Example of a Pitt fan that has been beaten down and suffers from small mans syndrome.
Aliquippa, Clairton, and Woodland Hills
- Thread starter Sean Miller Fan
- Start date
Jimmy Franklin recruits for stars and rankings. HCPN recruits savages and players with intangibles you cant teach, like grit and hard work (Jimmy would know nothing about that at PED state).
Besides 3 games we let get away from us that we dominated in all areas besides the scoreboard (PSU, GT & NCST) and we should be sitting pretty at 7-2 and controlling our destiny in THE toughest division in the power 5.
That being said, I think we steal 2 of our last 3 games and end up going 7-5 and a trip to a decent bowl where I know for a fact we'll win because there is NO WAY HCPN is letting his panthers lose another bowl game. Then on top of that drives us into a good position to close out the 2018 recruiting class (where I see HCPN poaching away several commits from other programs: PED State, Michigan, Maryland).
Last but not least: HAIL 2 PUTT!!!
Besides 3 games we let get away from us that we dominated in all areas besides the scoreboard (PSU, GT & NCST) and we should be sitting pretty at 7-2 and controlling our destiny in THE toughest division in the power 5.
That being said, I think we steal 2 of our last 3 games and end up going 7-5 and a trip to a decent bowl where I know for a fact we'll win because there is NO WAY HCPN is letting his panthers lose another bowl game. Then on top of that drives us into a good position to close out the 2018 recruiting class (where I see HCPN poaching away several commits from other programs: PED State, Michigan, Maryland).
Last but not least: HAIL 2 PUTT!!!
If you have watched college football this year, then you’d realize there’s a lot of parity. Outside of Bama - who are the Titans?
If you have watched enough of college football. You would realize VT and Miami are hardly invincible.
To take it a step further. I wouldn’t be shocked if we have a chance to beat both teams this year. Even though we are suffering a down year.
If we get some bounces to go our way. VT is slightly better than Miami. Regardless if Miami is undefeated to this point. Neither team as a explosive offense.
We were going to get Keith Hamilton's son who had a great career at RU before being injured.
You did not answer the question. Outside of Bama - Who are the titans in college football?
Ummm....no it isn't. SEC East, BIG West, and the PAC South are far worse than the Coastal. Not to mention, there is a crossover each year with the Atlantic, which means L'Ville, FSU (down this year), and Clemson will also be on your schedule (and count towards your conference record) 3 out of every 7 years.
Narduzzi has caught some bad breaks with injuries and such. He is one of the best coaches in the country playing in the toughest P5 conference in the country. We have (or
Should have) won for all intents and purposes every game except Oklahoma State. He will get a few 4 star players before it's done with and we will go to a bowl game. There are very few coaches I would want over CPN.
Should have) won for all intents and purposes every game except Oklahoma State. He will get a few 4 star players before it's done with and we will go to a bowl game. There are very few coaches I would want over CPN.
No I’m a realist. Fans like you are how we end up pushing out one of maybe the top 3 all time successful coaches at pitt.
Exactly - this is the type of attitude from fans that opened the door for Dixon’s exit. You’d think people would learn from past mistakes.
What planet are you living on? I would in no way want to get rid of Duzz and think he is the right man for the job but he hasn't shown anything to suggest such a statement.
He has done a solid job at Wisconsin. He is definitely more intelligent than Narduzzi and I believe would have won at least 8 games the last couple years with the offense he built had he stayed at Pitt. I think Duzz is a significantly more enthusiastic recruiter and until lately had done a better job selling the program. I would have Chryst in the top 20 coaches with Duzz just outside of that probably.
Chryst is in the mix of hiring a coordinator and expecting them to learn how to coach on the job. Pitt was his training ground for Wisconsin. Maybe Narduzzi is doing the same for MSU or whatever but like most here I am rooting for him here. I'm fine with giving those sort of guys some time to figure it out (I think these two will -- but others like Fazio and Hackett never did make that transition to effective head coach from effective coordinator) because I realize we're not a blue blood anymore; but not all fans are going to be that patient. While they're learning how to run a program, it gives us time to evaluate what progress they do or don't make over several years at least.
Steve P really wanted someone with head coaching experience but also not to spend a ton of money, the worst combination because essentially you're going in cheap there for a lower level hire, which is at least part of why Haywood was such a bad choice even if we couldn't have predicted his behavior.
Steve P really wanted someone with head coaching experience but also not to spend a ton of money, the worst combination because essentially you're going in cheap there for a lower level hire, which is at least part of why Haywood was such a bad choice even if we couldn't have predicted his behavior.
Do u think we would have won 8 games with Voytik? Chryst lost some WTF games like Akron at home while Narduzzi has beaten the teams we were favored to beat.
He did not spend a lot of money because he was forced to go cheap. Pitt is forced to go cheap because our donations are bottom of the barrel. Check out the Panther Club Booklet that was just sent out.
