You apparently sit at the right hand of God as the Judge of Man.
Check beneath your feet. Notice that there is no pedestal.
Barnes coming clean
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You apparently sit at the right hand of God as the Judge of Man.
Check beneath your feet. Notice that there is no pedestal.
There is something toxic up there , look at the results , speak for themselves and it needs to be taken out and disposed of ASAP
A perch from a pedestal is not required to identify stupidity.
I'm actually a decent human being. Simple as that.
Great post!
Get this guy to the PITT athletic office asap he's hired!
If he knows someone / anyone with the same qualifications especially the 10k relatives willing to attend PITT that person can be OC for PITT.
Let me do some quick math so this will be a 20k increase in PITT football attendance.
Don't worry if the OC doesn't know much about football we'll have someone with seats in the North Endzone send in plays. Most up there have been sober for atleast a week and don't have to get back to rehab until after the game??????????????????
So since we are talking Year 2 then these oh too tragic losses were just too much for the spoiled Pgh fan base to possibly get over? That's another excuse.... weak. 8-4 regular season with a win over Clemson is a step up from year one 8-4 & of that there is simply no question for anyone who knows anything about college football... period. Throw in a win over PSU and it was a damn nice season for year 2. Pgh is absurd to bail after those losses... and again they either don't pay any attention to anything outside of the tristate area ( like not getting it that wins over Duke or GT mean waaayyy more than an OOC game would against say WVU) when it comes to college football or they are entirely brainwashed by pro sports championship pursuits... or both which is probably the sad truth laid bare.
He has the right to leave a job for another job it's done every day this pitt paranoia has got to stop he didn't like here no one on this board has the right to question his decision or his daughter health or non health issue. Wish the man well and move along a new AD will be brought in and he/she will do something to tick off the fans shortly after they start. Barnes didn't embarrass Pitt in any way if you want to read about an AD embarrassing his school read about the former AD and the mess he left behind.
Yep. Barnes and Graham very similar. I mean one worked hand in hand with Pitt during over a period of months to find the right situation for a tough time for his family. He is staying on the job and assisting with the transition as well and is leaving on great terms.
The other never informed his players, would not answer the door when his boss wanted to talk to him and left in extremely bad terms.
Yep. Identical.
The other never informed his players, would not answer the door when his boss wanted to talk to him and left in extremely bad terms.
Yep. Identical.
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which is why you don't hire someone from the west coast who prioritizes family over the job.. how does this not come up as a red flag in the interview process?
which is why you don't hire someone from the west coast who prioritizes family over the job.. how does this not come up as a red flag in the interview process?
both were bad hires from a cultural standpoint. how they left differs, why they were both bad hires are similar..
I've got a question about the Dixon Stallings "debacle"??? Would Dixon record be any better this season? Aside from possibly beating Duquesne I'm not entirely convinced at all.
Dixon was never a strong recruiter and left while the leaving was good. While some may or may not like the Stallings hire, the cupboard was all but bare.
Not sure I'd call it the Dixon/Stallings debacle because it characterizes the situation as a Dixon vs Stallings one.. It is more the basketball coach debacle. I don't have a problem with Jamie leaving and don't blame Barnes for it. And I don't harbor any ill will towards Stallings, who seems like a likeable, decent guy. But Barnes set this hire up with a lot of fanfare. Here is his quote on this:
“This (hiring) is an opportunity to revitalize the fan base. What ways can we move that needle? I think we've seen that in football (with the hiring of Pat Narduzzi). I promise you we'll see that in basketball.”
Does that sound like what we got? Earlier, I posted that there are a lot of good things that Barnes did. But the hiring of the men's basketball coach isn't one of them.
I think that goes back to what Howland said, you can't win at Pitt long term. He realized it and bailed as soon as a better offer came. Jamie tried to stick around but in spite of making the tourney at a very high rate, was becoming hated here, and he knew that the vultures were swarming. Narduzzi, if he has any success, will be gone too. Prime Rib taste on a cat food budget. No competent coach, or AD, would venture to put up with that for too long.
I agree with this, best case of "over promise and under deliver" I've seen in a long time.. not a great strategy..
Two years?
Thirty five years of incompetence isn't erased or forgotten with a couple of 8-4s. Us Pitt grads on the board will live and die with the Panthers through thick and thin, but casual football fans aren't going to pack Heinz unless the particular game itself is a big event, or until Pitt is competing for titles.
Pittsburgh isn't a good "pure" sports town. It's a front runners city. That sucks, but that's also reality, and it has been so long since Pitt has been a front runner many if not most potential ticket buyers probably don't even have a memory of it.
I love how your response is "we will now go cheap". Didn't know you were in the inside circle of hiring and salaries. Comparing this to the Pirates may make you feel you are in the know and right but it is apples to oranges, but the again I am not as jaded as some with the glass half empty syndrome.
