Big 10 Big 2 vs. ACC Big 2

[joeydavid]

Nebraska is and will be middling football program going forward. Fortunately for them, they play is division that is littered with MAC quality football programs. The dissension they are currently in will result in another Indiana-like football program for the B1G. They already get smoked by every good program they face.

Don't consider ups a blue blood in anything. mich, oshio state andto a lesser extent neb.
The only thing ups is a blue blood in is pedophiles! They lead the nation is pedophile coaches
and professor emeritus status for the coach!

 

[Nittany1997]

Yes, the new 2017 us news and world report Pitt is 47 penn state is 53

http://www.usnews.com/education/best-global-universities/rankings?page=7

Nope, in the national rankings for 2017 PSU is 50 and Pitt is 68. I see what you did wrong. You searched the global universities, not sure what that list is, but I stopped reading it when Michigan State was ahead of Brown.

 

[CrazyPaco]

Nope, in the national rankings for 2017 PSU is 50 and Pitt is 68. I see what you did wrong. You searched the global universities, not sure what that list is, but I stopped reading it when Michigan State was ahead of Brown.

Global rankings typically take into account more quantitative measures like research citations and publication output. Undergrad education is hard enough to standardize into a ranking methodology domestically, let alone across borders. Brown is not a huge research engine.

With any ranking, you have to actually look at the methodology to understand it.

 

[rojo36]

Michigan is the most notorious chokers of all time in any sport ever. They have the most wins in history, and one split championship. They always, and I mean always, find a way to lose a game to blow their championship hopes.

Check your football history for Michigan national championships-it is more than one. You would think Pitt won their bowl game to see all the chest pounding here. Yeah, I know, Michigan didn't win theirs either but they had two big injury problems in their game. Not to mention a home town crowd type crowd for FL ST. Pitt was in NYC.

 

[Pantherwalk]

Check your football history for Michigan national championships-it is more than one. You would think Pitt won their bowl game to see all the chest pounding here. Yeah, I know, Michigan didn't win theirs either but they had two big injury problems in their game. Not to mention a home town crowd type crowd for FL ST. Pitt was in NYC.

How many injuries did Pitt have in their game vs. Northwestern? As far as home field advantage, this tune is sounding like very sour grapes from B10 teams.

 

[Pittx9]

Check your football history for Michigan national championships-it is more than one. You would think Pitt won their bowl game to see all the chest pounding here. Yeah, I know, Michigan didn't win theirs either but they had two big injury problems in their game. Not to mention a home town crowd type crowd for FL ST. Pitt was in NYC.

Well they still choke away more championship chances than any team there is. But, there was the '97 split championship, I forgot about the '48 ap championship as well. Most of their other ones are not really recognized other than by the school itself. I mean I'm definitely mistaken, and you are correct. But in modern years they almost always finish just short is all I was saying.

 

[Pitt4Life34]

The emergence of Clemson as a national power definitely helps the prestige of the ACC, but it remains to be seen if that lasts once Watson leaves for the NFL (see Oregon and Miami). At the end of the day the ACC still only has one blue blood football program in FSU. If FSU leaves the conference is done.

The Big Ten on the other hand has four blue bloods (PSU, OSU, UM, NEB) and a bunch of other top end programs (Wisconsin, Iowa, Michigan State)

Did the ACC have a good year in 2016? Sure, but at the end of the day the Big Ten and SEC will always be on the top of the CFB food chain.

The Pinstripe Bowl is a great example. Pitt was arguably the third best team in the ACC this season and couldn't get past a 6-6 Northwestern team (although we were better than our record indicated). Imagine if you played Wisconsin, Iowa, or Minnesota.

