DC suburb. It's about 30-40 mins from the national mall by car depending on traffic. It's not in the city like Georgetown or GW, but its essentially right outside similar to how Villanova sits outside Philly...not that CP is as nice as the Main Line neighborhood.

Rutgers... it is over and hour from Manhattan by train or car. Not really in the city nor does it feel like it is in the city. If you are flying in for the weekend to see the game from Iowa, however, yeah, you'd probably spend most of your time in NYC because nothing is going on in New Brunswick. It's sort of like Bloomington and West Lafayette being over an hour from Indianapolis. Does that count?
No.
 
Thank you. People who are not familiar with DC, have no idea where UM is located. They think it's a Baltimore school, when it's very much a DC school. UM is about 4 miles from Eastern Ave., which is the DC city line.
I know exactly where it is and it is not in DC and certainly not in the DC that is a destination draw as is being discussed. Getting from a downtown DC hotel/attractions to gameday tailgating would take you at least an hour unless you drive with a police escort.
 
ACC football 2013-2016 >> B1G football 2013-2016

especially this year.
 
College Park is on the DC metro Green line. It's essentially in a DC suburb. It's about 30-40 mins from the national mall by car depending on traffic. It's not in the city like Georgetown or GW, but its essentially right outside similar to how Villanova sits outside Philly...not that CP is as nice as the Main Line neighborhood.

Rutgers... it is over and hour from Manhattan by train or car. Not really in the city nor does it feel like it is in the city. If you are flying in for the weekend to see the game from Iowa, however, yeah, you'd probably spend most of your time in NYC because nothing is going on in New Brunswick. It's sort of like Bloomington and West Lafayette being over an hour from Indianapolis. Does that count?

The thing that helps Rutgers is that there are no New Jersey TV stations or cable systems. You either get the Philly stuff, NYC stuff or both depending where you're at in Jersey. So, because there are a lot of NJ residents watching those newscasts and subscribing to those cable companies, they have to pay attention to NJ citizens and Rutgers. So its not quite like Rutgers delivers the NYC market.....more like the lack of NJ cable and media forces NYC to report on it.......similar to WVU in Pittsburgh.
 
Well yeah.........hey, they made their bed and now are lying in it. Fans can feel and say all they want, they don't make the decisions. Nebraska ain't going anywhere.

The fans could make the decision, but it would probably take at least 30% of the fan base boycotting going to games, watching them on tv, and buying merchandise. That would force the administration to give in. The odds of 10% of the fan base doing that is 1%. Nebraska is staying in the Big 10.
 
Right, but if they have the Internet or cable...or even friends, they would be well aware of the fact that the Big 12 that they knew (and loathed - which is why they left in the first place) is demonstrably more dysfunctional and worse off than it was when they left a few years back.

In other words, they couldn't go home again even if they wanted to because there is no "there" anymore.

The Longhorn Network is still the biggest wedge issue for the conference and it doesn't matter how much bitching and moaning everyone else (disingenuously) does about it, Texas isn't giving it up without a king's ransom in return.

Who in their right mind (with options) would want anything to do with that flaming pile of schitt?

If anything, the Nebraska fans should be on their knees each night thanking 9-lb, 8-oz baby Jesus that they were able to get out of Saigon when they did.

They are a lot like us in that regard and though we still don't have any real fierce ACC rivals and we too feel a little culturally askew - which is reinforced every time I see a commercial for Popeye's Chicken or the Ford Dealers of Greater Mecklenburg County, or whatever the hell it is - it still beats the living schitt out of the alternative; just ask Cincinnati, Connecticut and South Florida.


very well written.
to sum it up:
Nebraska leaves the BIGwhen Pigs Fly!
 
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