No wonder from the outside understands what a half baked fan base we have. 30K rabid fans. then nothing.
Why Barnes left should be immaterial. I hope his family is OK and all ... but he proved a disaster with the Stallings hire, and that alone makes it a blessing that he's saving us the trouble of what appeared inevitable anyway.
Perhaps Stallings will follow the lead and go on his own at season's ends if the season spirals poorly. Which also seems inevitable, particularly if they let another home win escape tonight, which I doubt they'd recover from.
I don't particularly relish this to happen, only because Pitt's track record of replacement is so poor (and I'm well aware that yet another coach bailing out won't make replacement easier). I sincerely hope Stallings can somehow motivate this dubious crew to shock the world over the next couple months.
But another flailing shot at a wildcard coach right away sounds far better than the 3 year dry heave we were likely looking at with Stallings, especially if Barnes remained.
As far as football goes, that's almost a losing battle for any AD. The scope is just so huge with football, and the investment needed so great. Look at what LSU just threw at a bunch of coaches who frankly don't have impeccable long term track records. How can Pitt compete? Basketball though, is a different story.
Perhaps Stallings will follow the lead and go on his own at season's ends if the season spirals poorly. Which also seems inevitable, particularly if they let another home win escape tonight, which I doubt they'd recover from.
I don't particularly relish this to happen, only because Pitt's track record of replacement is so poor (and I'm well aware that yet another coach bailing out won't make replacement easier). I sincerely hope Stallings can somehow motivate this dubious crew to shock the world over the next couple months.
But another flailing shot at a wildcard coach right away sounds far better than the 3 year dry heave we were likely looking at with Stallings, especially if Barnes remained.
As far as football goes, that's almost a losing battle for any AD. The scope is just so huge with football, and the investment needed so great. Look at what LSU just threw at a bunch of coaches who frankly don't have impeccable long term track records. How can Pitt compete? Basketball though, is a different story.
which is why you don't hire someone from the west coast who prioritizes family over the job.. how does this not come up as a red flag in the interview process?
both were bad hires from a cultural standpoint. how they left differs, why they were both bad hires are similar..[/QUOTE]
Was Johnny Majors a bad cultural fit? A southern boy from assbackward Iowa State. Only stuck around for a few years and then went home. What a shitty hire that was.
Ben Howland...another shitty hire. Another cultural misfit who was a short timer.
I guess the only people who should ever be considered for any Pitt position should have been born and raised in Pittsburgh. Hell...Oakland only. Maybe never left the general vicinity of Magee. Maybe the manager of Panera can be the AD...but only if he/she never left 15213.
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Was Johnny Majors a bad cultural fit? A southern boy from assbackward Iowa State. Only stuck around for a few years and then went home. What a shitty hire that was.
Ben Howland...another shitty hire. Another cultural misfit who was a short timer.
I guess the only people who should ever be considered for any Pitt position should have been born and raised in Pittsburgh. Hell...Oakland only. Maybe never left the general vicinity of Magee. Maybe the manager of Panera can be the AD...but only if he/she never left 15213.[/QUOTE]
who said anything about majors or howland. ironically both did leave though due to the culture but at least they built something successful before they left. Don't have to limit it to Oakland, just maybe someone that won't go back home when their 83 year old mother gets older..
Was Johnny Majors a bad cultural fit? A southern boy from assbackward Iowa State. Only stuck around for a few years and then went home. What a shitty hire that was.
Ben Howland...another shitty hire. Another cultural misfit who was a short timer.
I guess the only people who should ever be considered for any Pitt position should have been born and raised in Pittsburgh. Hell...Oakland only. Maybe never left the general vicinity of Magee. Maybe the manager of Panera can be the AD...but only if he/she never left 15213.[/QUOTE]
who said anything about majors or howland. ironically both did leave though due to the culture but at least they built something successful before they left. Don't have to limit it to Oakland, just maybe someone that won't go back home when their 83 year old mother gets older..
Yep, and Howland left Pitt and got fired from his perfect job.
Perfect!!!!
HAIL TO PITT!!!!
Was Johnny Majors a bad cultural fit? A southern boy from assbackward Iowa State. Only stuck around for a few years and then went home. What a shitty hire that was.
Ben Howland...another shitty hire. Another cultural misfit who was a short timer.
I guess the only people who should ever be considered for any Pitt position should have been born and raised in Pittsburgh. Hell...Oakland only. Maybe never left the general vicinity of Magee. Maybe the manager of Panera can be the AD...but only if he/she never left 15213.[/QUOTE]
who said anything about majors or howland. ironically both did leave though due to the culture but at least they built something successful before they left. Don't have to limit it to Oakland, just maybe someone that won't go back home when their 83 year old mother gets older..[/QUOTE]
This view of the world makes myopic thinking seem grand. It's a pinhole view of the world. And it's part of the provincial thinking that holds Pitt athletics back.