Dude congrats on delivering the single dumbest post I've read since I joined in 2002. This is so juicy I'm not sure which side of the steak I want to start with. Start with Blue Bloods. PSU is not acknowledged as a BB by literally anyone outside of their cult or the Big10 pride guy that has no life rooting for a crap program. Which one are you? Oh NU! Sure you are! You want some fun? Go to Main Board and start a thread claiming PSU as a BB. I've seen the abuse that follows? Nebraska lost their claim as a BB when they went to the Big10 and hired Steve Pederson. If FSU leaves the ACC? Dummy, do you know what a GOR contract is? Do some research! Big10 top of the food chain? Aahahaha!!! If you say it's true it must be true that absolutely no one looks at ACC as a major player right? Some minor Bowl game in NY that half the kids have no interest in is a great example of what? Pitt arguably the 3rd best team in ACC? For a Northwestern guy you are a moron. Pitt doesn't have to imagine playing Big10 opponents. Pitt bullied Conference Champ Penn State over the field like they were a DII team. Ran and ran and ran and ran and well you know. Ironically Pitt played Big10 football and stuffed the ball down their throats. So I'm assuming you are a really bad PSU troll that doesn't have the juice to post legit stuff. You're a fan geek hiding behind your screen. Thanks for letting me have some fun and always remember that Joe Knew everything.

 

[Pitt4Life34]

I always hear about the diploma thing from Delpanther. If you get a degree from a branch campus isn't a PSU degree still ranked higher than Pitt according to US News and World Report?

Somehow someway no!!! I'll find a ranking that has Pitt ahead of PSU.

 

[Pitt4Life34]

Are you sure? I just checked and PSU was #50 and Pitt was #68?
http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities

I bet you love pissing contest. You must come from a large family.

 

[Pitt4Life34]

Who cares about national championships? It's about prestige and Penn St, Ohio State, Michigan, Wisconsin, Nebraska, and Iowa are big time football programs. Michigan State is pretty strong as well.

Outside of Florida State, Clemson, Virginia Tech, and Miami every other school in that conference is more known for basketball than football. How is it even an argument at this point that the Big Ten is a better football conference than the ACC after Maryland left the ACC to join the Big Ten? They didn't do it for Basektball that's for sure.

Who cares about national championships? It's about prestige and Penn St, Ohio State, Michigan, Wisconsin, Nebraska, and Iowa are big time football programs. Michigan State is pretty strong as well.

Outside of Florida State, Clemson, Virginia Tech, and Miami every other school in that conference is more known for basketball than football. How is it even an argument at this point that the Big Ten is a better football conference than the ACC after Maryland left the ACC to join the Big Ten? They didn't do it for Basektball that's for sure.

Man you aren't very good at the troll thing

 

[Gladeskat]

As for the bowl game, count your blessings you caught Pitt on a bad day and saw our best three players knocked out down the stretch. Lets not pretend we don't beat you guys 7 times if we play 10. Different outcome if our senior QB isn't taken out on a dirty play.

Look who's pretending! Pitt only gets one chance. They played crappy and lost. Stop the whining and excuse making and live with it.

 

[Gladeskat]

Well they still choke away more championship chances than any team there is. But, there was the '97 split championship, I forgot about the '48 ap championship as well. Most of their other ones are not really recognized other than by the school itself. I mean I'm definitely mistaken, and you are correct. But in modern years they almost always finish just short is all I was saying.

LOL! Look who's talking! The team which claims all kinds of mysterious championships from before WWII. And yes, I do remember 1976. The last time Pitt had any chance to win a championship of any kind, they choked to powerhouse Cincinnati.

Look, I realize Pitt fans are bitter because the B10 viewed Pitt, with their rent-a-stadium half full of fans, as inferior to Ped State, but don't take it out on B10 fans.

 

[joeydavid]

Serious question- why would anyone think that Pitt cares about being in the B1G while they sit currently in the best basketball and football conference?

It's not all about couple of extra TV dollars.

LOL! Look who's talking! The team which claims all kinds of mysterious championships from before WWII. And yes, I do remember 1976. The last time Pitt had any chance to win a championship of any kind, they choked to powerhouse Cincinnati.

Look, I realize Pitt fans are bitter because the B10 viewed Pitt, with their rent-a-stadium half full of fans, as inferior to Ped State, but don't take it out on B10 fans.

 

[Nittany1997]

Global rankings typically take into account more quantitative measures like research citations and publication output. Undergrad education is hard enough to standardize into a ranking methodology domestically, let alone across borders. Brown is not a huge research engine.

