he also crushed Liz Taylor in her prime.. that is impressive..
sure you are not thinking of old fat Flintstones Liz (Pearl Slaghoople, Fred's bitchy mother-in-law) and not the hot Liz in her prime? I mean not fair to compare Kiner pictured here with drunk old Kiner from Kiner's corner.
He had fat old white coaches who wanted him to be a fat old white QB. To be fair some of it was his own complaining he didn't want to be a "slash". That was balderdash. That's what he was effective doing. I doubt the coaches gave a crap about what he wanted though, so i blame them.
fat old white QB....aka the old fat guys that win super bowls..He had
He had fat old white coaches who wanted him to be a fat old white QB. To be fair some of it was his own complaining he didn't want to be a "slash". That was balderdash. That's what he was effective doing. I doubt the coaches gave a crap about what he wanted though, so i blame them.
As far as his interest, I understand he (or his agent) realized that fat old white starting QB made more money (plus perhaps fewer injuries). But he actually could have been far more marketable (in fact, he originally was) continuing as a kick ass Slash than the mediocre drop back QB they turned him into.
I recall the broken play (against the Ravens i believe?) when he took it to the house from like 80 yards out on an amazing run, and the coaches were ticked at him. Head shake...
No wonder college football was more fun to watch then. The NFL is a bit more enlightened now, but even now we still hear old white pundits wheezing, "don't let Newton/RG3/Wilson run!!!". I guess that's cuz the owners spend so much money on em. But i don't care about them, i only care about M.E. ... My Enjoyment.
so they do not want to win, they just want to perpetuate the fat old white guys club?
I recall the broken play (against the Ravens i believe?) when he took it to the house from like 80 yards out on an amazing run, and the coaches were ticked at him. Head shake...
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Hey we can debate our personal style preferences of what we like to watch all day... some like Slash, some like Kent Graham. But the point is Kordell Stewart was only "overrated" as a drop back passer... because nobody should have rated him highly for that role in the first place! He had far more talent that was woefully wasted.
If your mother was an athlete, I'd go with her. Not as an athlete, but as a mother.
He had
He had fat old white coaches who wanted him to be a fat old white QB. To be fair some of it was his own complaining he didn't want to be a "slash". That was balderdash. That's what he was effective doing. I doubt the coaches gave a crap about what he wanted though, so i blame them.
As far as his interest, I understand he (or his agent) realized that fat old white starting QB made more money (plus perhaps fewer injuries). But he actually could have been far more marketable (in fact, he originally was) continuing as a kick ass Slash than the mediocre drop back QB they turned him into.
I recall the broken play (against the Ravens i believe?) when he took it to the house from like 80 yards out on an amazing run, and the coaches were ticked at him. Head shake...
No wonder college football was more fun to watch then. The NFL is a bit more enlightened now, but even now we still hear old white pundits wheezing, "don't let Newton/RG3/Wilson run!!!". I guess that's cuz the owners spend so much money on em. But i don't care about them, i only care about M.E. ... My Enjoyment.
It was because he batted 280 and because for part of that time he had left field fence brought in.
uh, since he is in fact in the hall of fame, it is. Stargell batted 282. ....335 down the line (shortened length) is longer than pretty much every ballpark today. The dude could play. Definitely not overrated.
Well, that's what I say as well (about Kordell). I guess others will say he made to to the afc championship game as a drop back QB. But I'll counter that he lost.
I don't think he would get in today. But sure..uh...yeah it is a HOF BA.
You never heard Bubby Brister being called our next Terry Bradshaw lol.......ok!
Baldwin pulled some dumb stuff here but I wouldn't call him a bust ... at Pitt anyway. In NFL, oh yeah. But i'll recall his leaping catch against ND fondly.
Bubby's story was similar to Bradshaw, so yinzers desperately wanted him to be as great and let them relive the glory days. But other than being from the same general area there wasn't much else to justify that faith.
Gary Roberts might actually take the cake. I said this while he was still a penguin. He was somewhat of a cult hero in Pittsburgh. So well he was on the 07-08 team that made the cup finals and lost to Detroit, he dressed in all of 11 playoff games that year and had 4 points. He was hardly the contributor people made him out to be. No offense to Gary, he was a damn good hockey player. But his time in Pittsburgh was pretty ho-hum.
uh, yeah playing 9 or 10 more years than Kiner will do that.. Kiner had a bad back from banging hot chicks like liz taylor and did not put in the pad the overall stats years..Pretty much averaged 10 more homer runs a year than Stargell . Averaged more rbis also. Like I said, not sure how a guy that averages 33 hrs a year for his career (even shortened career) is overrated.. And since the category was "Pittsburgh" athlete, the numbers for his time just there were off the charts great.
The thing about Baldwin that was kind of maddening here was that he never developed his footwork on the sidelines.