But I'm sure it makes you feel better to take a shot at an 83 year old woman. Good on you friend.
Stallings is a bad hire , you know this because you are an idiot? Damn, want to scream at Pitt fans to give every coach 8 years but want Stallings gone before his first class. You are the fan that needs to go away , and those that think like you. Get the Dixon jizz off your chin as well
This is to anyone this post offends , cause it is the truth. If it doesn't offend you well then the post isn't about you
This is to anyone this post offends , cause it is the truth. If it doesn't offend you well then the post isn't about you
who said anything about majors or howland. ironically both did leave though due to the culture but at least they built something successful before they left. Don't have to limit it to Oakland, just maybe someone that won't go back home when their 83 year old mother gets older..[/QUOTE]
This view of the world makes myopic thinking seem grand. It's a pinhole view of the world. And it's part of the provincial thinking that holds Pitt athletics back.
But I'm sure it makes you feel better to take a shot at an 83 year old woman. Good on you friend.[/QUOTE]
you and I are doing something weird with our quotes..
I don't care about 30 years... many of the people not going or bailing aren't even 30 years old.... it's an excuse... plain and simple....I agree on the front runner town mentality... in fact that's exactly what I'm saying.... Pgh needs to stop the whiny " ohhh Pitt lost a game or three I ain't going" crap...
In this business, if you weren't willing to outbid LSU, it's going cheap.
Would we be willing to open up the checkbook to poach an OC that Narduzzi covets? I'm not so sure.
So, we should use that 1 million to get a top 10 OC, the money is there and we need to continue to build. When you pay cheap , and the guy is looking to leave , it's too late at that point , should have paid him before. This business, especially big time football, you have to pay up front , the Pitt way of earning a raise is OLD and OUTDATED. Even the Hillbillies get this
Once we all realized, even me , he was going to be a great hire for us, should have brought him in, before teams were sniffing around , and offered him a new deal, that's how it works today outside of the bubble at Pitt
Once we all realized, even me , he was going to be a great hire for us, should have brought him in, before teams were sniffing around , and offered him a new deal, that's how it works today outside of the bubble at Pitt
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3 Straight Final Fours. He landed on his feet and still draws a pretty good paycheck.
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And he is recruiting like a gang buster , he will win again , next year will be a big jump for that program
And he is recruiting like a gang buster , he will win again , next year will be a big jump for that program
Fired from his perfect job!!!!
Fired from his perfect job!!!!!
Fired from his perfect job!!!!
Perfect!!!!
HAIL TO PITT!!!!
Not sorry Barnes is leaving.
Jamie is 12-2 at TCU including an 86-80 loss to Kansas.
Barnes you should not have lowered Jamie's buyout to let him leave for TCU. Pitt could have used the $$$$$ for our new OC in football.
Hoping Stallings gets Pitt into the Big Dance this year (Jamie did it 11 of 13 times as HC).
HAIL TO PITT!!!!
Jamie is 12-2 at TCU including an 86-80 loss to Kansas.
Barnes you should not have lowered Jamie's buyout to let him leave for TCU. Pitt could have used the $$$$$ for our new OC in football.
Hoping Stallings gets Pitt into the Big Dance this year (Jamie did it 11 of 13 times as HC).
HAIL TO PITT!!!!
Jaimie had to go, he was doing NOTHING here but going in reverse! If you can't see that or don't want to see that , then go follow TCU, he is beating cupcakes there as well, and losing to the good teams. Pads his record , but in reality, accomplished nothing at Pitt for 5 years and counting
You got that from the single mention that says she was a "former basketball player at Utah State is dealing with a medical issue" in the same sentence that mentions an 83 year old woman getting older? Oh, it also fails to mention she lives in Pittsburgh and attends Pitt, not Utah State and not Spokane CC.
Did you "actually read the article"?
Here it is... "another home win escape tonight".... never mind they are playing Virginia..... it's just another home win if it happens.... Jesus Christ
Will follow Pitt football and basketball.
However, I don't want to hear any EXCUSES from Jamie detractors if Pitt does not go to the Dance in the next 3 years.
Expecting a trip to the Dance this year as a minimum.
Hope Stallings delivers.
NO EXCUSES!!!!
HAIL TO PITT!!!!
You are crazy , this team is a bubble team at best , the freshman including the great PG, are avg players for their classes. I want to give him a few classes before I run him out, isn't that fair ? Hell, we have Dixon 5 years and got nothing since we joined the ACC
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Why can't we root for the coaches we have at Pitt right now , I want Duzz and Stallings to both win big here , guess yinzers can't comprehend