With any ranking, you have to actually look at the methodology to understand it.

I will just stick to the national rankings and you go global. Good luck competing with the University of Peking, they are an academic juggernaut!

 

[Pittx9]

LOL! Look who's talking! The team which claims all kinds of mysterious championships from before WWII. And yes, I do remember 1976. The last time Pitt had any chance to win a championship of any kind, they choked to powerhouse Cincinnati.

Look, I realize Pitt fans are bitter because the B10 viewed Pitt, with their rent-a-stadium half full of fans, as inferior to Ped State, but don't take it out on B10 fans.

A) actually look at the selectors from the championships, Pitt's are Actually recognized by legit selectors. B) what are you even talking about? Nobody is bitter at all or taking anything out. I was just talking about Michigan, who has a lot of great teams, that fall short all the time. I'll be the first to admit, Pitt doesn't even get that close.

 

[ncyajleel]

I think people don't realize Pitt was the 7th best team in the ACC, Northwestern was the 8th best in the BIG.

Pitt arguably the 3rd best team in ACC?

 

[Pitt4Life34]

I think people don't realize Pitt was the 7th best team in the ACC, Northwestern was the 8th best in the BIG.

I know! Some people don't realize or accept that. Our potential for a much better year was there where NW finished where they belonged but we still only finished 7TH.

 

[Malachi Constant]

How is it even an argument at this point that the Big Ten is a better football conference than the ACC after Maryland left the ACC to join the Big Ten? They didn't do it for Basektball that's for sure.

They didn't do it for football, that's for sure. They did it to bail out their massive athletic department debt.

 

[ncyajleel]

Now THAT is saying something!

Dude congrats on delivering the single dumbest post I've read since I joined in 2002.

 

[Pitt4Life34]

Now THAT is saying something!

LOL!

 

[BigNUFan51]

Dude congrats on delivering the single dumbest post I've read since I joined in 2002. This is so juicy I'm not sure which side of the steak I want to start with. Start with Blue Bloods. PSU is not acknowledged as a BB by literally anyone outside of their cult or the Big10 pride guy that has no life rooting for a crap program. Which one are you? Oh NU! Sure you are! You want some fun? Go to Main Board and start a thread claiming PSU as a BB. I've seen the abuse that follows? Nebraska lost their claim as a BB when they went to the Big10 and hired Steve Pederson. If FSU leaves the ACC? Dummy, do you know what a GOR contract is? Do some research! Big10 top of the food chain? Aahahaha!!! If you say it's true it must be true that absolutely no one looks at ACC as a major player right? Some minor Bowl game in NY that half the kids have no interest in is a great example of what? Pitt arguably the 3rd best team in ACC? For a Northwestern guy you are a moron. Pitt doesn't have to imagine playing Big10 opponents. Pitt bullied Conference Champ Penn State over the field like they were a DII team. Ran and ran and ran and ran and well you know. Ironically Pitt played Big10 football and stuffed the ball down their throats. So I'm assuming you are a really bad PSU troll that doesn't have the juice to post legit stuff. You're a fan geek hiding behind your screen. Thanks for letting me have some fun and always remember that Joe Knew everything.

I never thought that referring to a CFB as a "blue blood" would cause so much drama. Admittley it is subjective, but my definition of a blue blood is a program that has a great history, tremendous fan base, and ample resources. PSU checks those boxes, and I am in no way a PSU supporter. To define "blue blood" strictly based on on the field success is irrational. By that logic Texas is not a blue blood because they have been down the past five years.

Virginia Tech is a good program, but outside of the Michael Vick years there isn't a lot there.

Miami was a blue blood, but their fan base is putrid and facilties and resources have really lagged behind other Florida schools. I also feel the emergence of USF, UCF, and FAU have really hurt their recruiting.

Clemson has the chance to become a blue blood, but much like Virginia Tech with Vick and Oregon with Mariota they need to prove that they can maintain that level success once their star leaves.

