You realize everyone disagrees with you, right? All the bracketologists you follow. Everyone who knows anything. But you are wrong about everything so no big deal.
Bid stealer thread
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SMF - Iāll make sure Jeff knows that the message board geniuses on here have Charleston not only in, but a 100% lock. We should also tell Pat Kelsey so he can rest his kids for next week.
Yea looking at some updated bracketology from tonight after some of these results everybody still has Pitt solidly in the tournament somewhere between the 9-11 lines. Palm and Decourcy have them in as 9 seeds, the field of 68 website and Twitter which has been a good source has Pitt as a 10. Wes Durham who is the voice of the ACC Network thinks itās a joke that Pitt is still on the bubble. And Joe Lunardi has them in as an 11 right now as the last 4 byes as he is the only one that has them even close to missing right now.
Iām with some people on here when saying you wanna root for Charleston to beat UNC Wilmington and root for Oral Roberts over North Dakota State tomorrow. I donāt know if the committee takes a team like Charleston or ORU over Pitt if they donāt win tomorrow night but Iād still rather not leave it to chance. Another conference that worries me is C-USA and a team like North Texas or UAB stealing a bid from Florida Atlantic and FAU still getting in with their 15 NET Ranking. I think if Pitt wins Wednesday against FSU or GT and gives Duke a good game on Thursday they are solidly in no matter what happens anywhere else.
Iām with some people on here when saying you wanna root for Charleston to beat UNC Wilmington and root for Oral Roberts over North Dakota State tomorrow. I donāt know if the committee takes a team like Charleston or ORU over Pitt if they donāt win tomorrow night but Iād still rather not leave it to chance. Another conference that worries me is C-USA and a team like North Texas or UAB stealing a bid from Florida Atlantic and FAU still getting in with their 15 NET Ranking. I think if Pitt wins Wednesday against FSU or GT and gives Duke a good game on Thursday they are solidly in no matter what happens anywhere else.
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It didn't happen, but if St. Thomas had won, Oral Roberts could still have been the conference representative to the NCAAT if St. Thomas had gone all the way to win the conference tournament. In that case, the Summit League rules would send the highest seeded team, not the conference tourney runner-up as some conferences do.
Not close to "everybody". Over a quarter of the brackets on Bracketmatrix do not include PItt.
Well right now they are currently still in good shape I believe but that will quickly change for the worse on Wednesday if they donāt beat FSU or GT. I personally think thatās the only thing that keeps Pitt out at this point is a loss on Wednesday.
Yea, Kelsey might as well rest his guys because they are a š
No one will have Charleston in because their resume is terrible but they won 30 games and the committee will cite 11 road wins as their excuse to put them in. This is basically like welfare for mid-majors. No one will play them at their place so they cant get Q1/2s. So, go 30-4 and you're in. Root hard for CC and ORU tonight. We caught a break in that SDSU lost at home to NDSU. ORU should take care of NDSU
Iām not even sure Charleston is a lock for the NIT. Oral Roberts and Charleston are not both getting in lol too funny.
If a team get's 30 wins, it should be a lock, no matter what Quad they where winning in, At some point you need to stop the micromanaging. People would freak out if a 30-4 team was left out. It's bad enough that Pitt has beaten UNC twice, has a better overall record and a better conference record, yet they act like UNC has a better resume.
People will absolutely not freak out. People will freak out if a team (who didnāt even win their league) gets into the tournament because they have 30 wins (25 of which are really, really, really bad)
There has never been a 29 team left out. ORU has 29. Charleston has 30. At least 1 would get in, probably both. They arent going to put in friggin 18-14 Wisconsin for Big Ten team #10 and leave those teams out. Its welfare, like I said.
If you beat the equivalent of Robert Morris 30 times, you don't deserve to be in. If they win their conference tourney, they deserve a spot.... otherwise they do not.
Deserve? No they probably dont. But they won 30 games and that's enough for them to put them in.
I will bet you $100 that CoC doesn't get in if they lose their tourney.
I will bet you $500 that ORU doesn't get in if they lose their tourney.
Funny thing is I think Wisconsin and Charleston would be considered a pick em game and neither fan base would be likely to agree
āNeversā are made to be broken. You get that right? There was āneverā a team who got in with 14 losses as an at large until Arizona did. There was never a team with only 17 wins to make the field as an at large until Bama did a few years back.
The good thing is, after this year, we can say ā30 wins isnāt a lockā
You should bet him $50,000 on oral Roberts. They donāt even show up anywhere as even on the bubble.
Charleston - yea, I would hedge a little, but I would still doubt it. If Ok St, Az St, UNC, Penn St, Wisconsin, Michigan/Rutgers, all the Moutain West teams, Mississippi St. Letās say they ALL lost in their first conference gameā¦..well thenā¦maybe?
Yeah you do, there's 68 teams, you don't need a 10th B1G or a ninth SEC team, let some different leagues in, So many of you think even Pitt isn't a lock? I'm not going to feel sorry for 18-14 Wisconsin when they're telling me Pitt (21-10, 14-6 ACC) is on the bubble. I'd rather see what the team that beat RMU 30 times could do, that's more interesting, didn't ORU win a couple in the NCAAT last yearr?
Charleston made it interesting coming back from 7 late. Man, they aren't good though. Hadn't seen them play but I didn't realize they were Belmont (all white guys), not that there's anything wrong with that but I expected more like Miami and less Notre Dame. Speaking of which, no way they are better than ND. They would have gotten in though with a loss.
They wouldnāt have, but we will never know. But I left that tournament not impressed. They donāt really look to me like a team that has the pieces to pull a shocker. They havenāt played anyone all year, if you are a 5 seed youād much rather play them than Oral Roberts or Drake.
I was totally unimpressed. They dont do any one thing well, even for the level they play at. Its not like they are going to come in and go 14-30 from 3 vs the 5 seed. That's not their game.
I guess we will have a good idea if they would have made it if they are a 10 or an 11 seed. If they are seeded behind the Dayton teams they obviously wouldnāt have made it. So, we will know for (almost) sure.
Also, can you imagine being like a 5 seed and you get like Michigan or UNC, or another 5 seed getting College of Charleston.
I dont agree with that. I do agree that CC shouldn't have made it based on eye test or resume but had they lost tonight, I think the committee throws them in Dayton as a form of mid-major welfare. There is an unwritten rule that they have to award bids like this. So, yes, they would have gotten a better seed (but in Dayton) had they lost.
Speaking of UNC, they beat CC back in Nov when they were ranked #1.
No, weāll know. Iāll admit I was wrong if they are seeded better than the Dayton teams. And you are wrong if they arenāt. At least we will know for sure
There is no āunwritten ruleā like that.
You canāt site a single instance of them doing something like that.
Whatās funny is isnāt the complaint that the Committee never puts the mid major teams in? Not the other way around.
Wake (Net 91) vs Syracuse (Net 126)
Can this affect Pitt?
Doubt Wake can go on a run to move up to 75 which would make it a quad 1 instead of a quad 2 loss
Syracuse needs to stay above 135 to keep that quad 2 away victory.
Guess Im rooting for syracuse right now
Can this affect Pitt?
Doubt Wake can go on a run to move up to 75 which would make it a quad 1 instead of a quad 2 loss
Syracuse needs to stay above 135 to keep that quad 2 away victory.
Guess Im rooting for syracuse right now
We didnāt lose to wake. And it was at home so it wouldnāt make it a Q1 win.
Pitt wins today and the rest doesnāt matter.
Wake is also currently a Q3 win. Itād be great for them to get up to a Q2, but I think theyād need to win today and tomorrow for that to happen.