The worst team Narduzzi lost to is Northwestern in the bowl game last year when half the offense was knocked out of the game. None of his loses were to teams that finished under .500. Maybe Syracuse this year, and they are probably second.
PC lost to 3 (5-7) schools of which 2 were G5, 1 (6-7) school. and YSU.
Duzz loses include -
2017
@ Penn State (7-1) L 14 33
Oklahoma State (7-1) L 21 59
@ Georgia Tech (4-3) L 17 35
@ Syracuse (4-4) L 24 27
North Carolina State (6-2) L 17 35
2016
@ Oklahoma State (10-3) L 38 45
@ North Carolina (8-5) L 36 37
Virginia Tech (10-4) L 36 39
@ Miami (Florida) (9-4) L 28 51
Northwestern (7-6) L 24 31
2015
@ Iowa (12-2) L 24 27
North Carolina (11-3) L 19 26
Notre Dame (10-3) L 30 42
Miami (Florida) (8-5) L 24 29
@Navy (11-2) L 28 44
Combined record of teams is (124 - 48). That's a 72% winning percentage or an average of a 9.5 win team.
Last edited:
I think you and I tend to agree on most things. I’m just not 100% sold on narduzzi.
If they finish strong this year, and the defense keeps improving I’ll be really close to all in. If they finish 6-6 I would be thrilled.
Then why do guys follow Pitt if you think the best they can do is win 8 games tops? Actually, it’s fans like you who hurt Pitt’s perception.
What’s sad is you folks really believe the garbage you throw out there.
Once again you flat out lie. The fans didn’t Let Dixon go. The AD did!
There were a few load mouths on here. However, if you believe they were the cause of Dixon leaving you need ur head checked.
They only thing level headed fans said about Dixon was his lack of recruiting his last 3 years.
Wow........do you even read what you post lol!
You said the best Pitt can do is win 8 games tops. Then in this post you say your not sold on Narduzzi. Dude, Narduzzi already won 8 games back to back years lol. So by your expectations Narduzzi should be Vince Lombardi. Instead your not sold on him......ok?
You folks on the free board are funny
Last edited:
Because they are my team? I’m not some band wagon jumper who just follows bama.
I also am not a moron that thinks pitt should be contending for ACC and National championships.
I said when it looked like pitt may finish 2-10 narduzzi should get one more year.
I’m still not convinced he is the right guy. I still think he lived off the previous offensive recruits the first two years. We will see going forward.
Ok
Go on the national board. Ask what P5 division is the easiest year in and year out. You won’t like the answer.
Ok.........lol. I am not talking about the ACC. Talking strictly the Coastal
Go on the national board. Ask what P5 division is the easiest year in and year out. You won’t like the answer.
No you said the most Pitt fans can expect is 8 wins tops. Then you say Your not sold on Narduzzi.
How can that be when he already won 8 games back to back. He’s already met your expectations.
If you can’t see the hypocrisy in what your postings I can’t help you.
Oy. Do you understand what an AVERAGE is?
Pitt is an 8-5 type program with a good coach. I have said that about 1000 times on here. What record do you expect Pitt to have on a consistent basis? What should their average record be?
You did not answer this question. Outside of Bama - Who are the titans in college football?
Last edited:
He never said Pitt would win 8 games top. Just that they'd average that, which is realist. Some years will be below, some above.
If you don’t think Ohio St, FSU, Clemson, USC, Alabama, Michigan are not blue bloods. This conversation has come to a conclusion. It’s obvious you only follow Pitt if you don’t think those schools I mentioned are not blue bloods. Which means titans of college football
I never said who was or wasn’t, but it is interesting that you feel 2 of them come from the ACC, but yet bash VT and Miami. Miami was the most dominant program over a 25 year period and they are currently undefeated. VT won a lot of games under Beamer, and Fuente is a very good coach.
Right, and with the exception of about 5-10 programs, the teams that happens to are hurt badly.
Pitt isn't a strong and established enough program to withstand that kind of unforeseen attrition from a recruiting class. Few programs are.
I don't understand this portion of your response (in red) due to the double negative. Are you saying you believe those school are or are not blue bloods?
why would sean gilbert's college decision in the mid 80's effect where a kid from Aliquippa decides to go in 2017? I get that everyone in Aliquippa is related and that family tree really doesn't branch out but still, that's about 10 Head coaches ago from over 30 years in the past..
That's like saying all D1 prospects from Bethel Park should go to Pitt because Craig Gob went there in 1987.. yeah, I know, not one of you get this reference, im ok with this.
That's like saying all D1 prospects from Bethel Park should go to Pitt because Craig Gob went there in 1987.. yeah, I know, not one of you get this reference, im ok with this.
Talk strictly coastal then; which was considered the 3rd strongest division last year based on actual performance.
https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2017/2/9/14560656/conferences-rankings-sec-east-west-2016