As for Pitt; great job beating Penn St early in the year, but that really does mean nothing. PSU is on top of the CFB world right now after their bowl performances and will be hyped up next year as a National Title Contender (and rightfully so). What happened in Week 2 is irrelevant. It's frustrating I know (Northwestern beat Stanford last year in Wk 1 and got no credit), but CFB is a what have you done lately sport.

 

[9nationalchampionships]

Ped st has all of Pennsyltucky sowed up so they have every cracker in the central part of the state drinking from the cult trough. Having a lot of brain dead cultists doesn't check any positive box. Ped st is not a BB

 

[daminals76]

The emergence of Clemson as a national power definitely helps the prestige of the ACC, but it remains to be seen if that lasts once Watson leaves for the NFL (see Oregon and Miami). At the end of the day the ACC still only has one blue blood football program in FSU. If FSU leaves the conference is done.

The Big Ten on the other hand has four blue bloods (PSU, OSU, UM, NEB) and a bunch of other top end programs (Wisconsin, Iowa, Michigan State)

Did the ACC have a good year in 2016? Sure, but at the end of the day the Big Ten and SEC will always be on the top of the CFB food chain.

The Pinstripe Bowl is a great example. Pitt was arguably the third best team in the ACC this season and couldn't get past a 6-6 Northwestern team (although we were better than our record indicated). Imagine if you played Wisconsin, Iowa, or Minnesota.

Lol this is about as delusional as it gets...

"Imagine if you played Minnesota"??? Lol
Good god, we already beat the B1G champions ass...

 

[joeydavid]

The "drama" is solely directed at you and your colossal lack of knowledge. How many people need to point out how moronic your statements are until you go back to whatever basement you spend your days in.

Here's one more- you have to be dumbest poster to ever visit this message board.

I never thought that referring to a CFB as a "blue blood" would cause so much drama. Admittley it is subjective, but my definition of a blue blood is a program that has a great history, tremendous fan base, and ample resources. PSU checks those boxes, and I am in no way a PSU supporter. To define "blue blood" strictly based on on the field success is irrational. By that logic Texas is not a blue blood because they have been down the past five years.

Virginia Tech is a good program, but outside of the Michael Vick years there isn't a lot there.

Miami was a blue blood, but their fan base is putrid and facilties and resources have really lagged behind other Florida schools. I also feel the emergence of USF, UCF, and FAU have really hurt their recruiting.

Clemson has the chance to become a blue blood, but much like Virginia Tech with Vick and Oregon with Mariota they need to prove that they can maintain that level success once their star leaves.

As for Pitt; great job beating Penn St early in the year, but that really does mean nothing. PSU is on top of the CFB world right now after their bowl performances and will be hyped up next year as a National Title Contender (and rightfully so). What happened in Week 2 is irrelevant. It's frustrating I know (Northwestern beat Stanford last year in Wk 1 and got no credit), but CFB is a what have you done lately sport.

 

[steel_curtain]

Lol this is about as delusional as it gets...

"Imagine if you played Minnesota"??? Lol
Good god, we already beat the B1G champions ass...

-In the last 6 years Clemson has beaten Auburn 3 times, Ohio State 2 times, Florida State 3 times, Georgia, Oklahoma 2 times, Notre Dame, every team in the Entire ACC multiple times, played in 2 National Title games, and won multiple ACC Championships. And to sugar coat it, they completely blew out Ohio State twice, Oklahoma twice, Georgia, and LSU. They also have beaten 10 teams ranked in the Top 10 during this time frame from every major conference except the Pac-12 by at least 10 points, blowing out most of them. They also beat Miami 59-0 on the road, Miami's worst loss ever at home. Clemson is a powerhouse, the end.

 

[steel_curtain]

The "drama" is solely directed at you and your colossal lack of knowledge. How many people need to point out how moronic your statements are until you go back to whatever basement you spend your days in.

Here's one more- you have to be dumbest poster to ever visit this message board.

-Miami also has National Titles in the 80s, 90s, and the 2000;s, debunking the theory they are some 3 year wonder. They are the only program to win National Titles those 3 decades in a row.